Wednesday, October 11, 2006

THE GLASS BALLERINA - SEASON 3, EPISODE 2


"A daring rescue or a deadly trap. The real adventure is just beginning." (From last week's promo for The Glass Ballerina). Everyone's on edge, waiting to see what will happen next as the Survivors clash with the Others. We were overwhelmed at the response of our commenters last week and can't wait to continue to foster a sense of community throughout the season. You guys rock!

In response to the spoken need for a place to discuss spoilers so that they can be kept out of the comments threads, lostgrrl has started THIS THREAD in the Message Board dedicated to a week by week discussion of upcoming spoilers. If anyone wishes to talk about spoiler info, you can kindly direct them to the Message Board. Hope this helps!

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Midnightstrider said...

First?

isibell said...

Oh I'm so second. and on that note I'm out. See you for descussion tomorrow.

sean said...

third?

Sayid'sgirl said...

I'll just say top 10 cause my poor old eye are having trouble with the verifacation code. :) Happy Lost Day!!

sean said...

24 minutes left.

sean said...

i dont get it. lost is on in 18 minutes. where is everybody?

noblelawyer said...

i'm here

Midnightstrider said...

I'm here as well! Jst working on my chem homework before Lost ;).

sean said...

ok. 12 minutes left.

Rantzman said...

can't wait

sean said...

this sucks. there's nothing to talk about. we pretty much covered everything over the past week.

LockeBox said...

Whoo-hoo! Lost Day is here again! I'm off to grab some dinner whilst watching the show. I'll be back later. Enjoy, guys!

minnesotawriter said...

Checking in from Japan...Enjoy Lost while I'm at work!

Thrasher76 said...

T minus 7 minutes until Lost!!!

Hope everyone is doing well these days since I am at a new job I have no access to a PC like I used to be. I will be on later on tomorrow morning!!

Enjoy the show!

sean said...

i still have 6 mins left according to my clock.

sean said...

i watched the show "30 rock." it wasnt as good as i was hoping it would be.

noblelawyer said...

yeah I didn't think 30 rock lived up to the hype

congested said...

Yes!... I can't wait!.... stupid dancing show, end already!

And thanks for discouraging spoilers in the comments. :) I'll be less scared to read them now, although ABC's ads are bad enough as it is. :/

Megs said...

Oh wow, episode 2 was good. Why does it seem to go by so quickly, leaving me desperate for next week?

sean said...

i was expecting this to be a hotbed of acivity now. ill check back in after the show.
enjoy lost.

noblelawyer said...

so, so far just like the trailer essentially

LockeBox said...

Hey, what was the name of the girl who told Benry about the sailboat? I coughed and missed what Benry said before "I want that boat."

noblelawyer said...

didnt' catch it

SunBruise said...

collean?

noblelawyer said...

SHE DID have an affiar

noblelawyer said...

oh krap

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SunBruise said...

Man everyone is watching it now? it finished for me 15 minutes ago, it was good.

LostFanatic said...

Lockebox, I think they said her name was Connie.

noblelawyer said...

how ccan you have watched it already. it just came on even in east coast time like 15 min. ago!

SunBruise said...

it came on at 9pm here on channel 467 for me, and 10pm on ABC, i watched the earier one.

SunBruise said...

You'll love the end.

noblelawyer said...

what time zone?
I thought it came on at 9pm east coast time, and 8pm central time

SunBruise said...

im east coast, but i a bunch of channels, its on again all day tomorrow for me, :)

LostFanatic said...

Sun's dad's eye skeeves me out.

LockeBox said...

All day tomorrow? Happy Thursday, sunbruise.

noblelawyer said...

well for episode one this blog was rocking and I had a good time. this is boring. bye

LockeBox said...

Yeah, this is kind of dead. I'm hoping it'll pick up after the show. Bye, noble.

LostFanatic said...

Where is everyone? I'm surprised on Lost night it's so quiet here. :-) Guess everyone's really into the show and doesn't want to visit us here on the blog.

SunBruise said...

Well most people are watching the episode, wait for about 30 more minutes then alot more people will come.

LostFanatic said...

Hahaha I love Sawyer! The look on his face as he poured out that water...

OMG, the kiss!!!!

LostFanatic said...

Ahhhh! Comercial again?!?!? Whats up with the million commercial breaks?

LockeBox said...

This episode's quote, IMHO:
"You taste like strawberries."
"You taste like fish biscuits."
"So what do we do now?"
"Well, shortcake..."

LockeBox said...

Nevermind - the Red Sox part was the best.

SunBruise said...

so he is called Ben Linus, I wonder what Jack will have to do to go home.

LostinFrogurt said...

Woah! That was intense! Has anyone else noticed that they've been on the island for SIXTYNINE days?! 69. That's right. I think Sun may just have a miscarriage from all the jumping and shooting and stress.

SunBruise said...

Well I have to go, C-ya people tomorrow!

sean said...

benry linus.

the red sox scene was funny.

Midnightstrider said...

Guys...I think I'm turning into a Skater! This goes against my Jater morals! :S

LostinFrogurt said...

Jater morals? Skater? Feh. I don't even know what a jater moral is. :P

sean said...

and that scene when jin thought sun was on the boat with the others, it reminded me of the scene where the others took walt, and michael was in the water
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megan said...

hii guys!! haha..great episode!!

lostfanatic, i totally agree! sun's dad's eye creeps me out too! everytime he came on screen it was all i could think of.

a few questions..
is sun the one that actually killed the bald guy? because he had her pearls..that's what my mom thought anyway.

i am still so utterly perplexed as to WHYYY the others think it's perfectly okay to tell people to chop rocks, shut up, and stun gun them. seriously. :[ i know we'll find out soon, but ya know..it's irritating to me personally haha.

wow!! the throwback to 2004 was awesome..george dubya and the red sox! haha..that made my night.

ben linus..hmm. interesting. i wonder also what jack will have to do..and i wish we could get an update about michael and walt!
i'm so excited guys..but i KNOW the midseason cliffhanger they leave us with will be insane!
<33

megan said...

lostinfrogurt, i totally agree..all this action can't be good for her baby!

Sage said...

46th lol. Okay people, I know what they're doing having Sun sleep with ANYONE other then Jin. They're trying to cast doubt over who the father of her child is. To quote Dj Dan, SHUTDOWN!

Come on people, the Island is ALL about miracles - Locke walking, Rose suddenly being cured of cancer, Charlie coming back from certain death, and now Sun's pregnant even though Jin shouldn't be ab le to. This is all just smoke and mirrors. Don't worry about it.

LostinFrogurt said...

Sean yeah, kind of like role switching.

megan lostfanatic, Sun's dad's weird eye. I can relate. It was like he was in constant evil-eye-mode!

megan said...

the fact that ben said he's been on the island "his whole life"..does that basically confirm he's part of the DI? or..one of the children originally taken and kept there?

annnd..was that alex talking to kate while she was chopping the rocks? why on earth would they give kate her dress? i still feel there's some sort of ulterior motive there..the specific things they're doing to each person..particularly punishing sawyer for kate's rebellion.

blahh..i just have so much going on in my head about this show..still so many unanswered questions! lol.

Midnightstrider said...

Sun's dad was buddies with TWM, that naturally makes anyone creepy :P.

noblelawyer said...

I think sun's dad had a back up killer knowing that Jin proably couldn't go through with it
the pearls is what makes me think that as the dad was so vengeful

noblelawyer said...

alex ran away with Karl and Karl got caught

Midnightstrider said...

I think he jumped off the balcony himself...

LostinFrogurt said...

Sage - I think that the island cured Jin's infertility. If it was someone off the island, it would have been a little longer than two months now and she would have felt effects before she took the test.

noblelawyer said...

alex is looking for him. they gave kate alex' dress since alex left them

Sage said...

Megan I don't think Sun killed the bald guy because we don't have anything to suggest that Sun was there. He may have held onto the pearl necklace to take it with him to the afterlife. That's my take on it anyway.

megan said...

lol lostinfrogurt..seriously!! my mom and i called it a "wonky eye" haha.

i just don't get juliet. she throws sawyer some water, and next thing you know, she's about to shoot kate. i really wonder about her..and i'm really interested in her relationship with ben.

noblelawyer said...

i think the island also cured jins infertility. I also think Benry may have been born on the island but the most tantalizing part of this episode was Ben saying "yes, why would we stay?"

kenshinfan65 said...

that was an amazing episode but my mom fircken hit a button at the end as soon as ben put the tv on so i have no idea how that scene ened T_T
i guess ill have to get up early and watch on you tube lol
-Tom

sean said...

i think that mr. paik knew that jin didn't have the ba**s to kill jae. so he set it up to make it look like jin figured it out. that way, jae would commit suicide.

ps-there are a lot of megans on this board. im getting confused.
between megan, megs, megs:), missmegs, i cant keep it strait.

LostinFrogurt said...

I think Karl may have been killed.

I think what Benrinus meant by his entire life was that he was born there. Dharma started in the sixties. Two people when they were, say, 16 were put on the island. They did it when they fell in love a couple years later. P-oof- There's Benjamin Henry Linus who would at this time be in his late 30s.

megan said...

noblelawyer..i agree on both posts. i didn't think of sun's dad having a backup killer just in case, and i think he knew jin wouldn't be able to do it. and the idea of alex running away with karl..it didn't even cross my mind! haha..i wondered why she cared, but i didn't even think of them being together.

also, the island is miraculous!! it's done stranger things, frogurt, so i agree. :]

sage..i see what you're saying..perhaps he did kill himself. he seemed to have fallen for sun, so maybe he did want to take them with him. =D

Sage said...

LostinFrogurt, that's what I was trying to say. You said the exact same argument I had when I saw this episode. That's why I said it was smoke and mirrors to have Sun sleep with the bald guy. To try and get people to drop the popular theory that the Island can cure certain medical aillments/disablities.

noblelawyer said...

I am positive Sun's lover didn't kill himself and Sun didn't kill him either. It was Sun's dad, or more likely on of his other hired killers. Sun's dad already knows tha Jin isn't a killer, so he had someone follow Jin to make sure he killed the guy with orders that he finish the guy off should Jin not. The pearls in the guys hand makes me suspect that Dad killed the guy himself

megan said...

haha sorry..megan is quite a popular name!! =D i guess i could have picked something more original lol.

LostinFrogurt said...

Juliet. Oh Juliet. What a mysterious character! I think she will turn out to be the most cold-blooded of all of the Others. She put a gun to Kate and wouldn't hesitate to shoot her without breaking her poker face at all. The way she handled it when Jack nearly flooded the Hydra. She's cold and evil.

Midnightstrider said...

I really like Juliet. Something about her just seems, well, good. She not like the other others. I think she may have a heart ;)

Sage said...

Juilet is scarier then Ben Linus, just because she can stun Sawyer and point a gun with no hesitiation. If Ben and the rest of the Others lived their entire lives on the Island, that leaves one to wonder, how long has the DHARMA initiative been around?

megan said...

i do believe juliet is cold and evil, also. the women seem to be even more so than the men, with the exception of shock-man.

juliet and connie/colleen (not sure which is correct) seem to be much colder..and very conniving. they keep saying they're not the enemy, but HELLO! if i was locked in an underwater cage with ben and juliet treating me so condescendingly, i'd think they were the enemy too. i mean, as creepy as ben is, he spends most of his time watching tv in the control room lol.

Cam794 said...

EH i was sorta dissapointed wit tonights show. Sun/Jin falshback shows always suck. NXT week is suposed to be Locke centric but now we kno that Suns baby is her english teacher's (its either him or Michael) but OMG i was just saying the other day on here about how ANTTHING can happen on LOST and i was right..........lol wen wats his name came down on Jins car it scared me lol i jumped like a foot in da air lol annnnnnnnd it looks like we have another ANYTHING lost moment too. Wen Sun shot ummmmmmmmmm i think here name is Chisty or somthin well Ben said her name once wen she came down the ladder in the Hydra annnnnnd IT LOOKS LIKE FINNALY well be able to get to see that Losties camp again! nxt week and um if any wached da preveiws for nxt week ummmmmmmm y did the hatch bow desmonds pants off?! annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd 1 last thing y was Locke laying on the ground in the preveiws he looked like Jack in the Pilot in the very first sceen (sp?) anyway this is probly gonna b pretty long soo try to bear with me :)

CAM

noblelawyer said...

if the guy didn't care to live without sun he wouldn't have said please and i'm sorry and looked so scared to die. He would have shut his eyes in resolution to die for her if he couldn't live without her. Remember he knew who Jin was. He knew that he was Sun's husband so he thought he was there just for revenge. He didn't know that Jin didn't know about the affair and that he had been sent by Sun's dad on a lie.

Cam794 said...

HOLY CRAP THATS MY LONGEST PST EVR haha

kenshinfan65 said...

juilet will be jacks love interst in my mind so she cant be all bad, right?
she just does what she has to
-Tom

Midnightstrider said...

Kenshinfan - Exactly! She is good, I just know it, and I'm going to stick to it!

megan said...

noble, that's precisely why i thought there must have been someone else in the room. while i originally suspected it could have been sun, who was afraid for her husband to find out, i think they would have made that more clear if that's what they wanted us to believe. pure speculation on my part :)

LostinFrogurt said...

sage refer to my other post about how Benrinus appeared on the island.

LostinFrogurt said...

Cam, no offense but could you mind typing out your posts instead of using txt-talk?

megan said...

i think at some point, juliet will become more rebellious..or perhaps fall for jack and try to help him. but right now, i'm on the fence about juliet..she really creeps me out and seems very cold. however, i'm fully prepared to be wrong! one good thing about LOST is you never know what's going to happen next! :)

Sage said...

cam - that flashback was better then last weeks. The thing about Jin and Sun is that there's so much about their characters that doesn't get conveyed in the present so we get blindsided every time we see a flashback for them. They probably have some of the best flashbacks out of all the survivors.

sean said...

if juliet became jack's love interest, it would create a love-pentagon between benry, juliet, jack, kate and sawyer.

Cam794 said...

and its gonna b hard to say Ben now bcuz ive always known him as Henry haha its sounds silly i kno but........

noblelawyer said...

I KNEW sun was going to shoot connie. Saying she wasnt a killer is true, but she is a survivalist, and does what ever she has to survive. She learned english to get away, she had the maid fired avoid punishment......

Midnightstrider said...

It's obvious Kate is going to choose Sawyer, I have already accepted that ;).

Sage said...

lostinfrogurt - amen about Cam. And where is your post about Benrius (do you remembe the number?)

LostinFrogurt said...

Woooooo! Love pentagon! You know what? Let's put Hurley and the Fishbiscuit in their! Love Septagon!!

megan said...

cam, i'm pretty sure locke was on the ground because that was right after the hatch blew up. he was in there with eko and desmond, so i'm sure it knocked him out. as for desmond, i guess his clothes just blew off from the impact lol..i'm not sure!

as far as jin and sun, i'm sure it was just to plant the seed of doubt in our minds about her baby..we saw she was unfaithful and afraid of her husband, and now we see her asserting herself more..it's just to show the transition.

sean said...

do you think it was a good idea for sun to shot connie? connie said that if sun shot her, then they would become their enemies.

Sage said...

Septagon! LMAO!

Midnightstrider said...

lostinfrogurt - Lol. Well, they did say this season was going to be all about love ;).

noblelawyer said...

when ben said, you didn't bring me soup it reminded me of the matrix, that seen where the one guy, the traitor says to Trinity - you never brought me breakfast, when she was brining food to Neo

kenshinfan65 said...

sean - not nesasaraly, we can all see that by separating jack from kate and sawyer that those too will be more involved with each other and we still dont know about ben-juliet thing remember it was eathan that was working on her house last week
-Tom

Cam794 said...

haha sry or AHEM........SORRY laughs out loud HAHAAHAHAHA yea no problem frogourt and P.S. I LOVE THE DANCING PANDA! hehe

sean said...

Cam794 said...
and its gonna b hard to say Ben now bcuz ive always known him as Henry haha its sounds silly i kno but........

maybe we should just call him ben-gay.
just random thoughts.

LostinFrogurt said...

I think what Benrinus meant by his entire life was that he was born there. Dharma started in the sixties. Two people when they were, say, 16 were put on the island. They did it when they fell in love a couple years later. P-oof- There's Benjamin Henry Linus who would at this time be in his late 30s.

That's it sage.

Sean - I think they meant HER enemy. Their men have been killed by the Losties and they aren't completely bereserker on them.

megan said...

midnight, i think in the short-term, she'll grow closer to sawyer for obvious reasons (aka..they're in cages directly opposite from each other :]).
but i honestly dunno how this love triangle/pentagon/whatever geometric shape will pan out, because i truly believe they're going to shake it up for those three. although if jack goes home..they're home free to be together! haha.

noble, i agree sun is a survivalist. that first scene was there for a reason. :)

Sage said...

Sun did what any person trying to defend hers would do. The Others, who are very patient might I add, would probably come to see that.

noblelawyer said...

I was cheering sun on to shoot Connie. the others are psycho to say that they are not the enemies. If they weren't enemies they would not have kidnapped Claire, with the clear intention to steal her baby and kill her. They would not have tried to kill Charlie. They would not have kidnapped all those tailies.

sean said...

i also doubt that connie is really dead.

LostinFrogurt said...

cam - Yeah whatever, lol is fine just not so.... exessively?

sean - Isn't that a food company or something? I call him BEN henRy lINUS. Benrinus.

Midnightstrider said...

Out for the night guys, don't get to far ahead without me!

megan said...

sean..wasn't sun shooting her an accident? i mean, yeah she had the gun pointed at her, but i thought when the boat started up she kinda jumped and the gun went off. as for the enemy thing..i don't know how they can become more enemy-like unless they just start killing them, which they won't do because they'd rather torture them, it seems. lol.

ben-gay=priceless. lmaoo. =D

sean said...

but the last thing you ever want to do is piss off the others.

Sage said...

Signing off of the comment game for now. I'll try to incorprate some of what you guys said into my next blog.

4815162342nd.blogspot.com

sean said...

ben-gay is a back medicine, i think.

noblelawyer said...

I think they will have Jack betray the other losties, or maybe just sawyer and Kate in order to go home. just like they made Michael betray the other losties. The others get off on psychological torture

Cam794 said...

But in this episode Sawyer/James Ford had some very funny things to say HAHAHA like "I couldnt help myself you just look so damn cute swingin that pickaxe" ahahaahaaha

LostinFrogurt said...

Noble - I think Ethan in particular was psycho.

Sean - definitely. Coleen ws just introduced, she's not going to die so easily.

kenshinfan65 said...

jack?
me and my engish teacher were saying kate
lol
i guess well have to see what happens
-Tom

megan said...

amen noble! these people are PSYCHO! i do not know where they get off saying they're not enemies, when they tried to take claire's baby and kidnapped walt. it's very frustrating..especially because, as some people mentioned earlier, when the plane crashed their first instinct wasn't to help, but rather to infiltrate. that does not signify "good guys" to me.

and no, i don't think connie's dead..i'm sure we'll see the repercussions of that later.

sean said...

noble, or maybe jack will get the chance to betray the losties, like michael. burt jack will turn them down. it would make him look more like a hero.

kenshinfan65 said...

megan - well if they are with dharma they have to make sure theis are good ppl cus they are thrying to make a "perfect society"
-Tom

megan said...

Noble- I'm sure they will have Jack betray them in some way..I'm just not sure how, yet. I really want to see Sayid ambush some people, because honestly, he's great at it. :)

They'll probably use Kate and Sawyer's newfound closeness to provide him with motive to betray them.

Cam794 said...

no no no no Connie is DEFINITLY DEAD i mean did you see the look on her face??? just watch it twomorrow on abc.com/lost

kenshinfan65 said...

megan- thats true didnt think of that

LostinFrogurt said...

I think by them saying they're not the enemy, they mean they're working for a greater power. Maybe they're being forced to do so. Possibly the DI.

Well, I gotta go. I'll be back on Thursday!

PANDA OUT

sean said...

or maybe jack will become romantically linked to juliet in order to spite kate, and maybe even bengay.

kenshinfan65 said...

random thoughts
i want to know more about what pennie is going to do and about the wispers from season 1 that havent been adressed yet T_T

Twinkle said...

PANDA!!!!!

My kid has so missed you at the end of TLE! He kept asking to see your panda.

I haven't watched the episode and need to hit the sack but I couldn't keep myself from stopping in. :-)

megan said...

true..but their attempts to create this "perfect society" are so flawed. a utopian society should not include shock guns! haha. i understand the thought of "well, here are these people in MY territory, stealing my food..blah blah." so, in that respect, the survivors and tailies can seem evil. but, kidnapping people and locking them in cages is NOT utopian. i guess they just don't know any other way..i'm excited to learn more about them.

geez..my posts are long tonight! haha.

sean said...

jeez. i just realized that its already 10:36 and i haven't even had dinner yet. i told myself id only be on TLC for 5-10 minutes, and here i am 36 minutes later.

ill speak toy ou all tomorrow.
great episode.

Cam794 said...

hmmmmmmmmmmm Karl has to be involved wit hthe DI Resistance somehow cuz of Alex askin were he waz buuuuuuuuuuuut she asked Kate buuuuuuuuuuuuuut Kate waznt there when Karl waz there soooooooooooooo...........

noblelawyer said...

I am thinking too more along the lines of a Kate Sawyer betrayal. Jack is noble and had a hero complex, a need to fix others because he can't fix himself. but he was betrayed by his wife and it drove him nuts. The others are not going to get past Jack's hero complex without first making him feel betrayed. Best way to do that I think is for them to show kate betraying Jack for Sawyer, that is why they put Kate and Sawyer together with jack seperate.

kenshinfan65 said...

yeah i guess so
but....i cant think of a good but right now lol
rwar
why do tle set in now time!?
they cant really incorparate it into lost *crys*

congested said...

Hmmm... both Juliet and Ben Lynus have the word "lie" in there names. ;)

megan said...

i have a feeling that we won't be hearing more from penny until after the first six eps and hiatus. i think we're focusing on the immediate aftermath of the hatch explosion/captures in all the separate areas (the sailboat, the losties camp, and the others camp). then after the looong and annoying hiatus, we'll delve back into the outside world part of it. however, since they brought the outside world in tonight with the baseball game, i could be wrong!

jack has basically two ways to go here: (a) not cooperate at all and let his "i'm a hero and i won't leave without my friends" status make him bitter and regret losing his chance to go home. PARTICULARLY if he refuses because of kate and then sees sawyer and kate making out in the cages or something. we'd see his anger come out again!
(b) gets his motivation to betray them and does whatever he needs to do to get home. we saw how michael did what he had to do for his son. granted, jack doesn't have another life in his hands, but he still wants to go home. after seeing the outside world like that..i feel he just MAY do what it takes.

megan said...

lol congested..they are a bunch of liars! :)

and geez..i had no idea i had so much posting in me tonight! haha..i'm actually kinda proud of myself! =D

Cam794 said...

But wen Benryious said to Kate on A Tale of Two Cities "The next (like two or three weeks i think) are going to be unpleasnt" is the rock hitting what he had in mind??? is doesnt look THAT BAD! and WE ONLY GOT TO SEE 2 SCEENS WITH JACK! grrrrrrrrrrrr bu8t i was crackin up wen JKack was laughin that the red sox won the series.......O O O O O!!!!! I JUST REMEMBERED!!! member Jacks dads famous quote "Thats why the sox will never win the series"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i completly forgot!!!

kenshinfan65 said...

omg omg omg hiatus is one of my vocab words that we did today lol
i know random and has NOTHING to do with lost sorry! >.<

noblelawyer said...

Benry = puppetmaster

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Connie wasn't dead - at least not yet. The look on her face was shock at being shot. Looked liked she was shot in the abdomen. The others probably have the medical facitlies to perform surgery and save her.

megan said...

haha cam..and also, when you think back to '04, no one thought they could do it..but the sox did it! that was a nice throwback for me. :)

it's crazy to think it's only been sixty nine days on the island. hmm..almost christmas! haha.

megan said...

lol kenshin! it's a nice word, but signifies a bad, long wait in LOST-world. =D

kenshinfan65 said...

oh yeah thats right
u think the others celabrate x-mas?
that would be quite amusing

Cam794 said...

I dont think Benry is HIM idk y i just dont think he is any1 else agree with me?

Cam794 said...

lol Megan do u end evry post with =D

kenshinfan65 said...

yeah i know that makes me all emo-like
lol
but its better then the evey other week random episode her and there thing they did last year that pissed me off

noblelawyer said...

I think connie is a psychologist. sh eis compassionate as she wants the process or whatever the others are doing to them to be as painless as possible, but if they do not cooperate she has absolutely no problem destroying them.

megan said...

lol that would be amusing..maybe santa can make some present drops. =D

i was surprised ben knew the exact date and number of days they had been there. of course, they have calendars in otherville..i keep thinking how the losties probably lost track of time at some point..and had no idea how long they'd been there.

kenshinfan65 said...

cam- of course ben is "him" do u really think there could be someone else above him...other than maybe TWM or mr hanso himself

Cam794 said...

LOL has anybody watched LOSTed a cartoon version of lost???? if not heres the link http://www.lost-interactive.com/forum/losted.php =D >.< seeeee now u got meee doin it!!!

Kylelane said...

My two cents - Jae killed himself because he knew he had to disappear and he couldn't bear the thought of living without Sun. But the important thing is, Sun doesn't know Jin didn't do it. So many lies and mis-assumptions going around.

This was an intense episode!

Sage said...

had to come back. I thought that Ben wasn't gonna show Jack any proof that the Red Sox won the series. I figured he'd tease jack with the idea that he'd never find out if he didn't cooperate.

If you think about it, if you told a die-hard Red Sox fan who hadn't had any contact with MLB since before 2004, the idea that the Sox could beat the Yankees after being down 3-0 in the ALCS and sweep the world series would probably sound crazy too.

megan said...

ben must be "him"..i really doubt they would incorporate TVM and all the TLE stuff into the show, because they'd have to explain it all over again.

cam-i'm sorry i like to smile!!

noble-i think they all act as though they're highly trained in dealing with prisoners..sometimes in a violent way, sometimes not. they speak to them so condescendingly, like they're children..their attempt at being soothing is really quite creepy.

kenshinfan65 said...

sage-saying that to a yankee fan would do the same thing
i didnt belive it myself when it had happened lol

Cam794 said...

eh kenshin i wont be positive until i hEAR THE WORDS FROM HIM "Hello Jack my name is Ben Lynous and im "HIM" how are you today heres your shot now you can just stab yourself right in the arm it wont hurt.......much"

megan said...

i agree, kyle-sun probably still thinks jin did it..even though he couldn't.

i learn so much here from everybody..there's always a little something i miss and sure enough, someone reminds me! no one else likes LOST the way i do..lol.

kenshinfan65 said...

u just love the big words dont u megan?
lol

noblelawyer said...

Admins - I am thinking you should have east coast and west coast posts for those in eacch time zone to chat during the show and following it. Then a third post for everyone like the next day to talk about the aftermath and everything until the next episode?

megan said...

i mean, in my family no one else likes LOST the way i do..but you guys all understand haha.

noblelawyer said...

Admins - I am thinking you should have east coast and west coast posts for those in eacch time zone to chat during the show and following it. Then a third post for everyone like the next day to talk about the aftermath and everything until the next episode?

kenshinfan65 said...

wow cam that just made my day thanks!
megan- i know what u mean i go up to ppl and im like do u watch lost and i get huh what or yeah i saw it once and didnt get it
and i just relised how bad i am with this show
i through a bf cus i missed the last 3 mins lmao

megan said...

geeez..why are yall picking on me? i speak like i'm educated! and i smile!! sorryyy.

Cam794 said...

ALLRIGHTY EVRY1 time for beddy bies for me! Probly see you or talk with u all tomorrow

GOODNITE THE LOST COMMUNITY BLOG!
Peace and Namaste
:D CAM

kenshinfan65 said...

OMG!!!!!!
fish biskets!!!!!!

kenshinfan65 said...

time for bed
nightz!!!!!

noblelawyer said...

I don't think sun thinks Jin did it. If she did do you really think she could have stayed with him??
She knows that Jin doesn't know because of the way Jin acted that night, and at the funeral her dad said he wasn't going to tell Jin. Sun knows her father. She knows he did it.
Of if she thinks Jin did do it for her father, she knowe he did it on order from her father, and not because Jin's own revenge. If that is the case she did to her lover just as she did to the maid. She didn't want to confess about the ballerina so the maid lost her job.
she didn't want to confess about the affair so her lover lost her life.

megan said...

true. and i know sun feels guilty for what happened, and she knows she loves jin. i'm glad their relationship is getting a little better..i was all happy when they reunited in the water tonight. i'm a sucker for a (semi)happy ending lol.

megan said...

well, guys, i'm out for now..i'm tired. talk to you all later! :]

noblelawyer said...

I mean "lost his life"

noblelawyer said...

o.k. I have a long long long day tomorrow. nighty nite

Sage said...

Kenshinfan - also a yankee fan (well actually a former baseball fan but that's another story) and yes I didn't believe it either as I watched the impossible happen. Maybe the Red Sox had the numbers on their side?

Anyhow it makes better sense to show Jack the tape, but it would have been funny if they didn't. Then again, Lost doesn't do funny like that.

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Read my thoughts on tonight's show there and comment please!

cyberyang said...

Another great episode!
Random thoughts:
-What does the proof of the Red Sox winning the world series mean for Jack?
His dad's favorite quote,"That's why the Red Sox are never gonna win the Series".
I feel that this triggers what Jack felt all along...that he(Jack) is a "Man of Science" and that he has control of his own destiny. Ben knew Jack would react that way...Ben knows that he is in control of Jack.

-The date of November 29th, 2004?
This sort of/kind of destroys my theory that time moves slowly on the island and that more time has passed than they are aware of.

-I believe that Jae jumped from the window. The pearls were his "suicide note" and represented his love and shame for Sun.

Kylelane said...

Theory time:

For a long time I’ve wondered about the whole twins/doubles/ black vs white theme on the show. For a while now, I've been thinking that the others are clones of, or were genetically engineered by, the DI. Evidence:

• Benry says, “I’ve lived on this island my whole life.”
• The Others’ behavior is off – as if they’ve learned to be polite and put on a show of acting civilized, but underneath they lack a real human soul
• The constant reference to missing body parts and hair brushes (which can contain DNA)
• In the armory, Benry said that “god can’t see this place” – maybe because he knows his people aren’t “real”
• Juliet’s statement that “it doesn’t matter who we were, it matters who we are” – as if the Others are like Dharma people 2.0

JSarvary said...

I loved Noble Lawyer's Matrix reference. Jack could be very well compared to Neo, Benry certainly has Cypher's creepiness, and Juliette and Jack definitly look like they might develop a Trinity/Neo like relationship. The Matrix and Lost certainly would attract similar audiences too.

Jae, I believe, was thrown out. One would imagine if you're committing suicide, you'd land face down.

I would bet a lot that the Others are doing something incredibly noble, NOT evil at all, on the island. I believe that when we finally learn what it is, we will support them completely.

Finally, Alex must still be captive of some sort. She was helping them last season during Michael's on island flashbacks. She's certainly a sypathizer though.

Sorry for the length, this is my first post and I wanted to get everything out there.

BarbaraJay said...

Hi, everybody! Good ep. In addition to all that was already mentioned, I was creeped out to see Benry watching the surveillance monitors while Sawyer talked about his plan to take on the guards.

PS--I also think Sun's Dad had someone toss Jae over the balcony.

Sayid'sgirl said...

At first I thought Jae was thrown over the balcony but then after reading some post here the fact he had the pearls in his hand make me think that maybe he did jump not sure.
And I just never could believe before tonight that they had access to the outside world I think I must be the only one somewhat surprised by that.

Codysmom said...

Great episode! As usual, raises more questions than answers.

The others are getting the reaction from Sawyer that they wanted. He must be the easiest of the 3 for them to "play". He loves Kate, but I'm not sure she loves him. If the others got that wrong, it could screw up their plans, which I think could involve getting Jack to do what they want. Wonder what that is? The fact that he is a doctor must have something to do with it. Ethan, their doctor, is dead and they need a new one?

Sayid'sgirl said...

codysmom- hey that's a good thought it never occured to me that maybe they'd want Jack to replace Ethan.
Maybe if he does what they want he won't want to go home.

Kylelane said...

Hi barbarajay - that scene with Benry creeped me out too. The thought of having your every movement monitored is horrifying.

Sayid'sgirl said...

Well it's a little slow right now it's nearly midnight here I think I'll go to bed and peek in tomorrow.
Night all.

n.i.k. said...

Let me just say: what an ending! I'm reeling too much from all the info imparted upon us in the last five minutes. All the intrigue at the boat (especially Colleen getting shot...don't like her much, hopefully she isn't a major player for long!) and the flashback were interesting, but...damn. Ben's full name? He's lived on the island his whole life? Being civil with Jack? Too much to contemplate. Speculation tomorrow. Sleep now. Goodnight.

Administrator said...

I'm with n.i.k.
Too much for tonight...but the last five minutes...wow! I loved it.

noble,
Saw your post. Why not chat in the chatroom connected with our Message Board for real time discussions? I really like keeping the blog as simple as possible. More threads = More complicated. I'll definitely think about your idea though. Since we're only on the 2nd episode, I feel like we're still getting an idea of how this thing will work and I really appreciate suggestions and ideas. I kinda liked the way it worked last week though...comment up to 400-500 and then post a lag alleviation. We'll see where we'll go from here...

LostFanatic said...

Hi again guys.

So Benry's reaction when h found out they had a boat was really interesting. Clearly he had no clue a sailboat existed. Then Juliette's laughing and saying let them sail around in circles went right back to the idea that there is only one way off the island, i.e. when they let Michael go and gave him explicit directions on where to sail to head home.

Also, if Benry didn;t know about the sailboat then does that mean he doesn't know about Desmond. This makes sense since clearly he was an unexpected addition to the island population. It doesn't seem so far fetched that maybe they didn't know he was there. Maybe his hatch buddy didn't want them to know he was there which was why he wouldn't let him leave the hatch?

So what do you guys think Benry is afraid of trgatding them having access to a boat??? And why does he want that boat so badly. You figure if he really needed a boat he never would have given the other boat to Micheal, he would have just killed Michael and Walt and kept the boat for themselves.

Any thoughts on my ramblings guys? Sorry if they are incoherent I'm really sleepy LOL. :-)

Sara said...

I think it's really hard to guess who and what the Others are right now, as such small bits of the island's secret inhabitants are being revealed so slowly to us. There are a few things I feel quite sure of, though:

-Ben is HIM. No one else got to sit in the monitering room, and he was the one who immediately handed out instructions after the crash and was obeyed without question. That's a HIM if I ever saw one.

-Juliet is still his right hand (wo)man. There was definitly some tension between her and the chick who eventually got shot (I couldn't care less what her name is) on the boat, which I thought stemmed from the fact that there is an obvious air of exclusivity around Juliet and Ben. I think it's quite plausible that they were once an item, even married (as much as one can be on a deserted island), and that the personal relationship ran concurrently with their high professional ranking. She's still high in the organization, but they're no longer together... tension city!

- The theme of the season SHOULD be "fish biscuits." I still laught like an idiot every time they say it.

Also, is anyone else excited for next week? Not only do we get to see Hurley again (I've missed you!), and find out about WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HATCH (finally!), but we get Nekkid!Desmond as well. I'm all for Nekkid!Desmond.

cyberyang said...

Some things I found on Benjamin Linus.(well the name Linus):

From Wikipedia,
Linus (in Greek, Linos) may refer to any of three sons of Apollo from Greek mythology.

Actor-Linus Roache did the voice of Romeo in "Shakespeare: The Animated Tales-
Romeo and Juliet". (Juliet and Ben"Romeo"Linus) lol

Anyway,It's time for bed...it's amazing how anything can be connected to LOST if you look hard enough.

Vic said...

Great show! At first I thought Benjamin (Benry) was going to show Jack the orientation film to join the dharma folk. I cant wait for next week's!

MSTK said...

Red Sox win the World Series? Psh. Never going to happen. I bet they forged the video.

maven said...

Well, the west coast is now done! Guess most people will be here tomorrow commenting.

Some thoughts:
1. Ben and Juliette had a relationship: Ben to Juliette, "You never made soup for me." Obviously, their relationship is strained now.
2. Why does Ben want that boat and why didn't he know about it? Did he not know about Kelvin fixing the boat, and Desmond getting to island by that boat?
3. Well, the village they had set up for Michael to see was definitely a decoy.
4. Connie (played by "Trixie" from Deadwood) and Danny (the one who zapped Sawyer) have a relationship. When Connie was getting a group together to get the boat, Danny gave her a kiss.
5. What are Sawyer and Kate working on? There's a set of plans that Danny is looking over. The workers are using pretty primitive tools.
6. There might be something developing between Juliette and Jack. But she also gave Sawyer a "look" when she handed him the canteen.
7. Sawyer kissed Kate to get them to come over so he could try and overtake them and get a gun.
8. Before Sun shoots Connie in the boat: Connie says, "I know you, Sun (wok wun?)(her full name). Despite what you might think, I am not the enemy. WE are not the enemy. If you shoot me, that's exactly what we will become." Good guys/bad guys again.
9. There were animal sounds when Sawyer and Kate were brought back to their cages again. Almost sounded like whales to me?
10. So now we know: Benjamin Linus has lived on the island his whole life. And they do have contact with the outside world. That's how they know so much about the Losties.
11. Definite date of Nov. 29th, 2004. 69 Days on the island.
12. So Ben can send Jack home. He wants Jack to "change your att...perspective." They are trying behavior modification.
13. Last week -- First 5 minutes were awesome. This week -- Last 5 minutes were awesome!

Sorry this is so long. Just had to post some thoughts. (Part II coming up re Sun's flashback)

Joss Wolfe said...

"how long has the DHARMA initiative been around? "

Thats easy: since eight years after the cold war

maven said...

Still really quiet here (know it's late on east coast)!

Re Sun/Jin/Jae/Mr. Paik:

1. Mr. Paik has a problem with his right eye. (TWM has a limp!) They're both flawed.
2. Agreed that Jin didn't kill Jae (obviously, since Jin was in his car when Jae was pushed).
3. Mr. Paik pushed Jae from the balcony.
4. Sun isn't sure if Jin killed her lover or not.
5. Definitely planting the seed that Jae is the father of Sun's baby.

Another thought:
14. Alex is looking for Carl. She tells Kate: "You weren't supposed to be in that cage." Who was? Maybe Alex and Carl were planning an escape.

maven said...

joss wolfe: Dharma Initiative started in 1970.

Joss Wolfe said...

oh and it is definitely colleen not Connie

Cast list shows colleen

maven said...

Well, this is pretty frustrating! Everyone must be sleeping...guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow to discuss Epi. 2. It'll probably help to sleep on it anyway. LOL

Dennis said...

I think I figured out how Juliet/The Others know so much info about Jack/Sun/Etc. I don't think the (DUH DUNN) Hanso Foundation was involved.

We know they have some kind of "contact" with the outside world - at the least they can get TV there. My guess is they must have followed the Crash of Flight 815 on the news. I'm sure a flight with that many people on board would have been a big news story, with profiles and obituaries of the passengers. The info Juliet had on Jack sounds straight out of a news story. They probably interviewed his ex-wife, etc.

See y'all in the morning!

LockeBox said...

Wow, pretty dead in here tonight compared to last week. That's okay, though. There were still some great thoughts, guys. Here are my two cents:

* I don't think anyone else was in the room with Jae. If there was, it certainly wasn't Sun. Paik figured Jae would think Jin wanted revenge and would kill himself if Jin didn't go through with it. Jae had the pearl necklace because Sun wouldn't accept it, and he wanted a token of her in his last moments.
* Sawyer's a sly little devil, but I think Kate will still go for Jack. I think the relationship that will develop between Jack and Juliet will devastate Kate and push her to ultimately choose Sawyer.
* Could we please not get hooked on calling him Benrinus? I just don't like that. Benry's got some spunk, some pizzazz. No offense, lostinfrogurt.
* It's Jin's kid, but didn't TPTB say we won't find out until the very end of LOST?
* Something doesn't seem right about Alex showing up asking about Karl. It seems like a ploy.
* Even after seeing it happen with my own two eyes, hearing the story of how the Sox won the Series still sounds ridiculous.

Good night, TLC!

Fishbiscuits said...

Wow! What an episode. My thoughts:

Contact with the outside world??? WOW!!!! What are the Other's playing at??? What are they doing? What do they want? And why?

I say Jae jumped off the balcony -- he was disgraced. His Japanese honor code thing and not wanting to live sans Sun made him do it.

Sun knows her dad made Jin kill Jae but doesn't know Jin didn't do it and now knows that her dad didn't tell Jin about the affair. The opening segment for me means that she's okay with not getting caught and letting someone else take the fall (so to speak) -- she's a bit of a coward.

I KNEW Jae and Sun slept together last year -- they just didn't show it. The island may or may not be magic but in this case it isn't.

I can't believe Sayid left without going in and rescuing John, Freckles and Sawyer -- I know they were under attack -- but it doesn't seem like him to leave in defeat.

Nice call back whoever it was (i think it was Cam794) to the Red Sox quote from John's father.

More later -- it's late and I have to watch the show again.

ahoymatees said...

I tried to do my homework through all your posts, but didn't see:
-some confirmation of juliette as psychic/telepathic. Reading Carrie, right-place-right-time with Sawyer's "escape" and gun-to-kate, and possibly Jack's escape. She looks a couple steps ahead...
-Colleen: "Hey daddy" and some nuzzle time. Creepy, table for 2? yikes. what is that? any chance we got some patriarchs (and a bitter,juliet)? I know, holey theory, but...

ahoymatees said...

and Cam794... Off-putting fluffy posts with occasional sharp insights, (ahem...red Sox), and surity like this:


"no no no no Connie is DEFINITLY DEAD i mean did you see the look on her face??? just watch it twomorrow on abc.com/lost "

...with an obscure sublymonal/TLE image as her icon? I think we should start listening to ms. buuuuuuuuuuuut uuuuuuuuuuuuum.

ahoymatees said...

dancin with mys ehelf. oh oh ohhh.

Last comment.
Can we verify Sayid was on the plane? I am serious. the thought of him being 'an agent' haunts me.

Dark Angel said...

Hi Guys,

I'm still here but really busy today so I won't be posting. got some good stuff for the podcast though :)

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chucklez3 said...

VOLUNTARILY RE-POSTED BECAUSE OF LANGUAGE....SORRY ADMINS......DIDN'T CATCH MY FOPA THE FIRST TIME. HERE YOU GO.


Forgive me if I don't read all the "back-chat" today......I'm actually planning on attempting to work......maybe.

Anyway......just wanted to say kudos on the new forum and here's a little something I went on a rant about at the Rachel Blake's Refugees forum/chat (it's a little long in size, but not really in monologue---sorry if it's unwanted---just let me know):

FROM CHAT:

Chucklez3: oh and obligatory rant here

Chucklez3: WTF is with this AMEX sh*t????????????

Chucklez3: GRRRRRRRRRRRR

Chucklez3: like the real fans haven't suffered / endured ENOUGH this "OFF-SEASON"

Chucklez3: gimme a break

Chucklez3: makes me feel like "what was the point", if NOW you only have "privies" if you waste credit points applying for an AMEX card!!!!!

Chucklez3: and for what??

Chucklez3: another picture of a 9-year old "phantom girl"???

Chucklez3: please!

Chucklez3: someone slap the "big-wigs" at ABC when you get the chance, would ya?

Chucklez3 bends over, picks up soapbox and tucks firmly under arm

Chucklez3: apologies

6:47 AM


chucklez3 said...
CONTINUED FROM CHAT:



Chucklez3: Next up, "Fun with Punctuation":

Chucklez3: Sun kills an "other"!!!

Chucklez3: Jin: the fisherman / hitman?

Chucklez3: Red Sox won the World Series?????

Chucklez3: Oh wait.........disregard the last one

Chucklez3: Sawyer: "...you taste like strawberries..."

Chucklez3: Kate: "...you taste like fish biscuits..."

Chucklez3: mmm-hmmmmm

Chucklez3: Okay and I'm STILL waiting for a reference to the four-toed statue Sayid, Sun and Jin saw

Chucklez3: I mean, HONESTLY.....if you're seeing that in person........you can't tell me you wouldn't bring it up in conversation while plotting your "TRAP" (however pathetic it was) for the others!!

Chucklez3: EXAMPLE:

Chucklez3: Chucklez, DM and say......hell.....nanny go to search for Hags, Ms O and Lame

Chucklez3: setting: chuck, dm and nanny are on boat.........chuck observes something in the distance.......

Chucklez3: *grabs binoculars.......*

Chucklez3: actual expression! >>> o_O

Chucklez3: hands binoculars to DM............chuck: "dude........what the F@$K is THAT??"......*points toward island*

Chucklez3: DM grabs binoculars......

Chucklez3: DM: "............."

Chucklez3: *hands binoculars back to chuck, walks into cabin, comes back, tossing liquor and bongs over side of boat*

Chucklez3: *nanny continues to smoke in the corner, playing cards with the pink polar bears

Chucklez3: THE END

Chucklez3: *bows*

Chucklez3: this has been a production of "Master-Cheese Theater".

Chucklez3: eh.......

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