Here it is! This is the first installment of the all-new Lost Community Podcast. You can click HERE (or right-click, save-as) to listen to the podcast. We also have the podcast available for FREE subscription or download in the iTunes Music Store. Passafist is the mastermind behind these recordings and, in the spirit of this community, he wants everyone to participate. Record your own MP3 (5 mins or less - download Audacity Software if you don't have any already) and send it to passafistwastaken@gmail.com. If you can't record an MP3 then just send in your thoughts and theories via email and Passifist will do his best to share them with the rest of us.
Monday, October 09, 2006
The Lost Community Podcast - Episode 1
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Second. Wow!
Third!
Thanks for putting up a post for the podcast! I feel honored!!! WORD UP!!!
Hay Admin do you have isdn where you record? or a simple phone line, we'd love to talk to you for the show next week!!
Passafist: Thanks for mentioning in the last post that my email didn't get to you in time! I tried recording with the sound recorder on my accessories but it records only for 1 min! I can't say everything in 1 min.! LOL So I guess I'll have to download the Audacity program for next week!
Thanks again for all your hard work. Although it did sound like you had a blast!
Awesome Maven,
I'm going to use you e-mail at the top of the show this week, kind of a review, and then we'll get into the show! Did you think the show was too spoilerish? I find it impossible not to speculate on spoilers, so I embrace them not really trying to ruin the fun?!?
WORD UP
Previously On tLOSTc "Sayid'sgirl said...
I'm kind of curious to why you would need a button to communicate inside of an aquarium. I mean do the sharks and dolphins talk? And if there were sharks or dolphins in there wouldn't be full of water and anyone with them would have a dive suit on you'd think and couldn't talk.
Anyway just seems strange to me."
I dont think this will answer all your questions, but it's a start:
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=11642
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOnBdhK3hyk
Thanks man!!! A good microphone and a 5000 dollar compressor make all the difference!!
Feel free to e-mail comments and critiques and if you have you're own ideas for the podcast, or would like to have your own little segment of it feel free to contact me at passafistwastaken@gmail.com.
I really want this to be about us, beacuse their are hundreds of other podcasts about the show proper. So feel free to offer any suggestions!
WORD UP
"Fa loves Pa!", for you 'Day of the Dolphin' movie fans. :-)
Congrats on your first podcast Passafist!
Re: ocean vs. tanks, etc.; the Hydra station doesn't have to be adjacent to the ocean, it could just have an aquarium tank. Those huge pipeline structures could be pump lines to get the saltwater to the tanks. The place where Jack was at looked to me more like a medical room for working on (tagging, tending, experimenting?) the specimens in the aquarium, on the table there, etc. The squawk-box looked pretty rickety and not very waterproof, so I don't think that it was used underwater due to electrical shortage. Perhaps that's why it supposedly doesn't work anymore, from a previous flooding. JMHO :-)
Good question about whether or not there was a "plant" or cameo in the Jack-back in this ep. If there was an Other at the AA meeting, they very possibly could have repeated Christian's words to Jack about letting it go. "I'll have to watch that again!"
Concerning underground rails, and such, remember that according to the hatch map there seem to be connecting tunnels, so there may be even more tunnels that we don't know about. Someone in the show (Danielle or Ana?) said that the Others just appear and disappear, so if there is a network of tunnels (think "the tunnels of Cu Chi" in Vietnam), that would also be a way to do that, and possibly the way that they snatched Cindy. The Others have certainly been there long enough to dig out some serious tunnelage.
capcom.... I have wondered......
Day of the Dolphin
Alpha is nicknamed Fa, because it is phonetically easier for the dolphins to understand....
Do ya see where I am going with this?........
Beta was nicknamed.........Bea
As in Ms Bea LOL
common! season 3!!!
48 hours until Lost Day!!! YAY!! Awesome job Passifist!!!! I might try and send you somthing later on this week if I get a chance!!!
Thinbluemime.....ruh-roh! :-)
BTW, Thinblue, great work on getting all those screencaps from the connections part of the LostS2 DVD....wow. Could you do that with the Sri Lanka vid for us too? Just kiddin'. :-D
capcom, why cap when you can youtube, LOL
Matt the Pale still has the Sri Lanka video up there.
Speaking of YouTube, Google bought them today.........
(puts pinky finger between front teeth)
for 1.6 BILLION dollars......
a dejavu Austin Powers, Dr Evil, moment :)
TBM, well that's big news! But I hope that China doesn't start censoring Google about YouTube now too. :-(
As for Sri Lanka, I was hoping that someone might find some subliminal images in there if they went through it frame by frame. It's hard to pause it on each "frame" on YouTube, or at least I haven't gotten very good at it yet.
Thinblueline: thanks for the links.
I kind of thought along those lines but I'm not really sure if I can let myself go that way,but it could be a possibility.
After all people have been trying to communicate with dolphins for a long time.
But then you have to factor in the sharks, hummm still a good theroy though.
A lot of you guys are deeper thinkers than I am. Thanks again for the links.
capcom, I think I did some caps early on, with the Sri Lanka video. But after a month of viewing the first few segments a Zillion times, I could repeat the dialog verbatim and I didnt need caps anymore cause I had Hanso pics stuck in my head.
I also now say "Security" with a Swiss-Danish accent. There is no hope ,LOL
One thing I wanted though from the Sri lanka video, was a clear pic of the document on the wall behind Hanso's monolog. I guess it isnt important now, but it may haunt me till the day Lost dies :)
sayid'girl, you are welcome. And of course it is all pretty much speculation until the writers confirm it so, on Lost.
But the dolphin sounds that were hidden on the season 2 DVD bonus disk is a clue, to what, I am not sure at this time.
TBM, yeah, I can definitely see how a person could get very sick of capping that entire vid, watching the needed umpteenhundred times alone to complete it, was as indeed enough.
I liked the way Mr. Beardy said "perpetuity", he sounded like the Swedish Chef on the Muppet show. :-)
Just because it ended up at the end of the last post...
The intercom confirms for me that the Dharma sharks are being trained as fast food dive in workers.
*static*
Shark Trainee: Um, ok, so that'll be one FishBiscuit Basket deluxe with a side of DharmaRanch Dressing.
*static*
Polar Bear: NO! NO! For the last time...I want TWO Guppie Meals with Smoke Monster action figures and a LARGE order of OtherChildren Fingers!!!
*static*
We all know what happened...the Dharma Underwater Fast Food Initiative failed.
"Pa luvs Fa. Ya want fries wit dat?"
Capcom Said:
Those huge pipeline structures could be pump lines to get the saltwater to the tanks.
I took a look at them pipelines wit the Hydra logo on 'em. Them ain't pipes. Theys canopys over a covered walkway, like the one where ol' Tom led Kate out of the locker room to the beach. Y'all take another gander at that part.
Dig Y'all Later
FYSB said,
with Smoke Monster action figures
Only in the 70's could you make a action figure that smokes.
I like your theorys, I be figurin' this program need some zombies. :)
This program be full of zombies, my man. But ya can't be a zombie, if ya wants to see dem, dig man?
Hey Passafist and Steve,
great Podcast - very professional, Ok so I know you're a radio professional but even so it was excellent, I did wince somewhat listening to myself (I can't believe how many times I said 'um'). I think I'll actually script my comments for next week so the flow will be a little smoother when I record it.
Maven look forward to hearing your comments next week.
Luckyguylikeme I like the idea of a live show , I am a big radio fan BUT I am an even bigger podcast fan. I like the fact that I can listen wherever I am. The other problem with a live show (forgetting all the technical problems) is that Us TLCers are spread not just across the US but across the globe in the UK, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland and Portugal (and elsewhere as well I'm sure). David/Passafist (not David/Admin) is in NJ which means if the show were to go out say 7pm, us Europeans would be tucked up in bed, those on the west coast would be chained to their desks at work or School and as for our antipodean friends, um Oh they'd be up to something.
I know Lostcasts tried their skypecast and whilst it was a valiant effort it was a bit of a tragic failure.
FYSB Love the Fast Food Dive in LOL - Looks like McDonalds in California have already thought of it though! Click Here
A Live Show?!?! Hmmm.. I don't have the equipment to do that myself... I think it would be fun to try. As for the Um's trust me I spent 20 minutes just deleting all the needless umm's out of the podcast. You'd be suprised how much editing was done. I should post the raw stuff, it sounds terrible.
Morning, all! (long comment warning)
okay, I just heard the podcast, and let me say Thanks to Passafist and Steve for an awesome first 'cast. Dude! btw, so cool that my comments made the podcast! loved hearing Dark Angel too, many good points he made (did I just sound like Yoda?)
w00t!!!!!
Thanks guys....you rock!
Dharma food drops fully automated? nah, I don't think so. but Hanso did promise that provisions would be made in perpetuity. Lots of gov't programs run on and on without anyone questioning why we are doing it this way or why we are still doing it. Not too farfetched to believe that as long as the money keeps coming in, food drops will continue.
Anyone remember the brief series "Nowhere Man"?
Trust no one. Nothing is as it appears. Everyone is in on the conspiracy. Even you.
bwah! My head hurts.
Oh, and by the way, the Others could have gotten info on Jack from
1. Ethan's reports
2. Ben's observations from his own captivity
3. Jack himself while drugged (there are drugs that induce amenesia but allow interrogation)
or (my fav theory)
4. they have a telepath who reads your subconscious (while ur unconscious?)
just my random musings...
passafist - good editing. I was wondering where the 'ummm's' were. lol.
DA - Quick note - Try to bullet your script for next time, if you actually script it, you can sound like you're just reading!
I spend hours editing out umms from the thousands of interviews I do. Great fun eh passafist?!
not saying it was rubbish - cos it really wasn't - but for your peace of mind...
Has anyone got a robe to get me out of this hole?!
LOOK!!! Over there!!! Is that Rachel mugging an old lady with a travel iron???
whispers to inenglandandlost....
quick, run while they're not paying attention
Rope - not robe - arggggggg
THANKS FYSB
*Whooooooooosh*
(I'm gone)
Happy Lost Eve!
Thanks for the podcast Passafist. I'm going to check it out right now.
*giggling* I like that typo. Robe instead of Rope. I was wondering if you were in a Sauna hole or what? ;)
...testing new avatar...
I'm back! Just spent an hour doing more recordings for one of our stations!
PHEW!
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the tips. I edited tthe clip for the final TLEC podcast but this time I was operating on a laptop with a faulty drive so I formatted the drive, installed Windows and audacity recorded it, praying the laptop didn't die.
This time I will have a bit more time.
amused2behere Agree with you about the food drop. I like Passafist's idea but I think that the operation takes place in the outside world, sort of once a month, no questions asked the mysterious shipment goes out.
Cattygirl Love the avatar - what's the cat called - or is that you?
Well I better get back to work, I won't be around tommorow. I am going to a charity lunch for RADA (Royal Academy for Dramatic Arts). There should be quite a few celbes there so you never know maybe I can get an exclusive interview for the podcast!
Hey Dennis,
Happy Lost Eve back atcha!
Can't wait to see what the Beaches' been doin'.
Thinbluemime said:
This program be full of zombies, my man.
I'm talkin' bout Pacific Island Zombies. The kind with green chlorophyll blood, cooked up by Mad Nasi Scientist, and terrorizin' young blonde chicks! The kind you can't kill even if you cut they heads off! They just keep comin', controlin' they dead bodies wit telekinesis.
Them Zombies.
inenglandandlost, watch out for open holes, I've duga few.
Dig Y'all Later
Don't forget to show 'em my link DA - Jons Link
I will see what I can do- in all reality although I know that there will be a lot of 'celebs' at the event. I will be stuck with a bunch of Solicitors (US translation: Lawyers)
Good morning all! Can't wait for Wednesday again! Feel like I'm all talked out about Epi. 1. Is there anything left to say? LOL
DA - I wish I were her since she sleeps most of the day. She is my himalayan named Raya. I call her my 'Raya sunshine'. :)) That picture is my wallpaper on my cellphone. She is sleeping on the chair on our enclosed porch. My kitties are not allowed outside. Was that alot of information or what!... See, this is what happens when I get to talking about my cats.
maven, I've been trying to think of something left to say about episode 1... and I'm all out. I joined the cat club though - see avatar.
Blogger is giving me quite a time here... I think this took about 7 tries to post.
Welcome to the cat club, cattygirl! (I had a strange feeling you were already a member with your username! lol) She is gorgeous! I have 2 others besides my avatar, Pumpkin! (Shadow and Licorice -- notice a color theme name here?)
Gosh, we're reduced to talking about our cats! When's Wednesday going to get here?
So, who besides Passafist (as he mentioned in the previous thread) has watched the video clip for Ep 2 that's been released on ABC's site?
I won't say anything spoilerish, but I just want to say that it is a strange clip in that it doesn't make me look forward to the show. I kept thinking while watching it that there surely must be something more interesting to tease us with.
Blueheron13: I just watched the clip on ABC's site. It is a little strange, isn't it? But it still makes me want to see what's going on there.
Not that I don't love all your cats, but now that we've gotten all those pesky theories out of the way, how about these topics for discussion?
1. Did Kate's shoes REALLY match her dress? I don't think so.
2. Was Ethan cuter as a plumber or a psycho killer?
3. What kind of book club serves coffee & muffins instead of wine & cheese? Not one that I want to be a part of, that's for sure.
4. Fishbiscuits...dolphin safe?
(oh and passafist, put me in the camp that really enjoyed the podcast. i loved your energy and enthusiasm! also love dark angel's comments after his disclaimer that he had not seen the ep)
FYSB:
1. Kate's generic shoes go with any style of dress.
2. Psycho killers always make great plumbers.
3. I would belong to any club that serves food, no matter what kind!
4. Fishbiscuits are dolphin safe! I don't know about tuna safe, though.
hmmmm....good points maven. though i would respond with...
1. shoes, yes, generic enough, though something with a slight heel might have been cuter.
2. i'm willing to overlook a lot of personal flaws for a fella who's handy around the house.
3. good point on the food, though a nice pinot is always welcome
4. dolphin safe - good, but are they south beach compliant?
As for the clip it seems to be setting up this dynamic that sawyer is going to start paying for kates sins. It will be very interesting if Kat never gets shocked and poor sawyer does?!? Hmm.....
Does anybody know when the new producer podcasts show up? will it show up today or tomorrow? I just love Carlton and Damons witty banter.
FYSB:
1. Well, imagine Kate in a slight heel sinking as she walks through the sand! Let's talk practicality here. LOL
2. Agreed...everyone needs a Mr. Fixit!
3. No comment.
4. Wonder how many calories in a fish biscuit. Even captives have to watch their waistlines.
You're so right about the shoes/heels/sand, Maven.
You guys may want to consider "spoilering" your comments on the clips for those who haven't/won't watch them.
FYSB and Maven, you always make my day!
1) If Benry wanted me to feel special, I would have preferred a sparkly wedgy flipflop, which would look good and also walk well in the sand.
2) Ethan creeps me out no matter what he does around the house. I'd just want him to fixit and leave, because he seems like the type that would go thru your undies drawer when you weren't looking.
3) I would serve brie, pate, caviar (the affordble kind, it's not too bad), fruit and spumante if I hosted a bookclub meeting. That's my favorite snack layout for special times.
4) I'm thinking that those fish bisquits might have something more than just fish emulsion in them, like sedation or fertility drugs. Or they could merely be giant Flintstones vitamins for bears.
The wedgy flipflop!!! Of course, the perfect marriage of fashion and comfort for today's unwilling captive.
Good selection of snacks capcom, all tasty and all of which pair nicely with the gorefest at the end of Carrie.
Capcom: LOL Flintstones vitamins for bears!
So, to add to the questions:
What would you like to find out?
That was definitely a purposeful wording of Juliet's question, don't you think?
Passafist,
Haven't heard anything about if there will be a regular broadcast time for the ABC podcast. I'll keep checking back periodically. Those guys are indeed amusing.
Not "What do you want to know?" but "what do you want to find out?"
Maybe a subtle difference, maybe I'm making too much of it (after all, only one more day to LOST), but I was struck by her wording.
sup everybody.....just popping in to say hi. I am going to listen to the podcast and lurk for a while.
Anyone else excited for tomorrow?
Things are slowing down. I've been lurking these past two days. LOST day never comes quick enough.
Oh, and Dennis, I watched epi 1 one more time and I must have been dehydrated because this time I heard Juliette say "Ben" not "red or ed or whatever..." chemo does weird things to your body and brain I guess...
hurry up LOST day!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm excited, but not as much as before the season opener. I think part of it is realizing that it will take a long time to get thorough answers to all the questions we've been speculating about, and part of it is it'll take some time for me to get used to seeing some of our familiar characters in captivity, instead of involved in adventures in middle of the jungle or in the hatch.
Someone commented a while back that it's like each season has it's own feel, almost like a different series. I think that's true.
Also, I'm not sure how to watch Lost and the Detroit Tigers playoff game at the same time!
Blueheron13
it's called DVR..... I love it! got it just for LOST.
Just popping in for a quick hello. Maven, fysb, & capcom: you guys crack me up! I needed that great laugh today.
Hey! Quick question cause I thought of it and you all might know off the top of your head. End of last season...was there an earthquake before the sky went purple? I don't recall the ground shaking, but I could be hitting the pipe...wouldn't be the first time.
isibell - I'm pretty sure there was no earthquake before. I think the pulse itself made things shake (I do rmember things falling off of shelves in the Losties camp).
Can't wait for tomorrow!
Melissa - Yes, there was some shaking, but not as much as there was during the book club meeting. I find that interesting. To me it would stand to reason that there would be more shaking the second time, but there was none (or very little). Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I must file that away for later.
Thanks!
Hey guys,
Just wanted to stick my head in and say "Hi". Just updated the frontpage (F5 it!) and added a link to iTunes. We finally got the feed published in the music store. Didn't Passafist do an awesome job?! Probably left some of you scratching your heads wondering why you every listened to me this summer :)
Two more things:
1. You guys are seriously hilarious.
2. New LOST tomorrow (I've completed avoided spoilers so I'm especially excited!)
Hi all, I know that theories and websites abound on the topic of our favorite show, and I also know that this message board isn't necessarily the place to promote websites, but I just though this was the best spot to announce a new theory I've got about the show. I think it's pretty good. I'm not that great with website-building, but I started a blog today that explains all:
http://lostinshangrila.blogspot.com/
I'd be honored if any of you would pay a visit and tell me what you think!
Amused2bhere...what would I want to find out....hmmmm...I think we have a site with about 5,000 questions on it for those Dharma kooks! Any one will do for me. :-)
But maybe I would ask her about the snow globe effect though.
Tommy...I think it's OK to post that, other people have. We can never have too many places to speculate about Lost! The Shangrila aspect is very pertinent as well, I'll go read your thoughts on it. :-)
TLCM... Hi! I'm glad you're feeling better :)
The American Express "Exclusive" site - Lost and Found, has been updated. There is a new video, and 13 new pictures.
For some reason, the old video and pictures are gone. hmmm.
Anyways, you don't need an AMEX card to see it - it's open to the public now.
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/lostandfound/index
I have posted all the new photos (and the old ones) on my Flickr account: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lostchibbie/sets/72157594322057457/detail/
Nice images Dennis, thanks for sharing! BTW, Lostpedia has some nice shots of Othertown that are large enough to use for wallpapers.
P.S. After seeing your Apollo bar image, I have a sorry request. The Apollo trade did not work out for me. I was supposedly one of the first twenty who signed up, and we first twenty were meant to get one each from a certain person, but it never panned out. I've emailed those in charge of the trades to no avail, have received no response, and there was no happy ending concerning Apollo bars for me (really for my nephews). If anyone has an extra melted one, or an extra empty wrapper, that they don't want or need, I will gladly pay for postage if you would not mind sending one out to an Apollo-less soul. I thought that I would take one last shot and send out this request to the Lost world. Thx. :-(
Haven't been on lately, but I just listened to the podcast. Great job, you two are great. Thanks for that and I'll see you guys back for tomorrow nights discussion. Laters
Is there anybody out there??
By the way admin I love the graphic and thanks again for the link!! WORD UP!
Why is no one coming in teh chat room? It used to be so fun in there during TLE...
*reminisces*
What do you want me to say? :)
HAPPY LOST DAY EVE!!!
(notice the RB caps!!)
Glad to see you all here even if in a smaller less commenting mood! I guess we will be commenting a ton come tomorrow night!!!
WooHoo!!! Lost Day Eve!!!! Be Sure To Drink Your Ovaltine!!!
Peace & Namaste!!
Are people in?
N.I.K - a solid theory and something i didn't ponder. But something I did think about...Jack Kate and Sawyer are the three people of the group that are outwardly curious. Meaning, they are the three people most likely to say "F* it, and what ever they say...I'm going to go where I want." Everyone else seems content to stay near the camp and the beach, which we can kind of see is about as far away from Othervill as you can get.
The Podcast is cool.....nice job Passafist. Couple comments.
I don't think Sara's new guy in Jack's flaskbacks is a spoiler. Spoilers are items derived from sources other than the show. Press releases, magazine articles, stolen scripts, write ups from the script, previews, etc. Something that happened in the show and people didn't catch it shouldn't be a spoiler in my opinion.
I also do not think Sara's new guy is Rodrigo Santoro. The pictures do not look at all similar. I also do not think Sara is an other or on the island.
I do agree that the others used their file info to break Jack. I believe that was the major point of the epi. Breaking Jack down. For what purpose? I'm sure we'll find out.
I also believe the file info is real. Juliett revealed too much personal data that has never been a big focus on the show. Jack never gave them Sara's name, and Juliett clearly says "Sara is happy" at the end of the epi. How did they know her name without the file? Also, how do they know Jack graduated from Columbia a year early, and what his specialty is a surgeon, and how many times he was married. I think the point of TBTP going into that amount of detail was to prove the file is real, but they were also hoping to provoke a reaction. Like "how did these island people get the file."
Capcom,
I have an extra Apollo bar I can send you.. What's your email?
RE: the American Express "Lost And Found" Site
There is also a new video up. I was able to get the last one out of my cache and put it on YouTube, but they've made this one a little harder to get.
If someone else has better kung-fu skills than me, please let me know how to get the FLV.
Thanks!
STEVE!!!!!!!!!
Welcome to the community. Glad to see you've finally joined up!
Goog: Welcome at last to TLC! You and passafist are an awesome team.
Just Checkin Out My New Avatar
Bless you Dennis, my nephews will be thrilled! They just got hooked on Lost this year as they followed my adventures in TLE over the summer.
Email is: geminititan2@yahoo.com
Woohoo!! Steve/Goog, welcome aboard. Looking forward to much more hilarity and whacky hijinks.
FYSB
ps...capcom, i have an extra, let me know if you need another apollo bar
I've got 6 Apollo Bars (I think), if anybody wants one. I'll gladly mail them to the first 6 people who send me an email to thelostexperienceclues@gmail.com.
N.I.K.
You're latest speculations about Jack eventually "joining" the Others...that's what I was thinking. I like your ideas about how Kate and Sawyer are just pawns in the game for Jack. While I want him to be the stand out hero of the Losties, I'm afraid they're (writers/producers) going to take him way the other way. This will mean that one of the other Losties (or one of the new characters we've yet to be introduced to) will have to step up to fill his shoes for awhile.
Last little question before tomorrow's new epi. Why didn't Ben send someone to the cockpit section of the plane? Because they knew the smoke monster would take care of it? Any other thoughts?
ok, completely off topic--->
why is it that everytime I see a Jeep commercial I get a craving for Sprite?
must...resist...sublymonal...messages...
Memphish: I think they only saw two parts of the plane fall. The cockpit section didn't tear off until it was closer to the island, so Ben didn't know there were 3 sections, only 2. Or, perhaps he didn't think there would be survivors in the cockpit.
Hey,
I may be over analyzing this but, I think the Polar Bar cage is an analagee for the TLE ARG. We solved puzzles to get an Apollo Bar, Sawyer solves puzzles to get a Fish Buscuit. TPTB ARE MOCKIN' US!
Dig Y'all Later
Hey Emily,
I been diggin' round in the AMX page, but I ain't found nuttin' yet. But there is that creepy photo of the losties on the beach, wit Benry and some long haired dude is with'em.
Welcome to the TLC Emily.
Morning all... Happy LOST day!!!
Watched "a Tale of Two Cities" again last night... What really gets me is how the Benry said (when he was known as Fenry in S2 finale) "we're the good guys" and yet, at the beginning of S3, the others see the plane fall and instead of wanting to help, they want to observe. Surely the natural human instinct is to help... (has this been said before?)
IEAL
IEAL,
That sort of thing has always bugged me about the "we're the good guys" comment and the rest of the good people stuff. If they are indeed good why not just explain what they are up to and convince via logic the chosen Losties to unite with them. Kidnapping and brainwashing -- I still can't figure out how these things are "good."
This makes me laugh !! WORD!!
Hey,
Happy Lost Day!
Did anyone see Evangeline on Ellen? I see there is a link on lostlinks.net.
Seems to me... I don't think Ellen really likes her. Disappointing interview.
IEAL & Memphish, I agree with both of you. The first episode does not add to their argument of being 'good guys' at all.
I just watched the link in lostfanatic's message. How do things like that get released before the show?
Morning everyone:
FYI: The ratings for the previous week are out: LOST was #4! Pretty good, I think.
1. Grey's Anatomy 22.80
2. CSI 21.51
3. Desperate Housewives 20.96
4. LOST 18.82
5. Dancing with the Stars 18.38
joann,
That video is right from the ABC site.
maven, That is pretty interesting. Especially since Lost is the only show I watch on that list.
There are also two more "Sneak Peeks" posted by the YouTube user (DARKUFO) that lostfanatic referenced above. They are basically 1 minute scenes from tonight's episode.
A new post for "The Glass Ballerina" will be up on this blog at least an hour before the episode starts on the East Coast. We'll have a new post up of storiesofthelost.com by tomorrow morning. Get excited!
Maven,
Thanks for the ratings...I've been wondering but haven't gotten a chance to look into it yet. I hope they can hold onto the top 5...
Just so everyone knows, since I was out of the office for an entire week last week, I'm still playing catch and have been swamped. I'll be around a lot more hopefully next week once things get settled down. I've enjoyed lurking this week, but want to get more plugged in as the season unfolds.
*poof* (for now)
cattygirl: Well, I must be really "with it" because I watch 4/5 of the top five (not CSI)! LOL
Hopefully, LOST will continue to keep up the ratings pace through the season. It's all about "the numbers" for network executives! LOL
Looking forward to the new post later today, Admin (even though you've "poofed").
Good Morning! GREAT podcast, passafist and goog (welcome!)!!
I also wonder how Benry can say, "We're the good guys". I have a problem with labelling people being "good" or "bad" per say anyway. Isn't it your actions that are good or bad?
InEnglandAndLost said...
at the beginning of S3, the others see the plane fall and instead of wanting to help, they want to observe. Surely the natural human instinct is to help... (has this been said before?)
Good point! The others certainly seem "inhumane" (hmmm, not human
?). And if there ever was a person who's human nature was to help others, it's Jack. I will be very disappointed if they brainwash him into becoming "one of them".
trying out new avatar...Hurley is growing up!
http://lostlinks.net/videos/lilly.htm
"CattyGirl said... Did anyone see Evangeline on Ellen? I see there is a link on lostlinks.net."
Thanks cattygirl for the "heads-up" for the lostlink to this :)
'Morning/Afternoon TLC friends. :-)
InEngland, that's a good point about the Others not having any intention of helping the crash survivors. Benry could have told Ethan and Goodwin to help out as much as they can, while they infiltrate as much as possible. Not a very altruistic or humanity-loving spirit in the hearts of the so-called "good" Others. I'm convinced now that Benry's perception of them being good, is strictly relative to whatever pre-Lostie people they were/are sharing the island with (who they think are Bad), and not to the general Golden Rule type viewpoint of what is good and honorable. Or Benry might think that the entire rest of the world outside of their dubious Utopia is bad and tainted, as well. I know that sounds pretty obvious, but I was giving the Others some judgemental slack up to that point. No more.
Thank you FYSB and others, for offering to help me get a Nanite Bar. [XO times infinity!] I've got a candy connection going now. You're all great friends!
BTW Tommy, I ran out to get the "Lost Horizons" book last night for studying and comparison. Even if TPTB have used a lot of the book's plot for the show, I think it's interesting that they wanted to create their own updated version of the story, with modern technology, psychology, culture, etc. It will also be interesting to see if the Others indeed cannot leave the island because they can't leave it's healng or rejuvenating powers. Or like Rose, they just choose not to (accept for the case of Juliet, she sure seems like she would choose to leave if she had the chance).
Maven - exactly! I feel really 'out of it'. ;)
...wondering if 'Heroes' will eventually have some ratings to contend with. I've really enjoyed the first few episodes.
Anyone sticking around for 'The Nine' after Lost?
Back to Lost talk... Any information of the little girl being taken out of the first episode completely? I was just listening to a podcast where they were bringing up some good points about storyline and those scenes being taken out.
Capcom/inengland: Yes, agreed. Wouldn't your first reaction to seeing a plane crash is rush to help (didn't Jack to that right away?)? That's just human nature...Otherville is creepy and their first reaction is to protect themselves, not help others in need. Is is really good vs evil, though? Or self-protection and survival of the fitest? Making sure your way of life is uninterrupted and not influenced by outsiders.
capcom,
It's MYTH
The re-telling of ancient stories in a NEW and improved format
The George Lucas "Star Wars" interview videos were a big tip-off for me:
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=thinbluemime
Cattygirl: FYI: The highest rated new show at #18: "Ugly Betty"! ("Heroes" was #26...one of my new favs, too!) And I am watching "The Nine".
I found this on LostLinks: Interesting article: (Doc Jenson-EW) http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1544476_3_0_,00.html
Cattygirl, I really enjoy Heroes, too! And, yes, definitely sticking around for The Nine to see how it unfolds.
Hi, Maven. I wonder if the others motivation is to protect themselves. How would any plane-crash survivors would be a threat to them? I agree, Otherville is creepy!
Can't wait for tonight!
Yea! I love "Ugly Betty"!
Can't believe I have to wait until Friday to see the episode - enjoy it tonight guys - will be lurking until I see the episode!!!
Good evening!
IEAL
Just a reminder if you want to get your episode comments in for next week podcast I need them by Saturday at 9am (EST). WORD UP!!!!!
Yes, TBM. And Lucas was the biggest "lifter" of them all, which was why the first Star Wars movie got panned by the non-scifi critics as totally unoriginal. I myself loved it, in spite of that.
In my notsohumble opinion, any art that mankind does today at this point in the history of the world, is pretty much all rehashed and inspired from the efforts of those who came before us. As much as I dislike re-makes and so-called "hommage" (i.e. copycat)tributes (think Tarantino) I do sometimes like the idea of an old story getting a new spin ***as long as they call it something else***. E.g., the movie "Lost in Space" did not have anything to do with the essense of the original TV series, and was a bad joke. (IMNSHO) But, I digress as usual. :-)
capcom, Yes
"There Is Nothing New Under the SUN"
(Which might be a good title, for the Sun centric upcoming episodes :)
if karl is a plant wonder if the others know about sawyers lock picking skills (that ep with the gun case) great podcast btw i should hav listerned to it ealrier :P
Pyscouno - I believe they do, and that would be why our poor little Karl was able to pick two locks that fast. (I hate to say it but picking a lock like that takes more than a few seconds, even for someone with mad skills.)
Clever TBM! I really hope that TPTB don't kill off Sun, and that the trailer is as misleading as usual. :-O
Just checking...Shouldn't we be spoilering comments on upcoming eps?
thinbluemime, I loved the Lucas interviews, but where is part 2? I found 1, 3, and 4.
happy Lost day everyone!
Cody'smom: LOL thanks for the link to the Doc Jensen article.
Doc said "...The Lost Experience, the summertime Internet extravaganza ..."
Extravaganza! LOL It was many things, but...
amused2bhere,
I am glad you liked the Lucas clips.
Why no 2nd part?
YouTube has had to remove many videos because of copyright violations.
I pushed my luck to the limit, and posted only the essential Bill Moyer segments that applied to the Lost myth correlations.
I really wanted to post more, but decided not to. The whole Bill Moyers/Joseph Campbell series is excellent, and may be available at your local library or video store. I really wanted to post more :)
Ular, I am watching it on local news now (I'm in NY) Very scary, reminds me of 9/11
Goog, did you notice what Ben said to Michael: "follow that bearing exactly and you will find rescue" Not you will find home or land or civilization, but "rescue". Too carefully worded to be just directions home. I think the Others can leave, but don't have permission, or are being compelled to stay.
there is coverage of the plane crash on every channel in NYC. is it the same in all the other cities?
see ya all laters, enjoy the show!
Goog - Why do you think they Can't leave? Just because the don't doesn't mean they can't. I think that who ever "he" is...the "him" that Benry refers to when he's hold up in the armory, is the resason our Others are still there. I am positive that there has been direct outside contact with the island within at least the last 5 years (and I'm not talkign about food drops or plane crashes) and I think that file Juliet had really did have information about Jack in it, giveing the impression that they have some kind of data connection too. I realise it's very X files but in this case I think it's true, they are not alone.
Ouch...and I promise next time not to get to over excited and spell-check my posts before posting them....sorry.
goog, *** POSSIBLE SPOILERS *****
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The "Island" is in the Underworld. The underworld exist inside the hollow earth. The hollow earth's entrance, from the outside "normal" world, is located at the Antarctic. The "bloody snow globe" and Desmond's circular sailboat trip both allude to being inside a large sphere. More about this on tonight's episode 2 of season 3.
Now the Island is much larger then fans originally expected. In fact, from last weeks show, the island is a land mass approaching the size of a small continent. There are 9 groups of others. It takes a big land plot and many managers to handle the new arrivals to hell.
Are the Losties dead? Quite possibly. Can or will they ever return to the "Land of the Living"? Yes, some will, and many will not. What makes the difference? Luck? Good Looks? Physical Strength?
No. Then what will?
Will Power and the ability to use Intellect to the utmost.
I have some detailed explanations for some of these theories at my blog.
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/
This theory will be vigorously resisted by most Lost fans. The Losties death state, will be disappointing to many, it was to me at first. But being in the underworld is only half of the long Lost journey.
The second half will require the Losties to find their way back home.
The BEST is yet to come!!!
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I Love this Show!!!!!
Thinbluemime - Nice! I like it; As an idea, the way it fits into what we've seen thus far, the weirdness factor, all of it is great. I only have one problem with it. I don't believe that network execs have enough faith in the system to ever let a show with that kind of plot idea make it past them with just an outline. (supposedly what Lost did with its pilot.) Existential is awesome, but not mass marketable. And besides, I seem to recall a promise from one of the producers that everything that was going on was within the realm of reality (which I think makes the whole thing all that much more interesting. No magic or hocus pocus, just the human experience in all it's glory.) This is, however, not to discount anything you said...cause if that really is what's going on...then I'm so in. ;)
For those of you who are interested in posting and discussing spoilers, there's a link on the LoCo homepage for the very awesome LoCo message board. They've created a special thread just for Spoiler Discussions.
New ABC podcast is out. It is audio only, not video. Check it out at:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcast
I haven't listened to it yet, so I don't how spoilerish it may be.
What should we expect to see tonight?
I just listened to ABC's podcast. I don't think that what they revealed (which isn't always 100% right anyway) about last week's and this week's episodes is very spoilerish, but to be safe:
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1. Karl is an Other, but was not a plant - he was actually trying to escape and we'll find out more of his story later this season.
2. Ms. Klugh will appear later this season (so, in other words, she wasn't at the book club meeting).
3. The name of the Stephen King book was not given. The producers said they used a very rare book cover for that particular book.
4. This week's episode will focus on Sun, Jin, and Sayid, plus more on the captivity of Jack, Kate, and Sawyer. The fate of those in the hatch will not be addressed until the third episode.
5. We may find out if Sun was unfaithful.
*****END SPOILER*****
Those were the highlights. They also said that some of the future podcasts would be in video format.
One more thing...about the CD:
The producers cleared up one thing. According to them, the "Downtown" CD was in the wrong case. Juliet "accidentally" put the CD in the Talking Head jewel case.
In other words, it sounds like this was a minor prop goof.
Hey, capcom, isibelle, goog, etc.: My small, simple theory is that the Others do not want to leave the island. They are the "leftovers" from the Dharma Initiative scientists and their families. They've created a hippy-like utopia (remember Dharma started in the 70's), and they are continuing research on their own. Their number one concern is to keep outsiders away, and that is why Benry and the others had that reaction when they saw the plane crashing...they didn't run to help the survivors, but wanted to infiltrate them so they can learn stuff to keep them away. Remember Mr. Friendly (in beard) telling Jack that "this is our island" and don't cross that line. They might be able to leave the island (or large land mass)...and they might from time to time to get "up-to-date" stuff...but they choose to live in their own little world.
Hey all
Happy Lost Day
I know the title of the Stephen King book but I won't post it cause I don't want to spoil it for anyone.
What I did was go to Amazon and searched titles with the letters I seen and found the cove I seen. I think most people have already guessed what it is.
I watched the video on abc looks like tonight is going to be a good episode. Can;t wait till 9:00
But Maven...I think Juliet does want to leave...quite desperately. Thus the 'uplifting' music she played as she tried to buck herself up for the day. (Just the feeling I got from the looks she gave herself in the mirror. I've given myself those looks before.) I know some think that she was upset cause she was maybe breaking up with Benry, but Ethan fixing the plumbing is a very 'honey do' kind of thing. I'm more incline to believe that she had a thing with Ethan rather than Benry. Plus I'm sure that despite any hippy utopia set up (which is possible) they are definitely experimenting on that island. Remember Walt said "They make me take tests." I fully believe that those are Parapsychological tests, at least on Walt...but then again I love parapsychology so.... And the reason they observed rather than helped the survivors...bonus subjects for the experiment. Set up the survivors as the experiment with the others as the control maybe. Or maybe the plain was in that area for a reason. I still don't think it was the electromagnet that brought down the plane. What ever the case the experiments would be useless unless they had someone to share it with. If the Others were truly alone with no outside contact what would be the point?
did any of that make any sense?
ok. just a little over 2 hours left. ill be back around half-hour before the show. see you then.
btw-i feel like every time someone says "benry", i should get a nickel. :)
Wow! Stuff going on! Theories! And I'm out of time! Don't ever change, ya'll! Bye!
Anyone still here? I keep missing you guys!!
No sweetie...we keep missing you.
I love Frogurt...not that your name is in direct refrence or anything.... ;)
Yah. I can't remember the quote either, though I know it was something about them still having free will. I remember when she said it i thought "humm....big brother anyone." It gave me the feeling that there are those in the others that are doing what they are doing because they are being told to, not because they want to. Good little solders are hard to find, and bad ones are easy to kill.
OK, I got the second AMEX video uploaded on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjRZ4R9Jm2Q
The also updated all of the descriptions for all the photos - they are more insightful.
It mentions "Carrie", Karl, and "Otherville" being "on an uncharted magical island deep in a vortex of time and space."
I hope they continue in this direction with the future episodes.
You can see them an the AMEX site until tonight, and also here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lostchibbie/sets/72157594322057457/
Happy Lost Day! See you all later tonight...!
New Post on the frontpage for "The Glass Ballerina"...30 more minutes for the East Coasters!
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