Wednesday, March 07, 2007

ENTER 77 - SEASON 3, EPISODE 11












Locke, Sayid and Kate investigate a strange structure and its mysterious inhabitant - the man in the eye patch! Sawyer competes in a pingpong competition to get back his belongings.

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scoutpost said...

Wow! Am I first!? See ya'll after the show!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Wow! Am I Second!? See Ya'll after the show!

LOL

Keesh said...

What episode showed Mr. Eye Patch first?

Amused2bHere said...

Keesh, it was the last episode of the mini season, episode 6. Locke and company went to the Pearl Station to check out the monitors, and they were able to get one to work, and Patchy looked back into the camera.

Welcome to the Lost Community. I don't recognize your name. Newcomer, long time lurker?
We love to have you join in the camraderie.

memphish said...

Wow! Am I fourth? See y'all after the show.

Oh, I thought we were supposed to type that. JK Scoutpost and Dedjezter.

Keesh, I believe we saw Mr. Patchy in "The Cost of Living" in which Mr. Eko was tossed about like a rag doll in a tornado. Wizard of Oz reference? No the tornado never looked like a fist.

And now I really will see you probably during, but definitely after the show. First LOST in HD!

memphish said...

Oops, I was fifth, now sixth. And amused2behere, I still think it was episode 3.05.

Amused2bHere said...

Ah, I stand corrected. That's what I get for working with a foggy head, I should have looked it up. Thanks for the info, Memphish.

Thank God this virus only lasts 24 hrs, I should be human again by the morning. Bleh.

Thanks for all the prayers and well wishes.

See you tomorrow, all!

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FYSB said...

Dang! I was just Fenris-ed! That last post was mine. GoogleBlogger is out to get me.

FYSB said...

Let's try this one more time.

I love that the previews are calling Mr. Patchy a "face from the past". In island time, isn't only a week or so since he appeared on the monitor?

capcom said...

Heh-heh FYSB, now we have Ralphied and Fenrised! :o)

Dang, it is taking me some time to get used to the 10:00 time slot.....I keep looking at the clock and thinking, "OMG!!!!!!!! It's 9:30, I missing Lost!!!!!!!!"

About three heart attacks so far tonight. :-(

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JGZ350 said...

Good Evening Locos-

What is up? A tremendous Lost day to you-

Memphish, how are you?

Just wanted to say hello before the episode and will be here during and after the show.

I have been neck deep in work and have been in lurk mode, until now.

See you in a few-

FYSB said...

Deep breaths, Capcom! You've finally made it.

maven said...

Hey, FYSB! You're right. Time is different on the island. We have to remember what seems to us an eternity is probably just an hour on the island. Maybe is should be called LOST/24!

Hope someone's around after the west coast feed to talk. It'll probably take me forever to play catchup! If I don't see y'all "after the show", I'll be here tomorrow!

memphish said...

First impressions - I hate Sawyer's hair like that.

The sky turned purple, don't ask questions - guess that was for us.

Zorro and Hillbilly and the magazine was in the john.

Hey they gave us a time reference--it's been 2 days since Sawyer and Kate returned.

Did everyone catch the satellite dish? And that wasn't Kate's horse.

JGZ350 said...

I see Sawyer is in his usual form, calling P***o Zoro and that crack on Hugo about eating salads. Too funnie. Sayid has found the infamous 'Flame'. This looks like this is going to be a great eps.

memphish said...

OMG! That was awesome!

memphish said...

This episode is going to have us talking for a while. So much happened in that segment, I'm going to save it. All I can say is another OMG! Oh, and the names are really hard to understand in this episode.

FYSB said...

I guess "Paolo Goes to the John" is going to be an ongoing theme this season.

ExperimentalFilm said...

wowwwww nice epi so far ! i can dig it .

JGZ350 said...

yes memphish - I don't think this eps is going to be talked out by Sunday-

Keesh said...

More in game commercials please.

So, who is that last dharma guy?
I'm guessing agriculturalist.

ExperimentalFilm said...

wwttttttttffffff

Keesh said...

Ready to play- how very Wargames.

ExperimentalFilm said...

johns got some serious ADD issues in these hatches .

oh, and OH SNAP

FYSB said...

They took two cows....oh my, I think I know how Juliet made the cheeseburgers!

memphish said...

So he's Soviet, not French, but he's Ukranian, not Russian and he answered a newspaper ad to "Save the World" and "Do something good."

The people who say we don't get info. aren't going to have anything to complain about tonight.

JGZ350 said...

Yep that's what I thought about, War Games when Locke was playing chess. Wow, so much to take in at one time. Looks Sayid has been had by one of his torture victims.

memphish said...

I love how many time references we're getting. Mr. Patchy said he got there 11 years ago which makes 1993.

A war against the Hostiles that DI called a purge, but they completely lost except for Patchy?!?

The cat's name is Nadia -- is Patchy the smoke?

JGZ350 said...

Yes, plenty to discuss.

What is up memphish? Welcome to the club, how are you liking Lost in HD? It's too sweet, right?

ExperimentalFilm said...

oooo good observation fysb ! seriously lol .

now they really sold me when they said he was dharma .. i thought that was pretty believable

ExperimentalFilm said...

jeezzz between sayid and mickey d's i can't understand a damn word anybody's saying .

memphish said...

HD Rocks!

I am so ticked that frickin' Season 2 Locke is very in evident tonight. Would someone please give him a can of hair spray and a lighter!

The FB is a little boring, and the ping pong story is very anti-climactic compared to the A story.

Keesh said...

Is anyone going to try to translate that page John picked up?

JGZ350 said...

Wow, Sayid almost tuned up patchy with one arm. So cool to see Kate back to her usual form and what the heck was freggin' Locke when the sh** was hitting the fan. Freggin' Locke is looking like he is going to hit an all time low in the eps, and that's speculation on my part.

FYSB said...

This is really awesome. Plot Development! Information! Exotic accents! Ping Pong! And a secret in the basement!

Woohoo!

FYSB said...

Argh, memphish, no Dharma hairspray shenanigans!

And yeah Kate for being a bad a$$ again.

memphish said...

OMG! OMG! OMG!

Totengraber said...

Hey Y'all,

HAPPY LOST DAY!!

Keesh said...

Wha?! What language was that.
She HAD to know more than he did. She knew who they were, so why so hostile?

memphish said...

I cannot believe that was Mrs. Klugh and Patchy shot her and who speaks Russian? We need a translator!

memphish said...

But on the plus side everyone's outside now when/if the thing blows and I think it said something about Black Rock on the C4!

ExperimentalFilm said...

i like how rousseau just totally bounces .


and aww ms clugh .

thattts what ya get yalittlebiotch .

JGZ350 said...

Locke is hitting an all time low. Locke is weak- Sayid is the man, if it wasn't for him, They all would be dead. Mrs. Klough made a quick cameo, so cool to see Kate get a little before she was offed.

ExperimentalFilm said...

aha, DHARMA KARMA, MUCH ??

JGZ350 said...

that crazyh French chick is weak for standing down and hanging back at the creek. She knew something was up.

Keesh said...

Of course they would blow up the flame. They let Danny go. Michael IM-ed without saying he's a survior, come save us & my boy. No, of course not.

Keesh said...

cute. Sawyer said HUGO.

Keesh said...

JJ, you can hear what I'm typing weeks before I write this. DO NOT HAVE JOHN ENTER 77 FOR )*^%'S SAKE.

Keesh said...

does anyone feel like this is a wasted flashback? The A story is too good, right?

Sayid'sgirl said...

I knew that was going to happen as soon as I seen the C4. Next week looks good too.

ExperimentalFilm said...

truee .

suprising connection: jack and claire are step siblings . i wish they hadn't made this so obvious before .

FYSB said...

What the heck secret did Klugh have that she made the Russian kill her to keep a secret?

memphish said...

Yes, Keesh, there was no need for that flashback or B story. The A story was the Bomb. Get it?

JGZ350 said...

Locke, what have you done? From now on, they need to watch Locke like a little kid. He can not be trusted around a computer. Wow, we are going to have to watch that again. Very good Lost episode.

capcom said...

OK, I am SO not liking Locke right now, he needs to keep his frickin' kiddie paws off the frickin' equipment FERCRYINOUTLOUD!!!!!! Dang him! I do not like him anymore!

Sayid'sgirl said...

Yes I agree I'm getting ready to watch it again right now.

memphish said...

So this episode is setting us up to hate Locke and not mind him dying? I can't believe what he did in the preview, and I spend half the episode yelling "Stupid Locke! No, John! Don't do it!"

JGZ350 said...

Okay, what are we going to need to research? The translation of what Klough was saying or translation of the paper Locke picked up?

capcom said...

I hope that someone at Lostpedia speaks Russian, or whatever they were communicating with.

Man, I'm still mad at Locke, he is such a loose canon. :-(

FYSB said...

I wonder what Locke thought was going to happen? "Oh no, an incursion! I'm Dr. Candle and I'm coming to save you!"

Did anyone notice if Candle had a functioning arm?

memphish said...

We are so going to need to watch that one again. I've got tons of stuff to do tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure I'll be watching Enter 7-7 while I do it.

We definitely need someone who speaks Russian or who had Closed Captioning on maybe.

memphish said...

Fysb, good catch on the arm. It's like Marvin's arm was healed since the Swan film which seems to predate the Pearl video and the computer thing. Any word on what kind of computer that was?

FYSB said...

It was kinda funny to see Candle on the computer screen, though it seemed a little jumpy like it was still a film.

JGZ350 said...

I second that emotion on Locke. When he wasted the Swan station, and he says, "I was wrong" I thought that was the low point of Locke. Now he reached a new low. Locke is the weak link in the Lostie chain. Sayid is the man and if Jack does join the others, Sayid is your man to be the new leader. The only reason Kate and sorry a** Locke are still alive is because of Sayid's military skills and training.
About the B story, too bad for Sawyher. It looks like Hurley got a little payback, finally!

FYSB said...

Memphish! What if Candle messed his arm up in the battle between Dharma and the hostiles?????

ExperimentalFilm said...

do we know who the hostiles were ?

capcom said...

Too funny FYSB, yes, like Dr.Candle is coming to the rescue! :o) It's almost too bad that it didn't blow up with Locke in it....I can't believe that I just said that. He is just too naive for words, I think that he has serious mental probs.

It looked like Candle's left hand was a little stiff there, like when Krychek was dipping his teabag after his amputation. Was the left arm the one that was hanging in the Swan vid?

Tim said...

Well, that's it for all the black people on the hsow.

memphish said...

I've always liked Sayid except for the Glass Ballerina worst ambush in history. I'm glad the real Sayid was back!

That Flashback stuff though. Boring. Why was he in Paris? That's just where the refugee agency sent him when he pretended to be a Syrian? And where did he learn to cook?

I still can't decide if he really tortured that woman or not. Eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable, but by the end hubby thought he really did torture her. The point of the flashback was true confession (unlike Eko) and true forgiveness? To give mercy beyond what you were given? That's why Sayid not Danielle decides the "fate" of Patchy, discarding preview info.

Keesh said...

Adult ADD,
Look a one-eyed prisoner, look tons of info on the others, look they have ICE----and he can't stay away from the online chess game?! This isn't John. someone put that man on a leash.

Da Bomb it was. bu-du-chi!

JGZ350 said...

Ahhh, capcom with the cool X-files comparisions. Yeah, I remember your boy Krychek, aka 'rat boy'. I didn't notice candle's arm motion. We need to watch that again. Too bad I have to wait til tomorrow. I am going to order DVR tomorrow, I hate having to wait til tomorrow to watch Lost again.

Heck, Locke should have been in the mental institution and not Hurley. Locke is weak, weak and even more weaker. I thought he might buy it tonight, but patchy saved Locke for a few episodes

Kat said...

AHH such a great Ep...
how do you guys know they were speaking russian??
and will someone translate it

Keesh said...

Well, his parents were far from sane, could be passed on.

memphish said...

I know. How is Charlie going to die next when all the stupidity is going on with Locke? Charlie is lucky not to be on this bloody A-team mission.

capcom said...

Yes Memphish, I think that also the flashback might have been about not lowering himself (Sayid) to the Others' level by wanton killing, and rising above his horrible past as well.

I really enjoyed this ep, I was surprised when it was over already, I was good-to-go for another hour! :o)

JGZ350 said...

I bet someone is trying to translate as we post. It will be online soon, I hope.

Memphish, great take on the FB for Sayid, I'm with you on that.

memphish said...

At the very end, how many people were hoping Sayid was going to clobber Locke with the rifle butt and leave him there? I was!

Keesh said...

Tim - hahaha
No more minority others. What kind of utopia are they working on?! Just like a spooky movie....

Now that I think about it, anna lou got some, dead. Libby was about to have a lot to love, dead. We love Sawyer & Hurley too much to kill them off.

JGZ350 said...

I like your new avatar memphish-

I have a question, if patchy wanted to kill our Losties, why did he 'fix' Sayid? Too bad Kate isn't back all the way, she bought patchy's story. The Kate from S1 & S2 would not have fallen hook line and sinker on patch story. I was starting to buy it for a second, but then I realized it was bogus, it was a trap. The losties should take a cue from the X-files, 'Trust No One' on that godforsaken island. I still think that the crazy french chick is suspect at best. The fact that she didn't want to engage with our Losties showed me that she is only out to take care of herself. Like Sawyer said, they are in the wild and every man for themselves.

capcom said...

Both of Candle's hands were kind of resting there on the desk, in front of him and the camera. I have to check it out again. But at first glance, it looked like the left arm was wooden-ish and the right hand looked normal or more supple.

OK, that is what we have to tell DocArzt to tell TPTB in his interview......somebuddy has to punch Locke out! Or, push him into the dematerializing force-field!

I sure am glad that I have you friends to unload my Locke frustrations on! Sorry. :o)

memphish said...

So TPTB answered tons of questions in this episode and shut down tons of possiblities.

The cable goes to a sonar buoy that sends out pings for submarines to navigate by to arrive, like Ethan and Juliet. Patchy confirms that's how they took the sailboat too. Is that how Ben is planning to take Jack and Juliet home?

Sayid has a freaking map of all the electronics on the island. Finally something that someone can use. And it leads them to the barracks which includes Othersville like homes.

Oh and the fact Sayid actually asked questions! Yeah! Sayid is the bomb!

And Marvin confirmed there is inter-facility communication by entering __. I missed the number. And you enter 24 to get a food drop. And you enter 38 to get the mainland, but that's down. And you enter 56 to get the sonar, but that's down.

But Ben didn't want Locke to press the button. My guess is that the hostiles (aka Ben's group) didn't know about the failsafe key. They thought failure to enter the numbers and what the magnet would do would result in x; and in actuality turning the key resulted in k.

Sorry about the long post.

Sayid'sgirl said...

Is it me or did it seem that Patchy seemed to know Danielle at the end? The fact that she wouldn't go in with them and then wanted to kill Patchy seem odd to me. When she just captured Ben and when he ran she only shot him through the shoulder.

memphish said...

I still can't believe that was Mrs. Klugh. Her ability to speak whatever language that was, I'm assuming Russian, reminded me of HRG thought in Japanese recently on Heroes.

So I guess protecting Othersville is important enough to die for? Patchy has said he won't give it up either.

capcom said...

Yes Memphish, hooray for answered Qs this ep!!!!! We got some! ((If Ivan Patcheski was telling the truth, that is))

memphish said...

Hey Sayid's girl, good point about the shoulder thing. This makes 3 shoulder wounds with Saywer's (and his is basically twice, knife and gun), "Henry" and now Sayid, who seemed pretty spry by the end of the episode despite his wound.

So is Kelvin Dharma or Hostiles?

memphish said...

Did everyone head out?

JGZ350 said...

Kelvin was a hostile. Okay, so during the purge, DI was purged?

memphish said...

Guess so. jgz350, thanks about the avi. I primed it earlier today because I was spoiled as to Flashback location.

This was a really fun episode. Tons of facts vs. esoteric theory stuff. I'm not sure what the Doc Jensen thing from last week that we talked about earlier today means though. It's too late to figure it out now though.

I'll hit F5 a few times, then I'm out.

JGZ350 said...

I'm still here memphish, my head is spinning with trying to digest everything that was given to us tonight. Any random thoughts or questions, memphish?

allisonlauren1 said...

Hey...long time lurker. Glad to be here! Just wanted to add that if I was on this island, I sure as heck would try to avoid blowing up (or imploding) all the places that have some creature comforts.

memphish said...

So jgz350, you think Kelvin was "hostile" to Patchy and vice versa?

Kat said...

I know someone who speaks Russian. I will try to get him to translate for me tomorrow. Im out people. ill be back tomorrow to see what the westies say.

capcom said...

Hey, that's a great theory about what Ben thought might happen if the button wasn't pushed, etc., Memphish.

I kind of like Sawyer's hair up in that half-ponytail. It was out of his eyes at least.

I just about died when Sawyer said to P**lo, "Who the he** are you?!" Let's hear it for a possible shout-out to the Lost fans?

And for all you old timers who watched Saturday Night Live in the early days......when I saw Sayid in the diner, I thought..."cheezebuhguh, cheezebuhguh, pepsi, pepsi!" Heehee.

memphish said...

allisonlauren1--Welcome! So glad you're posting. You're right about the creature comforts. You find ice and now this.

Kat -- we'll look forward to the translations of the dialogue and the papers.

JGZ350 said...

Good question memphish. I think Kelvin wasn't with the DI, but he was with the others. What do you think?

capcom said...

You've got that right Allison....Locke just blew up their new toilet...again! :-p

memphish said...

Capcom, that SNL reference made me LOL. I love that skit. Maybe Sayid could get the Dharma shark to deliver a Candygram to get into Othersville.

JGZ350 said...

That phrase, 'Saving the World' has come back again. Patchy said it was in the want ad he replied too and Kelvin said that to Desmond about pushing the button in the Swan. Okay, timeline on Candle, do you think that video was taken before or after the incident? What was the freggin incident? Was it the purge?

capcom said...

DharmaLandshark!!!! Bwahahahahaha!

allisonlauren1 said...

So are we thinking that it is safe to assume that there are no longer any "official" DI members left on the island?

capcom said...

You're right JGZ, that's probably where Kelvin got the phrase when he was 'splaining things to Dez. He was just quoting the ad that he saw as well, like Patcheski. Good point.

JGZ350 said...

Yes, I believe the DI is but a faded memory. But, if that is the case, then why is everything labeled DI, the food, beers, wine, medical stuff?

memphish said...

Kelvin -- he is a problem for me. I think he's really DI. Otherwise why would he push the button for who knows how many years?

They gave us lots of time references tonight. Patchy said he joined DI 11 years ago which would be 1993. We need to know when the Soviet Union started dismantling their military after their system started breaking down.

I just remembered that Patchy said his last duty station was a LISTENING POST on the Pacific Ocean. Maybe that is why he was recruited by Mittelos or someone posing as the DI? Or did the numbers draw him there? He seemed to be a disgruntled former Communist soldier. We can probably explore this more tomorrow.

As for Kelvin, the first Gulf War ended in 1991 right? That would be the earliest he could be relocated to the Island, late 1991.

Hugh McInytre told us DI shut down in the 80s, right?

Don't know where this leaves us.

Sayid'sgirl said...

This episode seems to tie in with TLE with the DI purging the "hostiles". Sounds like Mittlewerks plan.

memphish said...

Remember that Alvar told us the food drops would occur in perpetuity. And apparently all it takes to trigger that is entering 24. Though not anymore. Did the cow get blown up too? No more burgers for Jack.

memphish said...

When did TWM join Hanso? Anyone know offhand?

JGZ350 said...

Memphish, then that proves the Kelvin is not DI, he was like patchy, working for "the good guys", by your timeline analysis.

memphish said...

But why the button pushing if Ben didn't want the button pushed? Oh, Ben! You confuse everything.

allisonlauren1 said...

Well it seems that the others are not allowing any communications to leave the island that indicate they have taken over. That way they still recived the food drops and had acess to all Dharma facilities and equipment.

memphish said...

Except of course for the infamous transmission of the numbers which haven't gone out allegedly for 16 years. Why didn't anyone come investigate that? Or did they, and that resulted in the purge?

capcom said...

Some Qs:

How much can/should we actually believe of what Patchy said?

Do you think that he figured he'd tell the truth of his story because it would not matter if they knew that much?

But, he was lying about the rest of it as to who were the bad guys, etc?

And can we say (sorry if I'm slow) that he obviously is on whatever side Ms.Klugh was on, which is of course Ben's?

And if he is with Ben's faction, has he been watching/monitoring the Lostaway's since they crashed and arrived?

JGZ350 said...

Maybe Ben was lying, maybe he did enter the code when Locke was pinned with the blast doors. You know, I actually was feeling sorry for Locke when he got pinned by the blast doors, but not anymore.

JGZ350 said...

Also, did anyone notice the camera was monitoring Locke playing chess. I bet Ben had a front row seat for all of that action.

capcom said...

Wait, about the transmission, didn't Danielle change that to her SOS 16 years ago? Meaning that there has been no numbers transmission for 16 years? Again, sorry if I'm dense.

memphish said...

Capcom, Excellent questions.

I'm still a little distracted by DharmaLandShark.

You are so right about Mrs. Klugh and her alliances. I don't think they are necessarily Ben's. What if Mrs. Klugh is visiting Patchy to arrange coup plans now that Ben has that nasty stich infection and since he lived despite having that fatal tumor.

You know we didn't see any monitoring equipment except for the camera aimed at the person on the computer. The comm. station was not the security station, I think.

As for what was the truth, what was lies--it's too late to try to figure that stuff out. I know what he said; but what did he mean (to paraphrase petulant Dr. Jack Shepahrd.)

JGZ350 said...

You are right again, capcom. If so, why didn't 'the good guys' change or stop the crazy french chicks transmission?

capcom said...

Wait, I think that Ben was lying too, because when I re-re-re-watched that episode, I could have sworn that I specifically heard the noise of the timer resetting when Locke was under the door and Ben was in the computer room...that chickachickachick. I think that he did input the numbers.

allisonlauren1 said...

I'm too tired to wrap this all around my brain. I'll rewatch and be back tomorrow. Thanks for the welcome!

JGZ350 said...

I agree memphish, it's too late to analysis this episode any further. I need a good night's rest to let this episode digest. I don't think this episode will be talked out by Sunday. I'm sure the posts will be back to normal tomorrow. Just hope I can carve out some time and at least check the posts, so I don't have to read 400 posts when I get home from work.

Good Night Now,
I'm out-

memphish said...

Whoever controls the land the radio tower is on doesn't care about the numbers is my conclusion.

My guess is that the Purge occured not long after Danielle and her team arrived/crashed on the island which would have been 1988. That would mean Patchy and Kelvin and Juliet and Ethan all arrived post-Purge? Maybe some were given the DI spiel, others the Mittelos spiel, still others another spiel until they earned their way into the society and received their mark? I'm starting to think now that the Juliet thing was her being rewarded not punished. Of course, I hate the Juliet/Jack ship thing, so I tend to think the worst of her.

My typing is starting to deteriorate, so I'll say good night.

capcom said...

Oh gosh, you're right, maybe Ms.Klugh was a defector from Ben's group too?! We have not seen her at all since the dock, right? Maybe she's been plotting with Patcheski on the sly? Deep stuff.

Good Q about why the Others did not stop Danille's transmission. Hmmmm. Don't know what could be the answer to that, and there really should be one. How could they just let it happen to their prescioussssssssssss transmission?! Even if it didn't matter anymore, they sure don't like anyone touching their stuff.

ExperimentalFilm said...

MikCommie had some narsty teeth .

capcom said...

I'm afraid to go to bed, I'll have to read 500 posts tomorrow after the Central and Pacific time LoCos watch! :o)

Oh well, G'night all. Thanks for the post-episode chats!

memphish said...

So Patchy told Sayid the cat's name was Nadia. That was too cute right? It's because Patchy was the one who used his communications with the outside world to find out all the stuff there was to find out about the Losties. Patchy made the files, and then was messing with Sayid in that I'm messing with your mind way that epitomizes the Others.

BTW, I still have not changed my opinion on how bad the Others are and we are 11 episodes in. TPTB are digging that hole deeper and deeper for me. They couldn't get out of it with Ana Lucia. Can they do it with the Others?

Sayid'sgirl said...

Patchy told Sayid he came to the island 11 years ago but he told Locke he tried to beat the computer for 10 years. Didn't he have the computer the first year? But then again he's not really DI so who was really manning that station? Was Patchy relating that persons story if so did he get the computer post purge or incident? I'm not sure if I'm making since or not but there seems to be a descrepency (sp) in his story. He had been isolated for some reason the whole don't cross the line sounded like Tom. Maybe he just mixed his story with the DI. I don't know I'm just babbling right now I think. So Sorry.

capcom said...

One more.

Ooooooh you are so right Memphish. How could that be just a coincidence?! He's got the means to get all the info he needs about everyone. Nadia, indeed.

BTW, did y'all get the latest from Primatech? Samantha has a myspace page. How Rachel.

OK...honkshoooooooooooooooo!

capcom said...

OK, two more.

Right Sayidsgirl, Patchy probably even knew that they were coming. With all the cameras they have on the island (according to what we saw Jules scoping out), he probably had an act all prepared, to fake them out as if he was not on the "Tom" side, and that Tom told him what he told the Lostaway group that night about The Line. Sneaky.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

capcom said...

Uhoh, DarkUFO has a translation of Ms.Klugh's foreign verbage in the screencaps section.

scoutpost said...

Ok, Mountain Standard time is done. What an episode. I am ashamed that I call myself a Locke fan! What was up with him?! Like someone said- he was like a little kid in there, can't leave him alone for a minute!

Ok going over to DarkUFO to see what that verbage is.

LuckyGuyLikeMe said...

Wow, what an episode. I'm starting to wonder why Locke is one of my favorite characters. I really hope they're not setting him up to be killed.

There are two things about Kelvin that no one has brought up yet. One, I don't remember specific quotes, but he kept telling Desmond things about "The Hostiles." Also, he was repairing Desmond's boat. Was he really trying to get away, or was he trying to fix it because he's part of The Others and they wanted/needed it?

Unless I remember something soon, I'll think about this episode more tomorrow... I need to get to bed. Goodnight!

Dennis said...

Wow!

Catching up on comments...brb...

LuckyGuyLikeMe said...

Ah well I did think of something else. Unless Kelvin was acting/lying, when Desmond first arrived Kelvin acted like no one was ever coming to replace him. This would imply that he was planning on someone coming to replace, which might imply further that he was there under some sort of false pretenses.

scoutpost said...

Ok as much as I'd like to comment on something, I'm totally braindead and can't think straight. I'll just lurk for awhile.

scoutpost said...

Is anyone there?

I was trying to think about what Doc Jensen said about the easter egg- (you know, the discussion that spawned all the 1984/room 101 talk.)
Do you think the easter egg is in/on the paper that Locke picked up? hmmm Guess I'll go back and rewatch that part.

LuckyGuyLikeMe said...

Scoutpost, that would be interesting if the easter egg was indeed on the paper that Locke picked up. I'm still here... let me know what you find.

LuckyGuyLikeMe said...

I'm sorry for posting so much these past couple of minutes, but I once again thought of something else. I found it thought-provoking when Mikhail said that The Others took "two cows" and that was it. It reminds me of Noah's Ark and how Noah only took two of each animal.

Sayid'sgirl said...

On the lighter side. I wonder how long a week will be in island time? I don't know if I can go the rest of the season without a Sawyer-ism :)

Dennis said...

If Mikhail claimed to be the last survivor of the Dharma Initiative, does that mean the others didn't know about Kelvin and Desmond?

LuckyGuyLikeMe said...

LostPedia already has the translations of both the dialogue between Ms. Klugh and Mikhail and the papers Locke looked at. Also, a screencap on DarkUfo's site shows that Marvin Candle's left arm was indeed fake in The Flame's video.

Dennis said...

Here is the translations for the Russian (from Lostpedia):

Text
.. lost in his land, and they must
... if necessary, through complete social
(break)
...
... pushed away Andrey (underlined, see first red note). Nadji was not
... resistance, however he was an excellent
... a cousin of influential
... one of the northwestern
... ...cialist helping
(break, paper scrolls down)
.. radicals of that time...
...believed that they held up the West...
...road to Allah, so he could erase infidels from the face of the Earth...
... Andrey thought, that the fall of Afghanistan will become an impulse ...
... of revolution
... came today", Nadji reported with a strong accent...
... Russian language.
... ICI (some Russian acronym) will be included in this. And you...
... Andrey ...

Dennis said...

The Russian dialog from Lostpedia:

Klugh: Mikhail. Mikhail! You know what to do.
Mikhail: We still have another way [out].
Klugh: We cannot risk. You know the conditions.
Mikhail: There is another way.
Klugh: They captured us. We will not give (or let, or betray) [unintelligible].
Klugh: You know what to do. It is an order.
Mikhail: We still have another way!
Klugh (in English): Just do it, Mikhail.
Mikhail: Forgive me. (shoots)

Sayid'sgirl said...

I googled Mikhail Bakunin's name and got this.
Mikhail Bakunin 1814-1876
Mikhail Bakunin was on of the founding fathers of Anarchism. He is often considered to be Marx's historical rival. When Marx headed toward State-run Socialism, Bakunin argued for the abolition of the State as the most fundamental goal for those who want to guarantee freedom.

Dennis said...

good night all! don't forget to type 77 on your way out :)

DeDJeZTeR said...

Darn Dennis beat me to it, but mine has funny text...LOL

Capcom,You get Locke to the Super Fence and I'll give him the kick in the ***.

I don't know what to say just yet. I think Kelvin was Dharma. The real last of the DI. He was keeping Dezmonds sailboat to himself, these are not the actions of a Hostile (OTHER). The Others knew that He was dead or gone and this is why they made their play to either get or destroy the Hatch.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Oh yeah and we got new DI numbers as well.

DI 90M1654-21644

C-ya And Namaste
Until tomorrow

DeDJeZTeR said...

SIce I seem to be alone I also want to say this.

If they just shrug and say "Well that place blew up, guess we don't ever have to go there ever again." I will leap through the TV "Shocker" style and strangle Locke and who ever he happens to be with.

Please be ***** and *****, cause that would kill three birds with one stone... err

C-ya

Ange said...

Good morning...I could not slep last night thinking about all of this. Grrr ABC and your time change. Okay so caught up and here goes:
1. I *heart* DarkUFO
2. Lock pushing the button may be just what the DI needed to alert them to the fact that their initiative has been compromised.
2. Eye Patch man is perhaps ordering food drops.
3. Question: What kind of a fail safe would have you actually have to beat a chess game to activate it. Seems if things were moving fast, that would not be easy to sit and play a "nice game of chess" (War Games anyone?).
GREAT episode!

memphish said...

Good Morning LoCos.

I haven't re-watched yet. But I will as soon as I get everyone out of the house this am.

Ange, This is the one that kept me awake last night. One of the Russian letters includes the name Nadij which was the alias Sayid was using in Paris. I'm guessing that page is in fact from Sayid's dossier that Patchy compiled like Jack's dossier that Juliet had.

But I don't know why it mentions Afghans if it's referring to Sayid unless Sayid somehow escaped Iraq via Afghanistan where he also used his soldier skills. I had assumed he'd gone to Syria as a refugee because he was pretending to be Syrian while he was in Paris.

Patchy told Sayid he served in Afghanistan with the Soviet army, possibly to build a connection, but that would have put them on opposite sides in that conflict more than likely.

I agree that Patchy was ordering the food which would explain the Swan station vodka and merlot. Maybe he ordered it when Ben was in the Hatch in part to try to afford Ben an opportunity to escape. Only Ben didn't really want to escape yet, because he could have?

memphish said...

Dedjezter, I love your new avi. Do you have experience in that protocol? We had a contest in college regarding said protocol that my econ. professor from Wisconsin won handily.

Everyone click Ded's avi so you know what I'm talking about.

memphish said...

At the end of the episode Hurley tells Sawyer Kate will be okay because she's with Sayid and Locke. That reminds me of what Kate said to Shannon about Boone when Boone and Locke found the Hatch. And we all know how that turned out.

memphish said...

Why is The Flame above ground, albeit with a basement? The computer was above ground.

ib4uc said...

Good morning Locos. Going to catch up on the comments.

JGZ350 said...

Good Morning Locos and a tremendous Thursday to you-

memphish, since the flame was a communications station, thanks to the kid in Locke, it would have to be above ground for satellite commnications to the real world, of course there was a basement that probably had tunnels to the other stations.

Still digesting this episode and waiting to read recaps of last night's episode.

You know you got it bad when you go to sleep after watching Lost and then have a freggin dream about Lost. Oh and of couse, no answers were giving in my dream.

Ange said...

memphish said : Maybe he ordered it when Ben was in the Hatch in part to try to afford Ben an opportunity to escape. Only Ben didn't really want to escape yet, because he could have?
Right on! I never even thought of that. Also, I have been thinking about something (hooray long drive to work). This piggy backs on what Fenris has said about an archeological dig on the island (the statue, Kate and Sawyer digging, etc...). I was thinking on this and wondering if it is possible that there were already people on the island when DHARMA showed up with their initiative. MAYBE DHARMA even went there to study this already existing society (a utopia maybe?). So perhaps the artifacts and the funeral ceremony that we have seen, are part of this pre-existing society, and DHARMA is researching the evolution of the island? I dunno, as I write it, it does not make as much sense as it does in my head, but thoughts?

Melissa_Lossa said...

Good morning, TLC! I'll jump right in with some random thoughts/questions about last night:

1) What the heck did Locke THINK was going to happen when he entered 77? He seemed pretty pleased with himself, right up until the house went kerplooey.
1a) You can get Locke to do ANYTHING if you tell him via computer and/or film.

2) Doesn't it seem like there should be a much easier way to get to that self-destruct command? I mean, what if the only person who survives the attack on the compound sucks at chess? And why do you have to go through all of the mundane commands to get to the self-destruct? Seems like it should be like when you call the gas company and "report a gas leak" is the first choice that you get.

3) Is it just me, or does Danielle always seem a little too eager to hop on the "he's an Other, let's kill him" bandwagon?
3a) That whole, "I don't want to be here, I'm going to wait by the creek" thing was a bit suspicious.

4) Did Sayid actually torture that woman? I think no - he just admitted to it to give her a little peace of mind.
4a) If Sayid's such a good cook, why hasn't he been whipping up any food for the Losties. How about some Dharma mac & cheese with mango salsa, man?
4b) Sayid always seems so on the ball - how did he fall for the whole "come work in my restaurant, we're just two Iraqis far from the desert" BS?

5) I loved Sayid's "I'm surrounded by idiots" facial expression at the end. That about summed it up for me!

6) Patchy McOne-eye and Kelvin had the exact same story about being ex-military and seeing an ad to join the DI to save the world. Did Patchy steal the story or was Kelvin also lying?

Okay, that's all I can remember right now - I'm sure I'll think of a lot more. This was a great episode!

memphish said...

Ange, I think you're right about the pre-existing people. Patchy says the "hostiles" were there long before Dharma. I think that is probably true. The question then becomes, who of the people we know--Ben, Tom, Pickett, Colleen, Mrs. Klugh, various gun-toting Others, Karl, Alex, Patchy, Kelvin, Goodwin, Ethan, Juliet--are hostiles and which of those were there before Dharma.

And of course, what the heck happened during the Purge. Why that name? It reminds me purges by numerous totalitarian regimes, but especially Stalin given Patchy's accent. Still thinking about it.

memphish said...

Melissa_lossa said: I loved Sayid's "I'm surrounded by idiots" facial expression at the end. That about summed it up for me!

Me too! If I were Sayid, I'd have shot them all then and headed to the barracks by myself.

Melissa_Lossa said...

When that building exploded, and Locke gave his "the computer said to enter this code" explanation, Sayid looked like he wanted to throttle somebody.

Also, I realize that no one knew that the building was going to blow up, but personally, I would have taken a heck of a lot more stuff, especially from the Dharma library in the basement. Sayid had that one piece of paper, and Locke didn't appear to have anything.

memphish said...

There was a line of dialogue that Kate and Locke were getting some supplies before they left, but it wasn't terribly evident.

Melissa_lossa, your line about mac 'n cheese is making me hungry!

Dennis said...

DeDJeZTeR said... Darn Dennis beat me to it, but mine has funny text...LOL

You can have it... I was going to change mine back anyways :)

Ange said...

memphish, I think what you said about a dossier is brilliant. Although I can't help but wonder how Patchy would know Sayid was going to show up at the farmhouse, and just happen to have a cat and all the key words ready for him. I do think that was his job...get the information on the Losties, using the sattelite dish, before communications went down.

melissa_lossa said: 4) Did Sayid actually torture that woman? I think no - he just admitted to it to give her a little peace of mind.
I agree with you there. He was so adimant about not torturing her, and he did not seem to recognize her upon meeting her. I think he read the situation, and told her what she needed to hear, knowing it would mean he would be let go.

I was looking at the conversation between Klugh and Patchy before he shot her, I want to know:
1. What other way is there?
2. Why is killing your partner then yourself a good way to get out of a situation?
3. "It is an order". From who? Who is giving the order, Klugh? Does she have stature that we don't know about, or has someone else given out order to kill yourself rather than being captured. And if this is the case, why didn't Ben kill himself when he was captured and held in the hatch?
Again...I just want to know what is going on!

Melissa_Lossa said...

memphish - yeah, Sayid said that Kate and Locke were looking for stuff to take, but I think when they came out, he commented to Locke that he must not have found anything worth taking.

ange - I agree, Sayid was so forthcoming about all of the torture that he had done, it seemed like he would have admitted it earlier if it was true. I think he just saw that she needed to know that she wasn't just some anonymous victim, so he told her what she wanted to hear.

ib4uc said...

capcom said... I just about died when Sawyer said to P**lo, "Who the he** are you?!" Let's hear it for a possible shout-out to the Lost fans?

I thought he said it to N***i but it doesn't matter. The line was great anyway! After he said it, I said to myself, don't we all want that answer also.

memphish said...

I can't decide where I come down on Sayid torturing Amari. She says she was tortured for 3 months. Even though eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable, 3 months gives you a pretty good amound of time to recognize your torturer, and Sayid hasn't had the drastic Flashback hair changes that could confuse her.

We know Sayid lied when he told Amari and Sami he didn't torture women, because we know he was involved in the torture of Nadia. I think Sayid did torture Nadia so that he could control how bad it was.

Hubby, who didn't watch the whole episode but saw the scene where Sayid confesses to Amari thought Sayid was telling her the truth. I thought he was telling her what she wanted to hear just like she told her torturer what he wanted to hear after 3 months of torturing.

Ange said...

Agreed melissa_lossa about Sayid. Although, I don't think he was telling her for the sole reason of giving her peace. I love Sayid, but I think there is a side to him that we are beginning to see. Sayid is brilliant in my eyes, and I just have a strong feeling that everything he does is calculated. I think he told her that he was sorry specifically so he would be released, and not necessarily to make her feel okay. Also, I think that may be ione of the reasons we were shown that in his flashback.

Sayid'sgirl said...

I was reading back through the comments I just skimmed through them last night,and capcom said:
I think that also the flashback might have been about not lowering himself (Sayid) to the Others' level by wanton killing, and rising above his horrible past as well.
I agree with you and also I felt that Patchy was somewhat a Russian version of Sayid. He was military liked computers and communications, Sayid was in communications before he became a torturer and Patchy said he had done terrible things. I think maybe Sayid seen himself in Patchy whom said he would kill them all when their guard was down and wanted to rise above that too.

memphish said...

Thinking about Danielle and her completely weird behavior--I think that Danielle is somehow aligned with Patchy and Mrs. Klugh, and probably Ben. I think her push for Sayid to kill Patchy right away mirrors Mrs. Klugh having Patchy kill her so that she wouldn't give away any info. Danielle is now supposed to make sure Patchy doesn't either.

This is kind of a joke, but what if Danielle is Jacob?

Dennis said...

Ange said...Did Sayid actually torture that woman? I think no - he just admitted to it to give her a little peace of mind.
I agree with you there. He was so adimant about not torturing her, and he did not seem to recognize her upon meeting her. I think he read the situation, and told her what she needed to hear, knowing it would mean he would be let go.


I disagree. I think he was lying at first, because her husband would had probably killed him or worse. But when they were alone, she was able to break him and get him to admit what he had done. He was truly sorry for what he had done, which is why he later spared Mikhail's life.

If he was just telling her what she wanted to hear, that was a risky play since he didn't know she let him go by lying to her husband. Then he "fakes" crying to sell it?

Sayid'sgirl said...

You're right Ange
I think Sayid is brilliant and calculating that's what I love about him he's been my favorite character since the begining.
I think if he didn't torture her which he may have tortured women he was suppose to torture Nadia but if he didn't he was trying to give her peace of mind and I think he was truly sorry if not for her torture but for all the others he had done. But I think he also seen a way to free himself.

Amused2bHere said...

Good Moooooorrrnnning Lost Community!

What an episode last night. Astute observations, everyone.
I agree:
Locke needs a babysitter.
Sayid is running out of patience.
Hurley beat Sawyer! How great is that?

LOL Sawyer to N&P "who the h@ll are you?" Exactly.

And we have another philospher...Mikhail. Verrry interesting...

Feeling better now, thanks for all your prayers.

more later

Melissa_Lossa said...

I don't know, dennis, I agree with ange that it was a calculated risk. Sayid knew that if he didn't confess, they would continue torturing him until he was dead. By confessing to the wife alone, he was able to bring her a little peace, thereby easing his guilty conscious a little and also playing off her nature to get himself released. He must have known since she stopped her husband the first day, that she would be the better one to throw himself on the mercy of.

I guess to me, Sayid had nothing to gain from refusing to confess, so why do it?

Sayid'sgirl said...

amused2bhere
Glad to hear you're feeling better that 24 hour stuff can be rough.

Dennis said...

memphish said...

So Patchy told Sayid the cat's name was Nadia. That was too cute right? It's because Patchy was the one who used his communications with the outside world to find out all the stuff there was to find out about the Losties. Patchy made the files, and then was messing with Sayid in that I'm messing with your mind way that epitomizes the Others.

How do you explain the Nadia Comaneci poster?

Melissa_Lossa said...

When Locke kept looking from Patchy to the computer, I was thinking, "are you kidding?!"

Also, another random thought - if you had just been shot by some crazy dude, and you were convinced that he was lying about everything and that there was someone else lying in wait in the house, would you really drink the iced tea that he gave you?! I kept waiting for Sayid or Kate to do the old "so, tell me more.... um, about the.... Dharma In- ...... *snore*......"

Ange said...

dennis said: If he was just telling her what she wanted to hear, that was a risky play since he didn't know she let him go by lying to her husband.
Fair call, although, what did he have to lose really? Her husband was more than likely going to kill him. Why not tell a lie, and have a chance of being let go? And the crying, well heh, I would probably cry too if I was being tortured and worried about being killed. Although maybe he is allergic to cats, and his eyes were just bothering him.

memphish said...

Dennis said: How do you explain the Nadia Comaneci poster?

I missed the poster last night because I was taking notes. I saw that on Lostpedia this morning. I'd say a general love of gymnastics and The Young and the Restless whose theme Nadia performed her flawless floor ex too. After all he does have that satellite dish. I guess you can write it off as coincidence, but that's a pretty big one.

It's too bad that Kate didn't have a chance to drug that tea last night. She could have taken Patchy and Locke out if only she'd had time.

memphish said...

It's funny that the women on the board think that Sayid was lying to Amari, but Dennis and hubby think he was telling the truth.

memphish said...

Mrs. Klugh was wearing her "hillbilly" Others clothes instead of the Lands' End type clothers the Others were wearing at the Hydra. I guess this was in case she came across the Fusies who shouldn't know that the Others aren't hillbillies.

Does anyone know enough about EMPs or what might have happened when the failsafe key was turned that would explain why the link to the mainland and the sonar was down, but the computers and cameras and other electronic equipment on the island still work?

Melissa_Lossa said...

memphish - very true! We'll have to wait for some of the other boys to surface to get their take on the whole Sayid question. :)

I tend to think that it was a coincidence that the cat was named Nadia. Nadia Comaneci was a huge celebrity in the 80s, so to me it makes sense that Patchy would name his cat after her. I think that he did know about Sayid's Nadia, however, and made a point to say the cat's name just to mess with Sayid.

Either that, or he knew about Nadia, had the poster, and lied about the cat's name to mess with Sayid. That way, he could screw with him and then play innocent, "what? I like gymnastics?" ;)

Wow, I'm really into the snarky quotes this morning.

Ange said...

Re the Nadia poster. Patchy mentioned that he had the same birthday as her. Could this be important?

memphish said...

If what appears to happen in the previews is what happens, I'm pretty sure Locke's not going to be on Ben's "good" list anymore.

It would also be the first person Locke's killed right? He didn't kill Eddie. He hasn't killed anyone on island. Locke is going off the deep end.

bigdog said...

Im a man, Dont think Sayid tortured the wife.

Locke said that Patchy would know they were coming - so i think everything that was said by him was mostly for disinformation.

Sawyer - Who the hell are you? hilarious.

hugo seems to be getting a lot of confidence since his magic VW car ride.

Locke should be ashamed of himself.

Melissa_Lossa said...

On a completely random note, did anyone else notice that the stuff that Hurley gave back to Sawyer (because Sawyer "seems like a guy who needs stuff") was a pile of porn magazines? Priceless.

I did like that Hurley picked up on the fact that it was Kate that was really upsetting Sawyer, though. Although I do agree with the person who said that knowing that she was with Sayid and Locke wouldn't neccessarily fill me with confidence.

Sayid'sgirl said...

Ange I wondered that too.
She was born on Nov. 12, 1961 does that mean anything to anyone.

memphish said...

It means she's older than me and that's a good thing. I have to confess I was one of the girls who became a gymnast post-Nadia.

bigdog said...

It also seems like the losties keep collecting maps but dont really put them together for anything.

where are rose and bernard??

ib4uc said...

I just don't know what to make of the torture admission. On one hand, I think he's telling her the truth, but on the other hand, I think "wow, he's really doing a great acting job there". He does have a history of torturing women so I wouldn't doubt it if he indeed tortured Amari and lied at first to save his butt.

memphish... oooooh, I have to go watch the preview for next week again. I think I must've missed something.

Sayid'sgirl said...

memphish said: It means she's older than me and that's a good thing.
Well unfortunately she's not older than me. :)
On the issue of Locke. I think Locke was stupid enough to think that if he pushed 77 that help would be sent, a rescue not that the DI would destroy any evidence of their existance. I think he felt he had out smarted Patchy. He wasn't in the room to hear what Patchy had told Sayid if had been maybe he would have thought twice about entering that code. Also the fact that Patchy didn't seem to concerned about Locke playing the game makes me wonder if he wanted the station to be blown up.

JGZ350 said...

I think Sayid was telling the truth about torturing that poor woman. BTW, that was an incredible performance by Naveenn in that scene.

Coincidence on the Nadir poster. What was up with the comment from patchy about her being the best athlete in the world?

What about the cat? Was it the same cat that the woman Sayid tortured? Similiar to the black horse of Kate, Jack's dad, Dave for Hugo, and Yemi for Eko.

JGZ350 said...

Was the patchy's cat,Nadir, smokey in diguise?

Ange said...

Okay food thought: Patchy had that fridge full of what looked to be fresh meat. I am thinking that he has recently slaughtered something and stored it. He also mentioned, when serving the tea, that he grew it himself. So, I am wondering, if he is really on his own, or with only a few other people, why would Patchy need to slaughter and animal and save the meat? That is quite a big job for someone that has access to food drops. I am thinking that he knew that food was no longer going to be coming, and/or he was trying not to rely on the DI food so much. Maybe he knows something about the food that we aren't privy to yet. It takes time to grow tea, so it seems he has been at it for a while.

sayid's girl said: On the issue of Locke. I think Locke was stupid enough to think that if he pushed 77 that help would be sent.
Agreed!

maven said...

Great morning all!

Wow, it was hard to get to sleep after that action-packed episode!

Trying to play catch-up with all your great observations...here's a few of my own:
At least with Sawyer's new hair-do, we get to see all of his eyes! I don't think Sawyer really likes the idea that he's come back to a "commune now" (Paulo: "We share things now.") And Sawyer's "Who the hell are you" to Nikki was priceless (I think a shoutout to us fans from TPTB)! How can we live without Sawyerisms for an island week? Ugh!

How old was that cow? If the Hostiles came and took 2 cows and left one, that cow must be pretty old. LOL Although it's well-trained!

Agreed Rousseau's reactions were strange...not wanting to go with them into the Flame station and wanting to kill Mikhail right away.

Interesting that Nadia the kitty was Sayid's trigger. What are the odds for both cats to be so similar? And having the name of his true love!

Wondering about the Purge with te hositles. Could that be about the time that Mittelos took over from Dharma? Although the Hostiles were there for a "very long time" before DI, can we believe anything Mikhail says?

Agreed that the Flame instigates the food drops. The "Hostiles" must have been really pissed when the Losties got the last food drop.

I'm with the group of you (mostly the "girls) who agree that Sayid lied to the woman about torturing her. She could have represented all those he tortured and it was a way for him to cleanse himself of his guilt by confessing for all his sins. He also knew he would be helping her get on with her life.

The film with Marvin Candle definitely had him with a fake left arm.

Why was Mrs. Klugh still dressed like she was and not in more contemporary clothes like those in Otherville and Hydra?

The Flame was rigged with C-4 explosives, but Locke didn't know that when he entered 7 7. The scene where the computor voice intices him to continue playing when he should be watching Mikhail was a groaner...he can't stay away from pushing buttons!

Sorry for the long post. Lots to think about here. All your comments are so inciteful!

memphish said...

Sayid's girl, Patchy was clearly playing Locke. Again, I think these "Others" know pretty much everything we do about the kind of people the Losties really are. Ironically the Losties themselves are the only ones with secrets about themselves that they keep from each other.

The more I rewatch the episode, the madder I get at Locke. What a putz!

So far this season TPTB have made me start to view Jack as a creepy stalker of the women he has relationships with (reminds me of him watching Kate with the fruit seeds way back in Season 1); they've killed Eko who I liked but not before making it clear he was still the warlord not a priest; and they've taking Season 2 Locke and made him even more of a schmutz. I guess the next step is to make me like the Others. And I do like Ben, though not the rest of them, well, except Tom. Dang! The tide is turning against my will.

jgz350, I have a friend who thinks the cat is Smokey too. It is like Kate's horse. So Smokey lives with Patchy?

Keesh said...

Sayid did hurt her. Klugh is above Patchy. Dharma's are dead. What the Others are doing is worth dying to keep a secret.

Man, I love this show.

memphish said...

I think that Locke lost the use of his legs by pushing a computer button after the computer said to him, "If you push this button, you will never walk again." But he pushed it anyway.

JGZ350 said...

No smokey didn't live with patchy. Patchy's cat bought it in the Locke's gaffee of entering 77. I think the cat that Sayid sees after the flame goes up in flames, is smokey taking the form of Sayid's victims cat. What do you think?

Melissa_Lossa said...

ange - my guess on the cows in the fridge was just that fresh meat probably tastes better than canned Dharma ham, or whatever comes in those food drops. Whatever Dharma is dropping, it would have to be non-perishable. And sometimes a guy just needs a steak!

About Ms. Klugh - we have not seen her at the Others camp at all since they left the dock. Maybe she's still dressed that way because she hasn't been home yet. It's possible that Ben sent her out on some other errand.

Sayid's girl - agreed. The other commands were all regarding communications with the outside world. Locke probably thought that entering 77 would send an alert, rather than a self-destruct. Again, if the Losties would just communicate! I think a "Hey Locke, be careful. The basement's rigged with explosives" would have stopped him in his tracks.

Keesh said...

What if Locke was the one who jumped from Hurley's accountant's building? He could have it a balcony or something. We'll find out soon.

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