Wednesday, January 30, 2008

The Beginning of the End - Season 4, Episode 1



Let's take a look at ABC's synopsis...

"Feeling that their rescue is close at hand, the survivors don't know whether to believe Charlie's final message that the people claiming to liberate them are not who they seem to be. The band of friends, family, enemies and strangers must continue to work together against the cruel weather and harsh terrain if they want to stay alive. But as they have discovered during their 70-plus days on the island, danger and mystery loom behind every corner, and those they thought could be trusted may turn against them. Even heroes have secrets..."

Vague enough for you? If we really want to know what's going on we're going to have to do what we do best: Watch, hash, and re-hash everything. In preparation, what are the questions that we should be asking going into this episode? Here's to Season 4!

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jess4ua said...

Okay back

Anthony said...

wow number 2!?! dang

memphish said...

Yay! I can't wait. I'll be doing my normal note taking, but I'm going to try not to post during the commercials. We'll see. My self control isn't the best these days.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Are you kidding, memphish? Posting during the commercials is the best part! ;)

Melissa_Lossa said...

Ha, ha - Mr. Mel might come downstairs at 9, "just to see what's happening." He's hooked!


cue evil laugh.....

jess4ua said...

I am with melissa-lossa ;)
first commercial post

Melissa_Lossa said...

These re-caps seem so ominous when Michael Emerson narrates them.

experimentalfilm! said...

mentioned this in the last post, but i saw a commercial for the oceanic commercial . apparently its supposed to change our lives forever .

...aaaand we'll also see the premiere of the great new series Eli Stone! which critics call:

"intelligent !" --new york times
"riveting!" -- newsweek

...oh abc . love your marketing techniques, i really do .

DeDJeZTeR said...

The way this Clip show is going it almost paints the Others in a sympathetic light. As if the plane crash was doomsday for them and we should have been cheering the Others on this whole time.

DeDJeZTeR said...

P.s. I really like the new look. The green never really looked quite right.

experimentalfilm! said...

is tonight gonna be a flashforward ?

DeDJeZTeR said...

I have heard that it is... but I try not to look at that stuff so I can't be sure

memphish said...

Is it a sign you have a problem when you have 3 different blogger commenting screens up on your computer and you're posting on all of them?

And you've talked me into it ML and Jess. See you at the first commercial. Off to finish the bedtime routine for Kiddo. I bribed him into a slightly earlier bedtime tonight by letting him watch American Gladiators last Monday. I am not above bribery.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Is it just me, or is this Vantage Point game overly complicated?

Watch this show to see this commercial to get this code to go to this web site to see this video....

memphish said...

Can't be any worse than navigating a reef.

Melissa_Lossa said...

memphish, it's good to see that your no-posting resolve lasted a whole 30 minutes. ;)


I had to have my husband navigate the reef. He was tired of me cursing at the computer.

DeDJeZTeR said...

You know I had always thought that Jacob threw his temper tantrum because Locke put the flashligt on him (sort of), but I have come to think he just didn't want locke to tell Ben what he said.

Also does anyone think that Aaron is the next special kid (from him crying at the moment chuck passed) and might somehow play into this season...somehow?

Melissa_Lossa said...

Okay, there is a very confusing weather advisory graphic on my TV right now, but as far as I can tell, my county is under a flood watch, a heavy snow advisory and a winter storm warning.

So, if you don't hear from me after tonight, I'm on the ark.

theendtimesmeter said...

what was the website for the vantage point game?

theendtimesmeter said...

what was the website for the vantage point game?

experimentalfilm! said...

hahahaha melissa

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maven said...

Just peeking in from the west coast! I know you're all in the middle of the re-cap show...20 min. to go for "The Beginning of the End". Have fun all! Will be back later....

DeDJeZTeR said...

that was weird, a double double... lol

And lol Melissa.

jess4ua said...

M-L ROFL! We have wind and rain here, but it is messing with my dish, and I am about to get a little angry.

pgtbeauregard said...

ml,

today we had snow, rain, and sleet all within an hour of each other.

Good weather luck, and stay lost you'all!!!!

pgt

DeDJeZTeR said...

oo815 is the numbers from the commercial

experimentalfilm! said...

oh shoot did i miss the secret vantage point code

Melissa_Lossa said...

looks like the Vantage Point web site is abc.com/SolveThePuzzle.

memphish said...

ML I warned y'all I had self control issues. 12 minutes. Time to make sure Hubby has the Golf Channel on TV#2. Is it inappropriate to lock him in the bedroom?

Melissa_Lossa said...

Everybody be careful - sounds like it's an arctic jungle out there!

Darkaardvark said...

abc.com/solvethepuzzle

but I don't see any place to enter a code, just (redirects to?) an old (I think) page showing links between losties

memphish said...

Anyone's F5 key broken yet?

Ange said...

Darkaardvark: Redirect here http://losttrailers.blogspot.com/ and then enter the code in the top right. Loading loading...

experimentalfilm! said...

go to whatisyourvantagepoint.com and put 000 for the x coordinate and 815 for the y .. mines loading and taking very long .

memphish said...

So would it be a safe bet that the people looking for Desmond know Mrs. Hawking? She should know where he is right?

Ange said...

LOL yeah what EF said...otherwise you'll just be at Dark UFO. LOL I am so excited I copied something wacko!

experimentalfilm! said...

of course everyones entering this code in at this exact moment . another brilliant scheme by TPTB.

well here we go .. see you guys during the commercial breaks !

Sayid'sgirl said...

alright Lets GO!!

Ange said...

EF: It wasn't that great...just a recap thing.

Kyle aka TheBookPolice said...

See ya!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Darkaardvark, there is a banner across the top of the /solvethepuzzle page, and it has the code on it, so what the hell did we have to watch for...lol

Sorry for the typo up top, I missed o.

Memphish, for me its Command-R so those 2 buttons are almost broke.

Starting so I'm out

Melissa_Lossa said...

WTF?!

jess4ua said...

Run Hurley Run!

Sayid'sgirl said...

GO Hurley!

memphish said...

Recognized the Camaro, okay I sort of knew. Action 8 news. How scared were you they were going to shoot?

experimentalfilm! said...

so jack seemed to know about that car... like he knew hurley was inside .

"i'm part of the oceanic six !"
something about him saying that was reallly creepy !

Darkaardvark said...

So... I guess he got that car running. I wonder if he found his dad again?

Poor Hurley.

memphish said...

I'm betting Dad got it running while Hurley was in Australia as a surprise.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Forgot to mention this earlier, Gatekepa over on the message board suggested that maybe The Maxwell Group is another cover for the Others real world operations like Mittelos Bioscience. What does everybody think of that?

Go Hurley... I love that guy.

jess4ua said...

Why is Hurley lying?

Darkaardvark said...

About ALC? Because it reminded him of Libby...

Was that Dave smashing the glass? I didn't catch it. And it reminds me of Patchy.

Hurley needs some Clinozipan (sp. is wrong on that, I know)

DeDJeZTeR said...

So did Danielle take Naomi's bodie or did she get up and walk away... the Island tends to make that happen...lol

experimentalfilm! said...

hurleys flashforward makes me wanna cry .. its so sad that hes feeling these aftereffects.. when he said he wanted to go back to the institution, i almost broke down .

Sayid'sgirl said...

dark
I thought it was Charlie

memphish said...

Ded, I've been guessing that about Maxwell/Mittelos for a while now.

Favorite part -- the cop went to get a doughnut.

So did Hurley hallucinate in the store like at the police station? Are the pills we found on the Christiane 1 his?

And where's Naomi?

Melissa_Lossa said...

I thought it was Charlie in the water in the interrogation room, with his hoodie.

Oh, I teared up a little when Desmond said sorry, brother. Poor Charlie!

memphish said...

It's just so nice to see our friends again.

memphish said...

I agree that was supposed to be Charlie. He's the hoodie boy on the show.

Capcom said...

When Hurley said "REALLY?" to getting back into the looney bin, I laffed so hard my gum flew out of my mouth. I didn't expect him to say that! :-D

Darkaardvark said...

Could be Charlie- I looked back over it (I record it on the computer) and the guy is fully hooded, even over his face... so I don't know. It's not Charlie's traditional hoodie, unless he's pulled it really, really tight.

But it makes sense that that's what Hurley would see.

Sayid'sgirl said...

Sorry dedjezter
I didn't mean to call you dark

memphish said...

Yeeeeeekkkk!!!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Oooooohhhhhhhhh Hurley, please stay away from Jacob and his creepy cabin of doom.

experimentalfilm! said...

lmao for a second i was like OMG its the haitian from heroes !!!

but seriously .. whoa to that whole part . whoawhoahwoa . hurley thinks that guys from what, the others ?

Melissa_Lossa said...

Aw, Sawyer can be such a sweetie when he wants to be.

Hmmm.... and Hurley meets Jacob?

memphish said...

Did everyone notice the blackboard at Santa Rosa? It had a boat and a shark and a beach with palm trees.

memphish said...

Good call EF. That guy's a cross between the Haitian and Yemi.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Yeah - I wonder who that guy is looking for? The other Oceanics? The Others? The Freighter People?

Ange said...

Did he say Matthew Abaddon?

memphish said...

I hope those whispers people at The Fuselage decode all that.

memphish said...

Yes, Ange. A name I believe we are familiar with.

Sayid'sgirl said...

We got one of our clue hunt words. I think most of you knew it was a knew it was a new character.

experimentalfilm! said...

hhaha ... i think there was something written on the wall of that holding room hurley was in ?

omg these flashforwards are so scaryyyyyy !

memphish said...

Where are ML and Jess after they goaded me into commercial posting?

jess4ua said...

EF- No smoking

Darkaardvark said...

Off-the-cuff theory: The evil folks (maybe freighter folks) force the only 6 that end up rescued and not left behind to hold to the story that all the survivors died and they were found in a trench off bali (or wherever that is) but some people are suspicious.

So they're forced to lie about the people they left behind, claiming they were the only survivors... and some people, like that cop, are suspicious.

experimentalfilm! said...

wwhhhhoooooaaoaoaahhhhh ?!!!?!!?!!??!!??!

p.s. how the HELL did naomi get herself up in that tree .

DeDJeZTeR said...

Trippy, Oh TPTB how is it you can be soooooooo damn good?

Melissa_Lossa said...

Okay - that was Christian freakin' Shepherd in Jacob's chair, wasn't it?

memphish said...

My guess is that the 6 steal their way off the Island leaving 815ers and Freighties alike and Freighter people backers are still looking for the Island and harassing the 6.

experimentalfilm! said...

trueee darkaardvark . that makes sense .. plays into the jack "I'm SICK -- of lying !"

memphish said...

Was the person in the chair and in the window the same? And incredibly spry? How reliable is anything Hurley sees at this point?

Melissa_Lossa said...

sorry, memphish :) I was enjoying some peppermint ice cream during the last break.

experimentalfilm! said...

and yes that was DEFINITELY christian shepard !!
but i dont think he's jacob .. idk wHAT that whole house there disappearing there not john lock wtf thing was .

memphish said...

Oh, and in my scenario, they lie that everyone else is dead and give a fake name for Kate so that she isn't in jail. That's my #1 question about Kate being off-Island. Why is she not in jail?

Melissa_Lossa said...

I thought they were two different people, but I could be wrong.

I am almost positive one was Christian, though.


Is anyone else REALLY tired of hearing about Eli Stone?

Darkaardvark said...

I guess it *sorta* looks like Christian Sheperd, but why not Jacob? And Locke pops up.

DeDJeZTeR said...

lol... experimantalfilm!

Sayid'sgirl said...

Well there was my OMG moment I was hoping for.

Melissa_Lossa said...

oh good ef - I'm not crazy!

Sayid'sgirl said...

ooooo!! Didn't think Jack had it in him.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Jack snapped, and its true what they say... you don't stay dead for long on lost.

Melissa_Lossa said...

All right. I give. I'm officially crying!

experimentalfilm! said...

how did that guy see charlie if hes just another one of hurleys visions... and i cant believe jack just theoretically killed locke !!!!!!!

and what did charlie mean by "them"?

and why is charlie so hot ?

jess4ua said...

ml- right there with you ;)

memphish said...

So was Locke looking for Jacob again? Or coincidence? Can't wait to see how Hurley ends up leaving since he thinks the freighter people are bad.

What was with Charlie's face changing when Hurley got to 5?

And where did the bullets go? The gun was loaded in the Dharma pit. Guess Locke isn't so stupid after all.

Darkaardvark said...

Holy crap. Was not expecting Jack to pull the trigger.

This episode rocks.


Where do people stand?

Locke
Hurley
Sayid(?)
Kate (went against Jack)

-------

Jack
Sun
Jin
Claire, probably
Bernard/Rose?

I don't know who it seems like Sawyer is siding with.


Question: In my mind, it's almost inevitable that they are going to 'go back'. Probably not this season. Will it be in flashforwards or will the series fastforward to that point when we reach a point such that the storyline allows it?

So many questions.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Charlie IS much cuter in the future. :) And just as snarky.

experimentalfilm! said...

charlies face changed memphish ? how ?

memphish said...

So is that mental patient in on it? Whatever it might be.

DeDJeZTeR said...

My guess experimental is that, he is a vision, like Dady Shepard on the island, those in the right state of mind will see.

And by them I think he meant the ones the other five of the Oceanic 6... of which we know three... its like counting Cylons... lol

memphish said...

Right when he said 5 EF, it looked like the mental patient, not Charlie. The patient that told Hurley Charlie was there.

Totally sick of Eli Stone. Haven't they learned this is not the way to sell LOST fans?

Sayid'sgirl said...

I can't believe it's almost over already. :(

Melissa_Lossa said...

oh ded, you're right - the Oceanic 6, the final 5... how will I keep it all straight?

DeDJeZTeR said...

Ben asking Jacks permission was poetry...pure poetry.

so now we have
The Losties
The Lostaways
The Others
and The freights

this is gonna get twisted.
And twisted you shall recieve ten fold.

Did he just bail out... was that helicopter spinning out of control and going down?

experimentalfilm! said...

so if hurley went with locke ... then how ......

memphish said...

A nice solid episode.

Did Hurley say "he" wants us to come back?

Sayid'sgirl said...

That was a great episode.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Mem and EF, I dont think it was the mental patiant but more like the drugged out charlie from S01.

Sayid'sgirl said...

I thought he said "it" wants us to come back.

memphish said...

It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out in terms of the things we know in the future and the things we're seeing on Island. I think it's going to be a pretty fine line. I wonder how long they are going to drag out "the secret" of the Oceanic 6. I don't think I'm going to have a ton of patience to wait for it.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Memphish,

I am pretty sure he said "It wants us to come back. Maybe Jacob is an apirition, in the form of the island taking form.

memphish said...

Sayid's Girl, I thought he said "he" and then "it." Guess I'll need to watch it again. :D

Sayid'sgirl said...

EF
I was thinking the same thing "if Hurley went with Locke" then how
Guess we assumed wrong.

memphish said...

What a lame promo. All that was from the trailer from December.

memphish said...

Do we think Naomi's sister will ever show up? Sounded a lot like Juliet and her sister.

Darkaardvark said...

"I don't think we did the right thing, Jack. I think it wants us to come back."

"Hurley..."

"It's going to do everything it can."

"We're never going back!"

The exact quote, if anyone cares.

DeDJeZTeR said...

EF and SG,

Don't pick sides just yet, the way that ep kept twisting things up who knows what might happen. It could be that Locke has the right idea but fails to execute it the proper way, then Jack does something that does something that... oh I don't know but I'm sure you understand what I'm saying... I hope.

memphish said...

So Sawyer went with Locke because of their ties to The Brig? Also I guess he thinks he has nothing to live for now that the real Sawyer is dead. May as well stay on Island.

Did anyone notice any clues as to the date of the flash?

DeDJeZTeR said...

Not that I saw Memphish but thats what second and third viewings are for... lol

memphish said...

Thanks DarkAardvark. Looks like I need to get my ears checked.

So what about Hurley and Jacob? Do we think we'll see more there before Hurley leaves? Will Hurley tell Locke what he saw/thought he saw? And was it even really there? I'm really unsure of what from Hurley's times by himself to believe.

Sayid'sgirl said...

I follow you ded
And you're right you never know which way this show will turn.
I'm guessing this before Jack starts popping pills.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Indeed Sayid'sgirl, he barely even put any vodka in his screwdriver. He clearly isnt where Hurley is (mindset wise) yet.

Darkaardvark said...

My opinion on the cabin scene:

Jacob in the chair, not Christian Sheperd.

Locke went back to find Jacob, and did so, after attacking Naomi. Odd part is that Hurley sees Jacob. Maybe Jacob made himself more visible?

So Hurley stumbles upon the cabin, and John Locke pops up at him, either to surprise a possible intruder or just to see who was there.

Hurley stumbles around outside, gets disoriented in the dark, and Locke comes out to find him fallen over.

Sayid'sgirl said...

So do you think who ever is in the coffin couldn't take it anymore and killed themselves.

Kyle aka TheBookPolice said...

Thoughts:

-Hurley said "it", and I'm guessing that's in reference to the Island.

-The look that Kate gave to Naomi's wound was odd. I'm not sure if it was supposed to be Kate realizing that Naomi was not describing her injuries realistically to George, or what. But it was odd.

-The people who need Hurley's help, that Charlie was talking about, are the ones left on the Island. And yes, it would appear that the lie they're forced to tell is that they're the only survivors.

-I'll be interested to see how Hurley ends up with the escapees.

-I am bitter that ABC is making me watch this crap just to see the Oceanic commercial.

-No way in hell Matthew Abaddon works for Oceanic.

Lost 2010 said...

So, I guess it's not that Jack's bunch makes it back and Locke's doesn't. Unless Jack gets most of his bunch killed, huh? Because he had quite a few more than 6 standing with him - and none of them was Hurley.

I have a feeling it's going to be a little while before anyone gets rescued for real.

Darkaardvark said...

The only disappointing part of the episode: the opening.

Was pretty sure it was Hurley, knew it was a flashforward...

Wouldn't be a *bad* opening but compared to incredible openings for seasons 1 2 and 3, this falls flat. Season 2's opening is still one of my favorite scenes of all time, the way the dynamite blast coincides with Desmond shooting up the meds... just awesome.

So, not a bad opening, but not comparable to other season opening scenes.

memphish said...

I'm very interested to see how we get from 30+ to 6. You'd have to think some random sock gets off wouldn't you? Interesting that Rose threw in her lot with Jack instead of Locke. Guess she'll Live Together after all.

memphish said...

I agree DAA. Also it was only about 3 minutes long, and it showed us Jack too. It definitely lacked the focus S2 and S3 gave us.

Sayid'sgirl said...

I was thinking it was Christian in the chair and Jacob looked out the window.
But now that I think about it, it could be Jacob in the chair and someone else looking out the window. I don't think it was Locke.
It still doesn't explain how Hurley possibly seen Jacob.

Darkaardvark said...

I was going to post saying 'no way that heli was going down, you viewed it wrong' but on closer viewing, it definitely could be spiraling out of control. Not 100% that it is, but it could be, from the looks of it, unless it's doing a weird banking turn.

Am I talking too much? I should slow down...

Kyle aka TheBookPolice said...

darkaardvark, I agree. The open wasn't mind-blowing. I hope we won't be able to peg the flash-forwards by the blatant inclusion of two or more escapees, right from the first scene.

What is Rousseau's deal??

Melissa_Lossa said...

Maybe the freighter people will just come by and kill off all of the red shirts.


I just re-watched a couple of key scenes and that is absolutely Christian in Jacob's chair. Is it Locke that pops up at the window? If so, how did he manage to meet up with the beach group, get the whole story on Charlie, get to the cabin and find Hurley so fast?

I doesn't Locke seem awfully spry considering he was gutshot just a few hours ago?

Ange said...

DocArtz has some cabin caps up.

memphish said...

Remember Rousseau said in TTLG she didn't want to leave. I'd say her priority right now is Alex and Alex alone. She's going to bide her time and "run, hide or die" as she sees fit.

memphish said...

ML, I assume Hurley told him about Charlie.

Ange said...

Eye= Tom aka Mr. Friendly?

DeDJeZTeR said...

DAA,

I was thinking the same thing about the banking turn possibly to make it easieer to jump, but knowing what we know about flying transportation and this Island. My guess as before is that it was going down.

memphish said...

Well, it's definitely a man in a suit and a tie in the chair. And he has white sneakers. Christian Shephard it is!!!

The eye looks like Mikhail to me.

I hate the pop-ups on Doc Arzt's site.

Melissa_Lossa said...

I'm wondering if the flash forwards will be more subtle after this. Maybe they didn't bother hiding the fact that this was the future because TPTB figured we'd all expect it anyway.

I mean really, how mad would we have been if this episode had been flashbacks about Hurley's teenage angst or something? After last season's bombshell, they had to carry it on in this episode.

experimentalfilm! said...

i agree about the opening .. but overall i think the episode was better than all the other season-starter episodes .

scoutpost said...

Popping in to say Hi! Can't read comments yet since ya'll are ahead of me in the show. It just got to the part where Hurley is in the mental institution and the "lawyer" from Oceanic shows up. My first thought was "Oh my gosh it's the Haitian!"-
anyone else think the same thing? LOL

Kyle aka TheBookPolice said...

Yeah, I know that. But she's still prevaricating. Still holding back what she knows. There's no way that she couldn't have figured out the fake trail. And I'm still not convinced, in the condition Naomi was in, that she'd have had the strength or time to leave a false trail.

Melissa_Lossa said...

If the eye was Mikhail, I will just die - that man is like a freaking Terminator!


Hands down, the best line tonight was Ben: "Jack, with your permission, I'd like to go with John."

experimentalfilm! said...

are we gonna know if its a flashforward or flashback ? do you think it'll be that obvious ?

memphish said...

Come on ML. Don't you want Hurley's fat camp flashback?

Melissa_Lossa said...

memphish - I bet you're right. Locke and Hurley must have talked, and they just cut it out. Just struck me as off.

memphish said...

I would be so happy if it was Patchy McEyepatch. He's my favorite Other.

Agree about Naomi Kyle. How did she have time to do that and no one but Ben noticed? Not even Danielle.

And how did she climb that tree? And then what? I guess she just wanted to get away thinking they were all trying to kill her?

Darkaardvark said...

I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation where, knowing that there could be a flashforward, we would be unable to tell at least pretty quickly. I don't want to be kept in the dark for too long on future flashes. I think it takes away from theorizing (or at least requires a rewatch, which while good, is not practical for all casual viewers).


My guess is that we won't be seeing flashbacks from the Oceanic 6 any time soon. I would expect flashbacks from Rousseau, Juliet, Ben. I think that's how we'll tell, at least initially. Of course, 8 episodes is not a whole lot of time.

Kyle aka TheBookPolice said...

I'm gonna take a computer break. Good episode! I hope the Oceanic deal is worth this very boring show.

--prime stash saved--

Melissa_Lossa said...

Hey, I like a good fat camp story as much as the next girl, but to quote Hurley himself, "now I want some frickin' answers!"

Sayid'sgirl said...

Blogger just blinked out on me. I have to repost.
memphish
I guess I should have stuck with my gut. So I'm going to stay with Jacob is who was looking out the window.
Also I think Locke went there for guidance.

experimentalfilm! said...

lets hope, dark .

omg i dont care about eli stone . let me see the oceanic thing already .

jess4ua said...

Woah - Def CS in the chair, and I think the eye is Patchy, kinda ironic if it is. LOL

jess4ua said...

EF - It is very difficult to watch Eli Stone coming of of THAT LOST!

Melissa_Lossa said...

Unlike the final 5 cylons, I don't think that they're going to keep the Oceanic 6 under wraps for too long.

I just don't think that there's much to be gained story-wise from making us wait. We already know from tonight that only six people make it back to civilization, so I think we'll find out soon who the other three are.

And I agree with dark - I'd rather know up front what time we're looking at and just wonder about what's going on, now when it's going on.

Sayid'sgirl said...

I finally turned it off. I wasn't really watching it just listening sort of. It was still anoying. I can get any Oceanic new from you guys.

Melissa_Lossa said...

I kind of like seeing the losties together off the island. It's interesting to see how surgeon Jack and patient Hurley relate to each other, as opposed to island Jack and Hurley.

DeDJeZTeR said...

This is the opposite of the good time lag, where you look at the time and go "Oh god I can't believe there is a half hour left." It should be said with a sigh of discontent.

Isn't this just Ally McBeal, but with a brain tumor?

Melissa_Lossa said...

I'm sick of Eli Stone already. I just set it to DVR - I'll scan through and watch Oceanic tomorrow.

JGZ350 said...

What is up Loco's? Trying to catch up on the comments. A very solid episode and great way to start S4 off, but I will agree with those who were not impressed with the opening. I was expecting something a little more on the lines of the S3 opening. I guess it's safe to say that this flash foward was before the S3 season finales flash forward, based on the amount of vodka Jack poured in his little screwdriver. The scene with Hurley bumping into Jacob's shack was quite interesting. Does Hurley have the same connection to the Island Locke has? It's clear that he saw whoever it was in Jacob's shack. The scene with Hurley telling Claire that Charley had gone to a better place was very well done by Jorge Garcia. I am still trying to wrap my brain around some of the ideas I have. I must watch the premiere again. Memphish, I couldn't agree with you more, it is so good to see our friends again.

memphish said...

I'm sure it will be in the last set of commercials like the Hanso ads always were.

Melissa_Lossa said...

How mad would Locke AND Ben be if it turned out that Hurley had the strongest connection with the island? :)

memphish said...

I wonder if Hurley was given a vision of Christian so that he would be there to comfort Claire, Christian's daughter? And if it was Mikhail's eye, well Mikhail was the one responsible for Charlie's death. Kind of a good cop/bad cop for Claire.

memphish said...

Well maybe bad cop/worse cop.

Sayid'sgirl said...

I wonder why Christian is in Jacobs cabin? He looked kind of out of it.

Capcom said...

Hey JGZ!

Melissa_Lossa said...

The weirdest thing about Christian, is why would Hurley see him? Why manifest a vision as someone that Hurley has never met?

Amused2bHere said...

Amazing. Did not disappoint.

I've got to watch that again.

Go Hugo!

DeDJeZTeR said...

What if Xtian was there as a sign to Hugo to go with Jack, but Since Hurly doesn't know Xtian he doesn't get the hint.

JGZ350 said...

What is up capcom? It is so good to be back here at Loco's! I am sure there will be other LOST Loco's making cameo's today and tomorrow. Okay, I know this is kind of crazy to ask, but I'm going to ask it. With what we know right now about LOST, who would you go with Jack or Locke?

Melissa_Lossa said...

The more I see, the more convinced I am that Christian is some kind of linchpin to the whole story. He's just popped up too much to be coincidence.

Especially after the last mobisode!

DeDJeZTeR said...

I would go with Locke. I don't want to get off the island if I am there, I would go with Locke and be buddy buddy with Ben... lol

JGZ350 said...

Did anyone just see the Oceanic commercial??? They found it???

jess4ua said...

Ha, Sam made it to us after all. LOL

memphish said...

Just saw the Oceanic ad while only having to watch 2 minutes of Eli Stone! Sam hacked it.

Ellen said...

OMG!!! It's Sam!!!

memphish said...

Can anyone get find815 to load?

Sayid'sgirl said...

Oh boo hoo I missed him. Oh well. What did he say?

experimentalfilm! said...

soo... we knew that already, then what does this meannn...

memphish said...

Can't get flyOceanic to load either. Would all of y'all please get off so I can get on? ;-)

Duke said...

time to go to find815.com

Duke said...

i wonder if the ratings for this Eli Stone show will plummet after they aired the oceanic commercial

memphish said...

Do you think any non-LOST watching Eli Stone watchers are hoping to win a Golden Pass?

Melissa_Lossa said...

Sayid's girl - it was an Oceanic ad about getting a golden pass. There were a couple of flashes of Sam - in one, he said "you can't trust these people" and then "flight 815 - we found it." There was a shot of the plane underwater, from the ROV camera in today's game.

JGZ350 said...

Wow, that was an interesting commercial. I just played it back in slow motion, thanks to my DVR, and that cat from find815.com say's that they found it. I'm guessing it is flight 815. What is up with those flight attendants, do they look spooky or what?

Kimber said...

hey memphish all i have is black but it says it is done loading.

Kyle aka TheBookPolice said...

Patch, you haven't been keeping up with Find 815, have you?

Duke said...

i just get a page with some clouds for flyoceanicair.com

Melissa_Lossa said...

All right, kids - I'm off to bed. Got to get up early tomorrow and... shovel snow? paddle through the flood? who knows!

Good night!

Sayid'sgirl said...

Thanks Melissa
I got on the site then it froze up on me.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Duke I have always gotten just that and the 2 links at the bottom, so even if there was something there I would have to wait until someone posted it.

memphish said...

Think I'll turn in too. I hope there's something interesting and new at find815 now. For those of you who didn't play along, try Lostpedia for a quick summary. Of course, Sam gave the quick summary in the commercial. Wreckage of Flight 815 has been found. Timeline issues abound.

Capcom said...

Well, my friggin local ABC station must have dubbed over the Oceanic ad with the local ones, as usual, so I missed it! Krikey! Well, that show wasn't so bad. I liked the Sherpas(sp?). And the subject matter was good.

Ellen said...

all I get at flyoceanic are two choices, download press release and privacy policy, no graphics....:(

Amused2bHere said...

oooookay. Find815.com gives me a black screen with a red box. Inside the box it reads: "Find815 is missing critical content and cannot be displayed at this time. We hope to resolve the issue shortly and apologise for any inconvenience."

DeDJeZTeR said...

The ROV POV showed us better shots than the game... lol... we defintely got Ralphied this afternoon...lol

scoutpost said...

Ok just finished, now to catch up on comments. At least it gives me something decent to do while Eli Stone is on. How long in before the commercial? I have a feeling they're going to make us wait a looong time.


My LOST prediction- Hurley will commit suicide and that is what sends Jack into his downward spiral that we saw at the end of S3.

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