Thursday, May 29, 2008

There's No Place Like Home (Part 2) - Season 4, Episode 13


Set your Tivo or DVR. Get some snacks and a cold drink. Find a comfortable spot in front of your television and turn to ABC. Then close your eyes and tap your heels together three times. And think to yourself, 'There's no place like home'.

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2costa said...

what thingy capcom?

memphish said...

3 hours seems so daunting. I hope we all survive. :-) Got the Kleenex ready

Ange said...

HI! Posting for emails and I'm just wicked excited, spoiler free, and curious about the "thingee" Capcom saw a picture of but not enough to want to know what it is.

Happy Lost Finale Day!

Capcom said...

It was a prop thingy in the grass (probably not its actual place in the show if real), in a spoiler pic last summer, that was included with spoiler pix of the Tempest that we now know about. Back then, it was speculated to be just a joke put out for set-spies, but maybe not. If real, it might have something to do with Mr.Fourtoes. I just happened to realize today, that we've seen the Tempest, but not that other prop yet.

Capcom said...

Did anyone notice any extra scenes or script yet?

Darkaardvark said...

I think I missed the press conference scene... I just got home... was it expanded?

Passafist said...

There was a least one addition during the press conference, Jack actually names, names!

Boone, Charlie, and Libby Survived the Crash, but died, according to the "Official Story"

Darkaardvark said...

At the risk of reading too much into what's already confirmed as generally unimportant by TPTB (I think?):

Boone, Charlie, Libby are the characters who 'appear' quite often... Boone to Locke on island, the others in flashforwards...

Just a thought. *shrug*

memphish said...

Sayid also said there was nothing for him to return to in Iraq and Jack hadn't made any plans for his return. I'd say this is canon because Darlton is the one who alerted everyone to it in the OLP.

memphish said...

I saw another error in the pop-ups too Ded, but now I can't remember what it was.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Oh, capcom - I know what thingy you're talking about! Yeah, what the heck?

Melissa_Lossa said...

I never realized, until I saw the pop-ups today, that we know nothing about Sayid's family. Have they ever been mentioned?

Melissa_Lossa said...

I think it's very interesting that Boone, Charlie and Libby were named as the other three survivors. I wonder why they picked those three?

DeDJeZTeR said...

Ah ha... I found you... no one said new post...lol

Capcom said...

Cool Melissa! :-D I hope that it wasn't a fooler thingy.

Passafist said...

BTW the best line in this episode is "Jesus Christ is not a Weapon"

Capcom said...

Yeah, that's the second time in a row Ded, I got fooled both times. :-D

DeDJeZTeR said...

Passafist... I agreed last week and I agree again now...

memphish said...

I hope they explain that 10 month thing. It makes no sense given the Kate timeline and Aaron's size, not to mention the wait.

memphish said...

ML Sayid's father being a war hero was mentioned in a flashback, and that village that was gassed. I guess that's what ultimately happened to them.

Melissa_Lossa said...

memphish - Jack's mother also says that she's glad he's home as she's leaving the funeral, which would imply that this is relatively soon after he gets back. I tend to think that Matthew Fox misspoke when he said ten months.


capcom - it seems a rather extravagant "thingy" to make for a joke, doesn't it?

Melissa_Lossa said...

Thanks, memphish - I thought it was odd that they said in the pop-ups that his parents' whereabouts were "unknown."

DeDJeZTeR said...

You know last week when Ben gave himself up I thought to myself that it was weird... but I now realize... that is what Ben does, he gets caught... just like in season 2 with the Losties and the Hatch.

Darkaardvark said...

AWESOME, picking up from the S3 finale.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Was that Jeremy Bensum?

Darkaardvark said...

Uhm... the psychic, maybe? Grasping at straws here.

Darkaardvark said...

Bentham. As in the utilitarian advocate of the Panopticon.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Jeremy Bentham was the name in the obituary, right?

So who came to talk to them?

memphish said...

Kate almost backed over Jack. I hope that and the slap makes Lost2010 feel better.

Capcom said...

I thought so too Melissa, but some were saying that it might be left over from another movie set or something like that. I hope not.

Yes, awesome pickup in the opening scene.

DeDJeZTeR said...

So the obit was non canon, but right as well?... lol

Capcom said...

Yeah, that Bentham thing is weird because didn't TPTB say that we already met who was in the coffin?

Melissa_Lossa said...

I thought the obit was canon, but not the article on the opposite page - didn't people use that other article to pull a date for the paper?

Darkaardvark said...

I think Bentham is an alias. Maybe the psychic, or Ben, or someone.

Passafist said...

Jeremy Bentham (IPA: ['benθəm] or ['bentəm]) (15 February 1748–6 June 1832) was an English jurist, philosopher, and legal and social reformer. He was a political radical, and a leading theorist in Anglo-American philosophy of law. He is best known for his advocacy of utilitarianism, for the concept of animal rights,[1][2] and his opposition to the idea of natural rights, with his oft-quoted statement that the idea of such rights is "nonsense upon stilts."[3] He also influenced the development of welfarism.[4]

Capcom said...

Wow, we got our Keamy vs. Sayid smackdown!

Melissa_Lossa said...

David, you always have the answers! ;)

Passafist said...

More interesting facts about Bentham

As requested in his will, his body was preserved and stored in a wooden cabinet, termed his "Auto-icon". Originally kept by his disciple Dr. Southwood Smith,[11] it was acquired by University College London in 1850. The Auto-icon is kept on public display at the end of the South Cloisters in the main building of the College. For the 100th and 150th anniversaries of the college, the Auto-icon was brought to the meeting of the College Council, where he was listed as "present but not voting".[12] Tradition holds that if the council's vote on any motion is tied, the auto-icon always breaks the tie by voting in favour of the motion.

The Auto-icon has always had a wax head, as Bentham's head was badly damaged in the preservation process. The real head was displayed in the same case for many years, but became the target of repeated student pranks including being stolen on more than one occasion. It is now locked away securely.

memphish said...

Awesome sequence! I'd say at this point Bentham is Ben though I still hope not. It could be Alpert though. He's good at crazy not quite in Portland stories.

acewebguy said...

Wow...look at Big Walt

DeDJeZTeR said...

Wheres my MONEY?!?

Melissa_Lossa said...

OMG - Walt's like 20!

Darkaardvark said...

It's not an island.....it's a PENINSULA.

Ha.

Melissa_Lossa said...

LOL ded!!

pgtbeauregard said...

Oh Crap,

Did they kill Keamy. what about the bomb and his remote control tied to his pulse.

Hopefully there's enough time lapse.

Capcom said...

I loved the look on Kate's face when she went to cut Ben free....as if she couldn't believe what she was about to do.

Darkaardvark said...

OHGODITSMICHAELSBABY

acewebguy said...

The look on Hurley's face when Walt said "even my dad..." seemed to me that Hurley was hiding the truth about Mike's demise.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Get back here? Holy crap - could Charlotte be Annie?

DeDJeZTeR said...

What the hell was that with Charlotte?

DeDJeZTeR said...

Orientation time... yeah!

Melissa_Lossa said...

Is now REALLY the time to watch an orientation video? Ha, ha!

Darkaardvark said...

"Get back here? Holy crap - could Charlotte be Annie?"


Eenteresting...

Capcom said...

Oh, this is truly sweet juiciness! :-D

Melissa_Lossa said...

Time traveling bunnies is the best line so far!

Capcom said...

Dangitt, Locke fix the video!

Melissa_Lossa said...

dark - great minds think alike! :)

Capcom said...

Agree Melissa!

acewebguy said...

Could Keamy still be alive?

memphish said...

The new edited Orchid video!

How does Miles read people? Is Charlotte dead? :-)

Codysmom said...

Time travelling BUNNIES!!!!

Capcom said...

Could be that Keamy hasn't actually expired yet.

memphish said...

I'm starting to think life and death don't matter, no matter where you are.

Codysmom said...

capcom, have you seen the thingy yet? I don't know what it is:)

Codysmom said...

maybe the thing on Keamy measures his temp and he's not cold yet....

memphish said...

Gasp!

Capcom said...

Oh man, Ben is tooo much!

Olerica said...

Holy Crap - Ben is so cold.

Lost 2010 said...

I love Ben.

Codysmom said...

nope, heart-rate monitor

can you believe Ben... "So"?

Capcom said...

Nope, it's not been on the screen yet, at least not noticably, Codysmom! :-)

Darkaardvark said...

I don't want to inject politics into this...but does anyone else remember Dick Cheney's "So?" earlier this year? It reminded me a lot of that.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Keamy is in the process of bleeding out and his heart rate will slow gradually... I believe.

acewebguy said...

Could Locke quickly transfer it to his arm and measure his heart rate?

Capcom said...

Good thing Richard bought the boat some time by not thinking to aim for Keamy's head and not the armor.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Dang, that's harsh.

codysmom - no thingy yet!

I can't believe there's another hour to go. Sweet.

Darkaardvark said...

I thought about that, but it doesn't seem like it would work. I'm guessing the freighter folk disable it first.

Codysmom said...

that's what I was wondering, acewebguy

memphish said...

I think Michael keeps it cold while some get off then boom.

Melissa_Lossa said...

OMG - she IS Annie!!!

Codysmom said...

charlotte=ben's real daughter (with Annie?????)

memphish said...

Damn I love Sawyer!

Capcom said...

And Ben doesn't know, and he shot her not knowing?

Darkaardvark said...

Closed captioned shows Sawyer's whispering as indistinct. I assume whatever he said is the stuff that Kate was doing when Jack found hero n the phone?

Capcom said...

Yeah.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Oh, Sawyer! I had a feeling he was going to sacrifice himself somehow.

Here's a question, though - Jack was sitting right there when Kate made her promise to Sawyer. Why did he give her such a hard time about it? Obviously he knew that she had promised Sawyer she would do something right before he jumped out of a friggin' helicopter to save all of them!

memphish said...

I'm guessing Charlotte's the previous generation's Ji Yeon. Mom had to leave so she'd be born, or she could be a raised by another like Aaron.

Dan knows the Island's about to disappear.

Codysmom said...

good question, melissa

Sawyer rocks!!!!!

DeDJeZTeR said...

I think Jack is crazed by the act of her promise because anything she does that might involve another survivor will destroy the lie if traced back... just a guess though.

Lost 2010 said...

Whispering together conspiratorially. . . 2 pts to memphish

memphish said...

Jack's just an insecure jerk whose too chicken to kiss a girl like that.

memphish said...

Sayid killed Bentham!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Checkmate indeed... lol

Darkaardvark said...

So who're the odds on now? Bentham = Ben? Would Sayid kill him?

Codysmom said...

I didn't think Sayid killed Bentham... he just knows he's dead...

acewebguy said...

I think that Sayid telling Hurley that Bentham was dead meant that all bets were off and the O6 was now vulnerable and possibly in danger.

Darkaardvark said...

Also, nice acting by Yunjin Kim. That was a tough scene to play.

memphish said...

Hard to believe Sun blames only 2 people for Jin's death. And what the heck is up with Christian?

Melissa_Lossa said...

Chess with Mr. Eko - I love it.


Was Des on the chopper? I think he was. Jin better have gotten off the deck - Sun's screaming was awful.

DeDJeZTeR said...

What The F?

acewebguy said...

OMG...gotta TIVO GMA tomorrow morning

Codysmom said...

alternate endings on GMA tomorrow morning?

DeDJeZTeR said...

Sun, come to the dark side... lol

memphish said...

Good Lord please do not give us a Sawyer Juliet romance!

So does everyone on the Island think there is no O6?

acewebguy said...

wow...so the O6 can't get back to the island because Ben just moved it and the island folk think that they all died when the freighter blew up.

See...they still won't communicate with each other...lol

Melissa_Lossa said...

Man, I've actually felt kind of bad for Juliet over these last couple of episodes.

I'm so glad that we didn't have to wait to see if Sawyer was okay!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Memphish, Great question.

Maybe they will see the chopper and the woosh... island moves. So they know they are out there, but not where they are... hmmm?

Darkaardvark said...

Wait, yeah...Des isn't dead, right? Geez, so much stuff going on- can't believei missed that.

memphish said...

Dan and the zodiac are AWOL too.

Melissa_Lossa said...

So, did Christian mean that Michael had done what he needed to do and could die now?

Capcom said...

Friggin frozen donkey wheel.

memphish said...

Frozen donkey wheel!

acewebguy said...

Daniel is going to be lost at sea!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Sweeeeeeeeeet!!!

Capcom said...

Can't wait for the screencaps of all of this.

I thought that I saw the Thingy, but I think that it was just the frozen ladder.

Darkaardvark said...

"So, did Christian mean that Michael had done what he needed to do and could die now?"



Yes, I think so.


This episode rocks.

Melissa_Lossa said...

I can't believe there was an actual frozen donkey wheel!

So what happens to Daniel and the Zodiac?

Poor Ben - I wonder why Jacob decided to be such a bastard to him all of a sudden. Was it because Ben was getting out of control?

memphish said...

Wow! But where did the life vests and raft come from when they'd thrown everything overboard?

Melissa_Lossa said...

capcom - I thought so, too! This is killing me!

DeDJeZTeR said...

They loaded that stuff on while they were at the freighter.

Capcom said...

I can't believe that after Ben made me hate him for not caring aobut Keamy dying, M.E. almost made me cry for him when Ben was turning the wheel.

Codysmom said...

OMG!!!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Frank even screamed... someone grab that liferaft... or something to that effect.

Capcom said...

LOL Melissa!

Darkaardvark said...

Kate: Where's Jack?
Lapidus: Where is he?
Kate: Hurley, carry the baby.

That's what they were muttering when Jakc was underwater. Or something liike that.


Don't die, Desmond.

memphish said...

Please be Penny's boat!

Darkaardvark said...

Closed captioning says PORTUGESE!!!!!!!!

Darkaardvark said...

Well, I guess that could be surmised rather quickly, ha.


Awesome.

memphish said...

Yeah!

DeDJeZTeR said...

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Tear rolling... awwwwww

acewebguy said...

goosebump moment right there!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Thats why no mention of Desmond in the 06.

Capcom said...

Wowowowowowowowowow.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Okay, I'm crying! OMG, I can't believe that Des and Penny are back together. That is the best thing that ever happened on this show.

Mr. Bill said...

LOL! Frozen donky wheel!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Octagonglobalrecruiting.com

Darkaardvark said...

WTF was that some ARG stuff?

octagonglobalrecruiting.com

DeDJeZTeR said...

The new ARG starts now?

Darkaardvark said...

Caught it faster than me, Des...


site won't load, traffic heavy

acewebguy said...

cool...i am not the only one who thought that was weird!

The page won't load

http://octagonglobalrecruiting.com/

DeDJeZTeR said...

I think that site is going to crash soon... lol

Passafist said...

YEAH! New ARG!!!!

Can I host the podcast?

Darkaardvark said...

Anyone know if the dates in that ad line up with comicon or something?

DeDJeZTeR said...

I'm in and it is Dharma Initiative

Darkaardvark said...

I think they do.

memphish said...

ARG on?

Where's Bentham?

DeDJeZTeR said...

Yes I think it is Comic con.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Entered E-mail address... got this message

"A recruitment officer will contact you shortly.

Thanks and see you in San Diego!"

And so it begins.

memphish said...

Ben looks like a vampire.

memphish said...

Is it Christian?

acewebguy said...

jack, Sun = want to go back

Hurley, Kate, Aaron = do not want to go back

Sayid = ???

acewebguy said...

NOOOOOO!!!!!

Not Locke!

memphish said...

How did he get off the Island?

DeDJeZTeR said...

Locke... are you $#!tt!ng me?

experimentalfilm! said...

FOMG !!!! LOCKE !!!!!!!!!!

Melissa_Lossa said...

Locke?! What?!

experimentalfilm! said...

wait wait WAIIIT
was there an ARG commercial that i missed ????

memphish said...

All right. I'm tired of typing with my thumbs and need to attend to my family who let me watch 3 hours in peace. Talk at you all tomorrow.

Olerica said...

e-mail post


OMG!!!

Peter said...

http://octagonglobalrecruiting.com/
wouldnt accept my email..


Locke??

What about the zodiac?

Should be interesting...

Darkaardvark said...

So Locke tries to run the Others. Fails. Things go bad. He leaves the island- perhaps in the way that Ben did; he can't ever come back. He makes his plea to the 06(+Desmond?)? None of them listen to him, including probably Jack, at least when they first talked.

Locke is despondent. He kills himself? Or is he murdered?

Aaron has to go back too- But Claire doesn't want him to.

CJ said...

oh my god, oh my god, oh my god...my head just exploded!

acewebguy said...

http://octagonglobalrecruiting.com/

The commercial said they are "looking for volunteers to assist in a range of unpaid positions"

Teachers, Vets, Ex-Military, Nurses, Biologists, Engineers... to name a few

Looks like Alpert and crew are recruiting again...lol

Capcom said...

That sounds like a good theory place to start Dark. I kind of got a sinking feeling when Ben was turning everything over to him, I don't think he's ready to make command decisions yet...or ever.

acewebguy said...

peter...

put in your email...then click 'terms' and conditions' box to accept them

then a screen will pop-up saying a recruiter will contact you.


seems to have to be done in that order

Darkaardvark said...

Will Season 5 start in the 'future'? It seems like the events of Locke's mishaps might better be handled through flashbacks while we stay in the 'future'


For that matter, how could we TELL which one it is, if that's how it's handled?

Melissa_Lossa said...

So I wonder what Des and Penny are up to now.

And what about Dan and the Zodiac?

Capcom said...

I thought that they said "unpaid positions"! :-D

Melissa_Lossa said...

Okay, capcom - there was no thingy!

Are we sure the thingy wasn't the bones that were found in the desert?

Capcom said...

OK, so no Thingy! Here is what Melissa and I saw in the summer spoilers, but in case it is for Season 5, I will mark it like a spoiler and spell it backwards so no one sees it that doesn't want to:
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!senobruasonid
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Rats!

Darkaardvark said...

Melissa, can you give a link to whatever that was? I never saw it.

Capcom said...

LOL Melissa! :-D Well, it was kind of too big for that I think, but maybe.

Darkaardvark said...

Wasn't that in episode 401?

Capcom said...

I'll look for the pic of it tomorrow on DarkUFO, and post the link. Unfortunately, I didn't make a capture of it for my Lost files, phooey.

Codysmom said...

So, a new ARG? Starting now or in July (comicon)? I hope it's NOW!!! I'm signed up.... but took awhile to load the site.

Thrasher76 said...

Holy awesome episode!! I LOVE THIS SHOW!!!

Peace & Namaste until next season!

Maybe I wil check out some of these books or come up with some new theories...

Capcom said...

Weird, on the Octagon site, the Realplayer popup keeps coming up to say "download this video", like it does for regular vids and such.

Lost 2010 said...

Uhm, that raft they had on the chopper had to weigh at least 200 lbs, but I'm going to forgive that since I got to see Sawyer shirtless on the beach.

Capcom said...

Sooo, I clicked on it and it's downloading. Probably just the commercial.

Capcom said...

Yep, just the commercial.

minnesotawriter said...

NEW ARG YAY! Something to tide us over. So who's going to start a new site for it first lol.

Peter said...

Yea, i got it to work, it wouldnt work with my .edu account but did with a comcast one

Capcom said...

Yeah, and all you hackers and decoders start your engines too!

Peter said...

ps...

I really should have google the name during the show
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bentham

look at influences...

LostIt said...

Wow! My mind is blown!

I'm THRILLED to see Desmond and Penny together. I was so afraid he was going to die! I cried when they kissed.

I want to know what happened to Dan and the zodiac.

How did Locke get off the island and did he really commit suicide or did someone kill him?

What is Sun cooking up with Widmore? Is she setting him up for a fall?

If they all have to go back to the island, why did Claire tell Kate not to bring Aaron back? Are there two competing forces on the island - one that wants Aaron there and one that doesn't? Is Claire dead or not?

So many more questions and no answers until January!

Melissa_Lossa said...

Okay, I did some searching and found the photos of the "thingy" that capcom and I have been talking about:

Bones

Capcom said...

Heheh, now Locke's body is preserved and stored in a wooden cabinet, just like Bentham's.

Why was Kate so ticked off at Locke that she wouldn't go to the funeral parlor? I mean, more so than anyone would be burned at him for the doofy things that he did?

Good Qs Lostit. It does seem as if Locke had to take a turn at the frozen donkey wheel himself, but how he died we will have to talk about all summer, fall and part of winter!

Ellen said...

I am in shock. I would never have thought that it was Locke in the coffin. How did he get off the island? How did he die? OMG, so many questions...

Capcom said...

Awesome Melissa, thanks! See, they are kinda huge-ish. Do you think that could have been what the camera showed just the ends of in the frozen cave? It seems like if TPTB were going to use them, they would really USE them, like, to shock or surprise us.

Peter said...

In the commerical, when you see the guy by the corn, pause it, what is the weird blue thing standing infront of him, it looks photoshopped in.

Capcom said...

I don't knw what you mean Peter, where?

Melissa_Lossa said...

Yeah, capcom, they were bigger than I remembered - definitely not the polar bear. I guess they could have been in the caves, but they seem too elaborate for that - plus, these photos were taken this fall, and the finale wasn't even written until a month or so ago. Odd.

Ellen said...

email...
tried to submit my email at the Octagon site, but it won't do anything. The site is probably too busy tonight. Guess I'll try tomorrow. G'night everyone...dreaming of LOST tonight, I'm sure.
xxoo

Melissa_Lossa said...

Peter - I think that's a blue bandanna sticking out of his pocket. That's what it looks like to me, anyway. You're right, though - it does look a little odd.

Peter said...
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Peter said...

yup bandana, i retract my previous comment thanks melissa

Capcom said...

My email submission is still chugging away too Ellen. :-(

Darkaardvark said...

Marking my spot. Don't have a ton more to say....


I'll reiterate my earlier question- when do people think s5 will be 'set'? Starting with the Jack/Ben conversation or with the rafties?

LostIt said...

It looks like a bandanna stuffed in his pocket to me.

Capcom said...

I'm reeeeeeeeally intrigued for next season as to what Miles said to Charlotte! How he knew, etc.

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