Is it going to be as bad as it looks for Sawyer? The promos (HERE, HERE, HERE, and HERE) for this episode have been the most intense to date. Get ready to find out exactly what happens to Sawyer, who it is that Kate confesses she "loves", and maybe some more insight into those mysterious new characters. Get excited, the party is here!
As always, our friend Jeff "Doc" Jensen over at Entertainment Weekly has some interesting things to say about our favorite show.
Wednesday, October 25, 2006
EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF - SEASON 3, EPISODE 4
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If people want to email me (lostchibbie@yahoo.com) their pumpkin photos, I can put them up all up on Flickr in a Lost Pumpkins Set.
I put my photo up there already, but I'm going to try to carve a better one this weekend.
Speaking of Lost and Halloween, last year on some TV show (maybe Martha S.?) a female teacher called in to say that she went to school dressed as the Lost island for Halloween and her students loved it. She took some kind of sandy colored fabric (made into sort of a cone shape or some shape that she could wear) and put craft-store type miniature rocks, palm trees, grass, etc. on it. And I think that she also attached an airplane (or airplane pieces) to it somehow. I forget how she said she added some oceany aspect to it, maybe just painted around the bottom of the "apparel" blue. You could go crazy and attach stuffed polar bears, and dolls representing the Losties on it too. :-)
Great idea Dennis! This is hands-down the best Lost blog in the known universe!
P.S. It would be pretty simple to fashion a flat costume like an Apollo bar! Although one probably wouldn't be able to sit down in it. :-)
Re: Desmond. I know some have speculated that Des' precognition could have pre-existed the hatch implosion, but the question was raised as to why he would not know certain things.
My theory: Perhaps Des was a precog, but the anomoly on the Island suppressed it. Or maybe those shots he was taking suppressed his ability.
Or perhaps those shots were to awaken a latent ability.
Could be?
Amused - I like that thought. Perhaps Ben really did grow up on the island as one of those kids.
Capcom - I think perhaps there may be some truth to the old theory that Walt set fire to the raft with his mind. Locke only guessed he did it, he didn't see it and that maybe the Others did see it and it was then they decided to snatch Walt. I am probably way off, I'm not sure the show will go all firestarter on us. Although precognition is a step in that direction.
Dennis - Don't think for a moment the rest of England actually talks like they do in Footballers Wives. Lol. :)
Isibell - Yes that is a reasonable explenation, I must have missed the discussion before, so thanks for reposting.
Although, the hatch itself was also made of metal and I would have thought the atmosphere would have vented through cracks produced from the implosing long before enough pressure built up to fire a big heavy metal hatch which is being sucked by a magnetic force enough to crush it off in the opposite direction to that force. Now if the suction stopped at the point the key was turned (which I assume is the idea, although wouldn't there be more of the station left?) then I could see the pressure forcing it out, but that would assume that the structure had already contracted enough to build up the kind of atmospheric pressure to make that possible without creating cracks that have vented (enough) atmosphere and I'm pretty sure the kind of pressure capable of firing off said hatch would also have killed any people still inside rather then throwing them out reasonably intact.
Besides which the hatch has air vents right? So unless the magnetic force happened to cut all of those off while at the same time not creating any cracks to the outside while continuing to implode I don't see how the atmosphere could build up. Also was that hatch open? I would have thought it was locked and also air tight itself as it isn't the easiest access point. But air must get in from somewhere and so must have been expelled in those locations too.
It is just a bit too much suspension of disbelief for me. The station implodes and everyone inside just happen to be deposited relatively safely to the outside while the hatch itself goes on a tour of the upper atmosphere and while the rest of the station behaves and stays indoors to apparently continue to implode. I mean the Swan station is not a baloon. Problem is I don't think we have any chance of reproducing the situation in a lab environment. I am just hoping we find out some more info on the situation and then I can stop being frustrated by it.
Dennis! how nice of you to offer. I will go and buy pumpkins tonight, I know my sons will love to carve some. Of course I am going to buy extra just for my Lost collection.
Just remember folks: sharpen your knives first, then be careful out there.
GASP!!!!! I did not know that about how Walt started the fire! To the first raft they built, right? How did I miss that discussion?! Well, there ya have it. That's awesome.
As for the rest of the Swan, I'm thinking, because of the screencap of Charlie and Locke looking down in the hole, that only the area of the magnet (or the apparatus that cultured/used the island magnetism, whatever it was) within the containment wall was the part that imploded. In that shot you can see either the walking tunnels or the airvents up to the area, looking as if they may still lead intact to other parts of the station. I hope that they do, but TPTB probably won't go back there with so much else going on.
Here's the cap: http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=1185&pos=296
Fenris - I'm totally open on this one. The explanation people have given thus far gives me enough satisfaction that I'm willing to go with it. But I'm also trying to deny that an implosion of that size would have created a horrendous noise. Now some of that sound would have been covered by the Electromagnetic Pulse (purple light in the sky) but when everyone was covering their ears it wasn't to protect them from the sound of an explosion (implosion), it was to fend off the high pitched hum apparently associated with EMP. We have heard mention of the purple light in the sky, we have heard talk of the island shaking, but no mention of the implosion sound. On top of all of that, while Lock and Echo were in the main areas of the hatch, Des was underneath it. Of anyone in the hatch, he was the LEAST likely to survive.
So really I have to go with the balloon, cause otherwise I'm going to have to put it in the category with the washer and dryer, and anything more in that category and I'm going to go insane. :)
Good evening all:
The new EW magazine has a feature on Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet). In the article they talk about a scene shooting for a February episode. It's very spoilerish IMHO! But it's in the magazine for anyone interested!
Real Quick, Dark Angel, Conner Macleod is Duncan's older immortal relative. But he is killed by Duncan in Highlander Endgame so that together they have enough power to kill the baddie, so he can't be the "one" with no head! Not to be picky. I was a bigger Highlander fan than anything else in a previous life. Well, that and the transformers of course!!! Laters!!
Peace & Namaste!
Did I miss it, or has FizzBee not weighed in yet with an opinion of this week's ep? FYSB, where are ya?!
I have but one pressing question about the Others...How many toes does Benjamin Linus have on each foot? On my blog, "Lost Lover at Law" (http://lostlovinglawyer.blogspot.com), I've been suggesting that, since Ben has supposedly lived on the island "all his life", and since the Dharma folks only got there in the last 30 years or so (and no offence to Michael Emerson, he's older than that...), maybe Ben is descended from the people who built the broken statue with 4 toes on the foot. Also, did he spend time in the same cell that Jack now occupies? His comments (how Juliet never brought him soup, and how he hates needles) suggest at one time he got the same treatment. I want to be right, just like the time I predicted the Others must have a sub (kidding).
Hi, hurwitzesq! (I'm in L.A., too...Northridge, and went to UCLA) I really think the consensus is that Ben Linus is most likely a child of one of the DI scientists. I think Ben could be about 50.
I don't think he spent time in Jack's cell. That soup line was a dig at Juliet because I think they had a relationship that is pretty strained right now. He probably hates needles because I believe he's the one with a tumor on his spine and those x-rays are his. He's probably been poked and proded with needles and just doesn't like them. I don't think he was a prisoner of the Others. He's obviously someone in charge, although there might be some disagreement between him and Juliet as to how things should be run in Otherville.
dhurwitzesq
Oh my gosh! I can't believe you said that about Ben's toes. The first thing my sister said after Ben said he'd been on the island his whole life was "I want to see his toes."
I also had the same thought that Ben had been in Jack's situation after the soup remark, but no one here seems to go for that.
Hey Maven
Did'nt Jack say the x-ray was of a man about 40? I agree with you about the needles. I think that man has probably been poked and prodded for years.
Hi, sayid'sgirl: I think you're right about Jack saying that. I guess being out in the sun all the time ages you! So let's say he's 40 (maybe mid-forties). That would make his birthdate 1964ish (based on 2004 being the year on the island). That's pre-Dharma Initiative being on the island (which was 1970). I always believed that Ben was a child of one of the Dharma scientists. Maybe that's not so possible. He did not say he was born on the island, but lived there his entire life. He could have been a young child when he came to the island, and doesn't remember growing up anywhere else but the island. So he might have been 6 or so when his DI parents brought him to the island.
I've been thinking that perhaps Jack can "help" the Others while he is there, without actually becomming one of them (unless he falls into the Stockholm Syndrome mentality). While he is there and sees how decrepid their medical facilities are, he may offer to help get them back on their feet (e.g. helping them fix the crash cart -- after all, he has pledged to "First do no harm"), which would also be a good way to do some bargaining as well, and to show the Others an example of what a truly "good" person will do for his fellow man. This theory is completely separate from whatever true reason that they have him there, which might also give him some bargaining strength as well. Just thinkin'.
Nice blog Dhurwitzesq, I'll visit it too from now on. :-)
*******Spoilers*******
Hey everyone!
Well I think this season is moving along nicely this season; lots of new facts have been revealed(A possible SUB!)
However I've noticed a lot of people have been talking about polar bears and being on the islands.
I remember a blurb on the blast door map about the polar bears. It reads, "Stated goal, repatriation accelerated de-territorialization of URSUS MARITIMUS through gene therapy and extreme climate change."
I looked up repatriation and territorialization and they are defined as follows respectively:
"the act of returning to the country of origin" and "To make a territory of; organize as a territory".
Any ideas on this?
Hey Y'all, chew on this,
We got 2 new folks on the beach now right? Where did they come from?
I been figgerin they escaped from the magnet in the hatch during the fracus.
You see the Swan Station was a prison like the Phatom Zone in Superman, where them Dharma fellas kept their experiments locked away. And the hatchlings had to push the button to keep them from breakin out.
The new uns must be casting a spell on the other beachs so they think they been there all along. Now the Dude's got the golf clubs. Where was he in S1? why didn't he claim the clubs then, or at least play in the golf game? I don't think he's a Red Shirt. This is just wrong or just bad scripting!
By the way, do we have names for the new uns yet?
Dig Y'all Later
Totengraber: The two "new" Losties are Paolo and Nikki. Apparently there were some scene that were supposed to be in Epi. 1 or 2 that were cut from the aired version that featured them. They are just some more background Losties that survived during the last 2 seasons that are now getting speaking parts. We're going to learn more about them.
Hey titanicgirl
****my thought on your spoiler****
I'm no expert on definations but to me it sounds like they are trying to naturalize the bears to a tropical climate. That their new territory will be tropical.
****end spoiler****
I'm no expert on spelling either
it should be definition :)
"the sub is back"
from June 2006.
We talked a lot about this at the time, during the ARG, TLEC:
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=5243
Thanks Sayid'sgirl
I thought the same thing, but why would DHARMA want to do that? How could that affect the numbers?
Possibly by the polar bears escaping death due to global warming? This is a big problem right now because the ice they live and hunt on is melting.
Hey Maven, much obliged,
So it's Paolo & Nikki. I'm going back to look in S1, at the plane wreck and the funerals, to see if they show up there. We all know that any strangers that show up with no flashbacks are the enemy!
Somebody check Paolo & Nikkis toes! I reckon they're Magneto Mutants.
Have you all seen the Nobody's Watching Lost You Tube video? Total guy stuff but it's funny.
Kvonhard, that's good and well-put also! I understand those points, I guess that I was just surprised that Kate so easily fell for what Pickett was doing. Although I suppose that she didn't really have the time to think, "Hmm, maybe if I say that I don't love him, he will stop transferring his pain and loss to one of us!" And even if she did, he probably would have kept pounding Sawyer anyway just for the heck of it. :-) He seems a bit like a knuckle-dragger, that one.
On another note, I am really down about the Swan possibly being destroyed throughout the station. Now there's not much chance that we'll get anymore clarification on the wall mural, the blastdoor map, why the blast doors come down during a supply drop, etc. >:-(
Here also is an interesting site on Lost (and other TV), this page is spoiler-free, but on the side menu, you can find a link that is not. This page also suggests things to do during the "break" :-( and Lostie gift-giving ideas (e.g. electronic Connect-Four game)! :-D
http://www.allinfoaboutfamilyscreenscene.com/Lost.html
Wish I could help you, angry. I don't know. Have you checked Lostpedia?
About Pickett and Colleen, his use of the word "wife" stood out to me. A few weeks back we were speculating on the nature of the Other's intimate relationships. Since then TPTB have said they are intentionally made us think we know someone and then reveal something that turns what we think we know on it's head. I suspect that in future episodes the Others are going to seem more and more like everyday folks, blurring the line between "good" and "bad." We'll get explanations for things they did that seem reasonable from their perspective. TPTB set them up as the villians and now seem to be gradually tearing down that perception, and forcing us to identify with members of the Others. How many of us felt some sympathy with Pickett for losing a woman he clearly loved?
Anyway, that leads to some interesting predictions - either some faction of the Others will rise as the new "bad" guys or TPTB will introduce a new element to take that role. Wonder what they'll choose? I would have submitted that idea for the podcast but I watched the episode too late. Anybody else only see it this weekend?
Also, it's interesting that Ben has been on the island his "whole life" while Juliet was a fertility doctor. She probably received that training off island. Are the Others sending their children outside to be educated? If she wasn't born there, how/why did Juliet come to the island? I'm leaning towards Ben having actually been on the island since birth or childhood like he said. That would explain his apparent status among the Others even though they supposedly have no hierarchy. When they make those statements I find hard to believe like that "they decide everything together," I'm forcing myself to take it at face value because that's seemed to work best so far. What do you all think?
As I'm reading all your comments above, my thoughts about Ben's "been here my whole life," Juliet's "this hasn't happened before," Pickett's outrage, and other stuff, the Others are giving off an "innocent" (as in inexperienced with worldly matters and real people) and sheltered vibe now.
Ok, now I feel like I need to defend that innocent/inexperienced comment. For instance, outsiders arrive on their island, they spy on them, discover Claire is pregnant. Because of knowledge they have they are concerned (or something) for her baby. Why didn't they come out of the woods and explain who they were and what the problem was? Why didn't the offer treatment to Claire instead of kidnapping her? (Because then it wouldn't be an exciting TV show.) But really, I mean talk about boundary issues. I mean maybe Sawyer is a prototype for the Others, living alone by their own rules, when the outside comes crashing into them requiring them to expand their idea of relationships and community. Sure they have a folder file full of stuff on Jack, but they don't really know him or they would have known that he would have come if asked (and apologized to).
What looks like evil on their part could all be the reaction of a sheltered community to the intrustion of outsiders. Not like we haven't seen that before.
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I don't know Twinkle, I have not started to feel bad, or have much compassion, for any of the Others yet. And I can't muster up much sympathy for someone who got shot trying to take away someone else's property by trespass and force. If the Others had the brains to use a little fore-thought, Pickett and company might have thought that just maybe, their selfish and negative actions might cause negative consequences in return. But nooooooooo, it's their victims' fault for trying to fight back for their own survival. Which is even more obsurd considering that the Lostaways did not exactly ask to be crashed on Craphole Island with the Others. Any person's pain or death is unfortunate and all, but so far I'm with Mr. Fenris in this vote. The Others take care of their own, and don't care at all what kind of harm or sadness that their actions might cause any people outside of their precious community. Thus far they have shown no sense of empathy or remorse for the plight of anyone but themselves. And they will have to have a whopper of a problem or reason for their behavior for me to excuse their actions up to this point. :-/ Hear that TPTB????
Thanks, Capcom. I haven't made it through all the comments yet. I agree with what you quoted Fenris as saying too. I guess what I'm saying is that their attitude, "The Others take care of their own, and don't care at all what kind of harm or sadness that their actions might cause any people outside of their precious community," is an immature and sheltered one. Nothing will justify what they have done and make it right. But instead of an "evil mastermind" vibe, TPTB seem to be giving us indications that the Others are regular people. In other words they aren't Jeffrey Dahmers but more like Paul Young on Wisteria Lane.
I think my line of thinking may be affected by all the Twilight Zone or Outer Limits I saw. SciFi/Fantasy loves to explore and show how fine the line is between being "normal" and making a horrific mistake. We all are potentially capable of doing terrible things.
BTW, here is an interesting site for some of the more oddball screencaps, and also some normal ones as well. Note the Stephen King-related caption info for our intrepid bunny, they really do like him!
http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/
Hope everyone's having a nice weekend. You too, Mrs.FYSB-Calabash, where ever you are! :-)
Heh, I hear ya! :-) I love those Twilight Zone's too. Some of the most profound ones were where the normal lovely neighbors turned on each other in an instant, once they thought that the aliens or Russians were coming! Then after all was well, they'd be playing bridge and sipping martinis together again.
Just you and me basically here today Twinkle! :-)
Hey I am Lurking, does that count? LOL
ello ALL!!! havnt posted since the ep. aired so here are my thots and discoveries. First off i was watching the promo for next weeks ep. and i kept pausing it over and over and i cought this 1 image of Locke,Sayid and probly Desmundo and it looks like there in the pearl and there taking out on of the tv collums (sp?) and sayid is doin somthin with it. any way about last week. haha i was rite bfore the ep. aired wen we first saw henry looking at the monitors and i posted that it looks like he has glasses on and I WAS RIGHT!! YAY me! so hmmmmmmm lets see.......o yea i was reading somwere that (this is kinda stupid) that wen Benry was took Sawyer to the top of that cliff that sayer was looking into a mirror a GIANT mirror and looking back on the real island. And with him being on it and them making sawyer beleive that there was 2 islands. but he would imeadiatly find that out once he turned around seing how big the island was. Get wat im sayin? but i dont think theyd go trough ALL THAT TROUBLE just to do that. and wen the cameras done panning wen they reveal the island (or wen it stops) look to the far left corner the island looks like it goes on for MILES! at first im thin why wouldnt they of seen The Hydra Island then im lookin at dis sayin WOW. They could be WAY down at the other and of it. too bad Sayid never completed his walk around the island in season 1. But he just HAD to get captured by The french chick........dam it. and on the tv scrren in the promo for nxt ep. that person or watevr it was in the screen behind him (or her) it looks like the equipment behind the compter in THE HATCH! wat evr it is the person looks like he (or her) has an eye patch on??? so any think they kno wat that thing is in the screen? and any1 here?
Cam OUT!
Now that ya posted it counts, TBM. :-D Hey Cam.
Maybe that eye-patched man in the TV is an old pirate from the Blackrock! Later Dudes and Dudettes.
Ok, all caught up, and almost finished carving my Lost Pumpkin for the contest.
Great discussions!
Twinkle, I feel bad that Danny had to lose Colleen, but Colleen brought it on herself, and although I am sorry that the crash cart was broken and wish that Jack would have been able to save her, I am glad that Sun protected herself. Collleen was warned.
As far as Ben living on the island his whole life, says who? Mr Liar Liar PantsOnFire? You know how you tell when he's lying? His lips are moving! I don't believe a word he says.
Here's a theory: what if they take turns being married to one another. Yeah, it was Danny's turn to be married to Colleen now, and maybe Ben was married to Colleen and then Juliet (remember Juliet's snippy remark to Colleen when she interrupted J and Ben?) Isolated communes may need to shake up the gene pool to provide a greater variety of offspring.
Just a thought...
Of course I think Ben and Juliet's turn is over, and that the end came before the book club incident.
I wonder if he's married to someone now, or if they might have been prepping Alex for him.
Ewwwwww!!!!
I think I just creeped myself out.
Just catching up amused2behere umm intersting theory but I think that's probably a bit kinky Lost! I can't see the others as a swinging version of the pilgrim fathers, leaving home for a new land where they are free to swing in peace....
With regards to the Others actions, now I know I am probably the only person in the entire lostiverese that thinks the others will ultimately turn out to be good guys but I think we have to remember that historically the others may have been forced into and extreme survival situation and even now they might be fighting for their survival. In extreme situations behaviour changes, cultural and social boundries disapear and it is possible that the others will do anything to protect themselves, or even that they are still trying to save the world and will let nothing get in the way.
Now don't get me wrong. I still think Pickett's a bit of a jerk, I think the Sawyer thing was understanderble, he's just lost his wife, he doesn't strike me as a particularly intelligent man and he's really angry (even if just at himself, why did I let her go, I should have been there etc).
OK so if they were really good I know the argument was why didn't they just wonder down to the beach, introduce themselves and invite the Losties over for drinks.
The problem is that they can't risk their whole society by integrating all these survivors, many whom are armed and dangerous. They are prepared to take those that are not a threat and will fit in, primarily from the Talies as these apear to be less of a risk (they obviously didn't count on Eko and Ana-Lucia). They couldn't just walk down and invite the good people because obviously the 'bad' people weren't going to just sit there and say 'OK, no problem we'll stay here'. They had to be sneaky and give the impression that they were just a bunch of raggedy hill billies to keep the 'bad'survivors away.
The Fuselage was a bigger problem, 46ish armed people, Clare, being pregnant was a priority as was Walt but the other Fuselage survivors could wait. Of course once they got into the swan station they became a bigger problem, they were then heavily armed.
Now I know Ethan, seemed pretty bad, but was there something so important about Aaron and Walt that his actions were justified? Were they really going to kill Claire, we only have Alex's word on this and did she know. Of course it could be that Ethan's actions were at odds with the other Others, or that he was one of their hard men, I'm not sure.
However there has to be an element of building a story, of misdirection. As has been said, it wouldn't be much of a story if the plane crashed and then the others saved them.
We'll I'm sure you guts will pull by arguments to pieces and I'll be proved wrong but hey ho someone's got to like the Others :)
Anyway I'm off to catch up on Stories of the Lost.
Okay gang the new podcast is up and ready for business. Here's the link!!!
The Lost Community Episode 4
DA: Although I don't think the Others will turn into the good guys of the show, my thoughts are along your lines as well. Time will tell if we're proved right. I'm keeping my eyes out for something/someone else to become the "bad guy" this season as well as more information that makes the Others seem like regular people who make mistakes like the rest of us.
Hi Twinkle If I have my really serious head on, I don't think that the Others will become goody two shoes but I think we will get to understand the reason's for their actions and come to like some of the characters like Juliette, Tom or even Ben. It seems to be general consensus that there is a split in the others and it may be that on one hand we have Ben, Pickett and perhps Tom who will do anything to achieve the aims of the Others (Whatever they are) and on the otherside you have the likes of Juliette and Alex who take a less ruthless and more moral view. I don't think either Ben or Juliette can be described as totally good or totally bad anymore than Jack, or Sawyer or even you or I can. I hope that they will develop as deep complex characters as already Ben and Juliette have become two of my favorite characters.
Passafist Woohoo -it's become somewhat of a Monday night ritual for me to do the ironing whilst listening to the podcast.
Morning all!
Dark Angel: Something you said triggered a thought: "Of course once they got into the swan station they became a bigger problem, they were then heavily armed." It's pretty obvious that the Others had complete knowledge of all the Dharma Stations. Why didn't they use what was in the Swan? Why didn't they take all the arms, food, books, records, washer, dryer, etc? Were they still allowing Desmond to run the station and push the button as part of the continuing experiment? Did they have no idea that the survivors will eventually find it and use the contents? Like you say, the Losties are now armed and a danger to the Others survival. It's just strange that the Others didn't raid the hatch first.
On another note: There was an column in the LA Times today titled "'Criminal Minds' in Hot Pursuit of 'Lost'". The basic premise is that "Criminal Minds" is very close to "Lost" in the ratings (17.l to 16.8). Viewers are getting tired of serialized dramas that leave a lot of questions and require devotion to watching. New series like "The Nine", "Kidnapped", and "Six Degrees" have not done well. Although "Lost" leads in the vital younger demographics, "Criminal Minds" is proof "that not everyone wants to be chained to a dense, character-packed drama that unspools like a Dickensain novel." Are frustrated viewers "fleeing" "Lost"? "The producers of "Lost" realize they're walking a fine line between mapping out the grand fictional world that sophisticated fans expect and delivering the single-episode payoff that will keep casual viewers satisfied. Added Carlton Cuse: "Lost" makes no promises. It's an exercise in delayed gratification."
That's just a short summary of the article.
Hi Maven - Good Point. The others must have known about Desmond and I guess as he served a purpose they left him alone (none of them wanted to push the button!). I think the Losties take over of the hatch caught them by surprise, who would have thought the survivors could have blown open the hatch and thats why they sent in Ben to assess the situation and to casue a rift in the leadership of the Losties.
Of course I realise that this completely ruins my theory that Rousseau is an Other as she led them to the Black Rock to get the TNT (although she didn't know it was for the hatch).
Oh, it's all so confusing.
I like the LA Times article, although I would have thought there is room for both series, there is such a shortage of decent TV these days, it's all reality TV shows. Lost, Prison Break and Torchwood are my little rays of light in the otherwise dull TV world!
Only two more days to Lost!
DA, you made my point. I was not saying that they are a "swinging" bunch, swapping sleeping partners for kicks and giggles, but I was saying that perhaps a culture arose out of necessity that forces them to rotate the pairings. Like you said "historically the others may have been forced into and extreme survival situation and even now they might be fighting for their survival. In extreme situations behaviour changes, cultural and social boundries disapear and it is possible that the others will do anything to protect themselves". And that is my point. They don't like it, but it is necessary for the future of the Other colony.
ok, maybe I'm a little crazy, but it would explain a lot (including Ethan working on Juliet's plumbing, and her little smile at him).
Great podcast, as usual, Steve and Dave! Hope Steve is ok!
I have a question that has been bugging me. Too bad I didn't get it together in time for the podcast. Maybe next time...
Why did Ben tell Locke that he did not push the button and that it was a fake?
Obviously, Ben pushed the button. So he knew that it was not fake. So why try to convince Locke that it was futile? Just to undermine his confidence? He must have known that would make Locke stop pushing the button (knowing how Locke feels about being fooled.) Was it Ben's intent to have the anomaly destroyed? (And this plan backfired when Des showed up with the failsafe key. I wonder what would have happened if Des had not been there...)
So many questions...my head hurts!
hi Maven!
"The producers of "Lost" realize they're walking a fine line between mapping out the grand fictional world that sophisticated fans expect and delivering the single-episode payoff that will keep casual viewers satisfied. Added Carlton Cuse: "Lost" makes no promises. It's an exercise in delayed gratification."
See, it's what we've been saying all along. Lost isn't just great TV. It's also good for our character! :-)
As for Ben, do you think he could have lied about the button to Locke out of pettiness before thinking about the consequences and not because he had a plan?
o o o o i thot that the purple light was an emp too nce cast so far!
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