When Jack's health is seriously compromised, Kate and Juliet must learn to work together in order to save him. It doesn't seem like there's much nice going down on the island, I wonder what is so nice back home?
Thursday, May 01, 2008
Something Nice Back Home - Season 4, Episode 10
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 414 Newer› Newest»On my thought about if Kate has seen anyone like Jack and Hurley. It could be Claire. Not that I'm saying she's dead but she could be. And even if she's not it could be like a Walt and Locke thing.
I'm thinking that she probably hasn't seen anyone which is why she doesn't want to go back.
I like Doc's (and other's) theory that maybe we have a Ghost Claire (who actually died in the house blast). Miles definitely was acting strangely around Claire, and we know how he is around dead people. Which is why Miles also saw Christian. And why would Claire ever leave Aaron behind (especially as a nursing mother)? She seemed willing to go off with Christian (to Jacob's cabin?).
But if Aaron is so crucial to the island, why was he left behind and eventually joining the O6 off-island? Why didn't Christian take him took, too? Was it because Claire was a Ghost and Aaron was still alive?
maven said:
But if Aaron is so crucial to the island, why was he left behind and eventually joining the O6 off-island? Why didn't Christian take him took, too? Was it because Claire was a Ghost and Aaron was still alive?
I like the thought that Christian came and got her because she was dead.
Here's my dilemma. Should I give up and allow myself to read the ABC press releases for the next week's episode (without guilt, since I peeked a little at the release for next week), or should I consider them spoilery?
ABC has a way of ruining the show for you ahead of time Kyle -- think Cindy at the cages.
Humm Good qestion Kyle. How strong is your spoiler meter? ABC tends to give away a little more than I think TPTB would like them to.
1. I thought it was ironic that jack is who messed up things after the proposal, when its usually kate that runs from commitment
2. odd that the same decorations from santa rosa from 4x1 were on kates fridge, is hurley who she was talking to
3. Even after all the stuff weve seen, jack throwing it in kates face that he saved her leads me to think its something we havent seen
4. Seems weird that rose is freaked that Jack is sick considering, she couldnt get helped by the faith healer in australia, different frequencies, or maybe the island being dissatisfied with jacks descisions
5. If jacob is making the calls of what ben should do to get his preferred outcome, wouldnt jacob have to be privvy to how things play out, that makes me think that jack may be jacob,plus the rm 23 video in reverse saying jack is jacob, Maybe he has to leave the island and age in real time so that when he goes back to the island he could judge the best way to change things.
6. the scene at the end where horace goodspeed tells locke hes been dead for 12 years seems to jive with our thoughts that Ben was indeed tight with horace, maybe death on the island is a good thing, in that you live forever on the island, the way miles seemed to genuinly communicate with karl and roussea seems to show that all the whispers on the island are people that have died there doing there best impression of a greek chorus. Perhaps a clue to why jack had to bring christains body to the island and why regina jumped ship
7. could keamy be trying to eliminate everyone on the island,as i mentioned the other day, to protect widmores island and especially his timeline, since people on the island if they ever happened to escape would manifest some kind of precog skillz
8. Was the doctor that gave jack his first benzodiazpines the same doctor from the NY hospital that treated mike after his accident
9. whats the meaning of jacks new back tattoo
10. if kate was doing something for sawyer who was she talking to on the phone, she seemed to have an affection for jack's dad, did they ever find out hes aarons granpa. The way she told jack to leave it alone was just like his ex told him to leave it alone
11. Is jack strating to become unstuck in time post-island
12. obviously charlie has visited hurley more than once, why does hurley think everyone is dead, if its heaven why does hurley care if jack raises aaron, i can only think that claire is still alive on the island and she is the best to raise aaron.
13. if frank is all good with keamy, why is miles afraid hell kill him or is he?
14. is horace rally dead, if so was mikhail dead after the sonic fence and just did all his naomi saving tlg grenading post mortum? Seems strange that horace was around at bens birth, was he recruiting for jacob
I watch a lot of ABC shows during the week, so it's difficult to avoid ABC promos for LOST. I try not to pay attention to them, but it is difficult. But we do know that promos are so manipulative (did they take a lesson from Ben?), so I don't take them as canon.
was the freckage rally fake or did everyone die on the plane, and this is their seconde chance,
aaron may have to leave the island in order to age and do something later
obviously even if the island is making jack sick and wants him off the island, then it still needs him in the future thats why it wont let him kill himself
anyone think it may be sayid in the coffin?
Hey 2costa
Happy Birthday!
You had alot of early Birthday wishes yesterday. Don't know if you seen them.
Happy Birthday, 2Costa!
2Costa: You mention that Jack is the one pulling away from the commitment, unlike past Kate. Maybe becuase Kate's legal troubles are settled she can also now commit to a relationship without any fears of living a lie or getting caught.
Erica, the doctor that gave Jack the Rx did seem very familiar to me. Is it just that I've seen that actress somewhere, or was she involved with another Lostie?
Re your point #12: Aaron just might be the catalyst as to why Jack needs to get back to the island...to bring Aaron back.
I don't think that Frank is "good" with Keamy. He actually seems afraid of him...calling him "sir". I really think the F4 did not sign up for a bloodbath of the people on the island. They are just there for scientific reasons, and, in Frank's case, piloting skills.
There is no reverse audio saying that Jack is Jacob.
I'm not talking about the TV promos, though, Maven. I know those can be a little spoilery, but not in a straight-up kind of way. There's usually a surprise that isn't shown in the commercials.
I mean the press releases via Medianet. Those have detailed cast info, which means that if someone's gonna show up, and he/she's not in the commercials, I've just been spoiled.
2costa said:
12. ...
i can only think that claire is still alive on the island and she is the best to raise aaron.
I like this idea. That's why Jack says they were't suppose to leave and they have to go back. I think he may be including Aaron in that sentence. Because Claire has to be the one to raise Aaron.
anyone think it may be sayid in the coffin?
Bite your tongue! lol :)
happy bday 2costa.
i agree with Maven, i dont think frank wants any part of Keamy and the crusaders. But i think he knows alot of whats going on.
i assume that the innocents on the freighter were desmond and sayid. which is why ben didnt blow up the boat and kill keamy then.
Sorry, Kyle. I assumed press release meant promo! LOL I should know better. Yep, casting news would be a spoiler!
I'm with you guys. I thought Dr. Erica looked familiar too. I thought maybe from another show. Don't know though.
ya i dont know where i heard that jack is jacob thing, i stand corrected, still thisnk it may be jack, especially since he grew his beard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-76SvwAXj4
this reverse audio says jack sheppard is jacob, i know the misfit is usually full of crap, but i remmeber this may have been real
All this talk of dead people is starting to freak me out! And I haven't even read Doc Jensen yet! Oh how chucklez would like this conversation. Could the island be stuck in some kind of inbetween time and space place (NOT purgatory- not even gonna go there) and so all the people who've seen apparitions are really dead, mingling with live people?
In light of what we know now, I'm thinking that in TTLG that Jack is in the same state that Hurley was in in last night's epi, and that Kate's reaction to Jack in TTLG is because she does not fully understand what is going on, like Hurley and Jack do- so she thinks that they are all just going crazy. Just wait til she gets her own undead visitor!
I am thinking along the lines too that Jack knows they have to take Aaron back to the island. And of course that would really freak out any mom (even Kate). It would be neat to see a FF that goes past TTLG.
Well, Lostpedia has Dr. Erica Stevens as just being in last night's episode. I'm sure we've all seen the actress (April Jones) in other things.
i guess it was fake as best as i can see
im starting to think that kate is losing it too in the future, i think she just hides it better than jack or hurley
thanks for the birthday wishes peeps
also startingt o think but hoping not that hurley is in the coffin, although it seems a little small for him, but its not a leap when you see his mindset when jack comes a second time
with charlie and christain doing an apparition tagteam last night i stand by my idea that it was christain and charlie in jacobs cabin in 4x1
what does jin know that we dont, why did he tell charlotte he just wants to get sun and the baby off the island, but didnt include himself in that scenario
if they(others,ghosts) have been waiting for john locke for a long time, maybe they were givin a prophesy that john would kill cooper, why else did they all have that blood lust last season, when locke got sawyer to do it for him
also think its interesting that the smoke didnt seem to kill any of keamys men, seems like 4+frank is all that could have come to the island on the chopper...
probably because you dont want the wrong people dying on the island, ben doesnt want a keamy ghost causing mischief on the island
Happy Birthday 2Costa!
2Costa said:
2. odd that the same decorations from santa rosa from 4x1 were on kates fridge That was weird -- like psychos and 3 year olds have the same artistic abilities
7. could keamy be trying to eliminate everyone on the island,as i mentioned the other day, to protect widmores island and especially his timeline, since people on the island if they ever happened to escape would manifest some kind of precog skillz I agree that Keamy's plan is to take out everyone but himself at Widmore's bidding. I don't know if it's to protect a timeline or prevent precognition though
9. whats the meaning of jacks new back tattoo Don't ask if you don't want another SIASL! :p Probably just a new tat for Matthew Fox.
14. is horace rally dead He says he is.
2Costa also said: with charlie and christain doing an apparition tagteam last night i stand by my idea that it was christain and charlie in jacobs cabin in 4x1 I like it!
Jin knows exactly what we know: that Sun will probably kick the bucket if she doesn't get off-Island to deliver her baby.
New polls up on my blog.
The most interesting one last week was how split people are over Nadia's death.
2Costa also said: with charlie and christain doing an apparition tagteam last night i stand by my idea that it was christain and charlie in jacobs cabin in 4x1
2costa,memphish
I like it too. Maybe that's how Hurley knows where Jacob's cabin is Charlie showed him.
well i cant see why jin doesn't want to go with sun, unless he's got a plan to force the freighter to save sun, by staying back and doing something on the island,like bargain with keamy or or danlottes lives, i also suspect that jin knows he has to pull some of the leader slack, while jack is on the mend. Perhaps jin has put two and two together that charlotte may be working for mr. paik, for all we know his watch had a gps inside.
I keep asking myself who kate was talking to, it wasn't sawyer, she isnt on good terms with her mom as far as we know. Mars is dead. If jensen is right and kate is looking after Clementine for sawyer, then maybe she was talking to cassidy on the phone, one cassidy is clementine's mother and second kate and cassidy got pretty freindly when she helped kate sneak in to meet her mom. The only other person i could possibly think of was nate fillion, her former fiance the cop, which was more along the lines of what jack was thinking...
the reason i was thinking Sayid also could be in the coffin is Nadia lived in La and was killed there so maybe sayid has a place there, but i think mike is still in the running, but i dont know why he'd be having a funeral in L.a., which brings us basck to hurley, but with all out ghost freinds it really doesnt matter who dies anymore
I like the idea that Future Kate might start seeing the Marshal, but, so far people have only seen unburied bodies right?
As for Sun and Jin, Jin wants to make sure Sun gets off. That's the deal breaker to him. Him getting off would be gravy but not a deal breaker. I'm sure we'll see more about how the O6 were selected before the season ends.
Jin knows what we should know. The freighter is not "rescue," but in a pinch it'll have to do.
Why send Sun without accompanying her?
If Jin puts himself in the hands of the freighter folk, he knows he'll be treated as a threat, and likely harmed or killed. At the very least, his ability to communicate (potentially) outside of the understanding of the rest of the freighter folk makes him a security risk.
If Sun's there alone, though, the language issue is eliminated, and they might not harm her given that she's an expectant mother.
Ideally, Jin would go with her, but it would be more dangerous to do so than to send her alone with someone who knows how serious Jin is (Charlotte). Bottom line is that Sun's gotta get off the Island ASAP, and the freighter--while dangerous--is the only option currently presenting itself.
2costa
I think Jin is just thinking about Sun's safety. He wants to be absolutely sure she gets off the island. I don't think it matters to him if he gets off or not as long as she's safe. I'm sure if there was/is a way for him to be with her he would be, but that's not what he's thinking about right now.
Heres two more observations...
1. Jacks new back tatoo seems to have a R on one side and B on the other of a glyph looking aarrowhead, me thinks thats a tribute to rose and bernard, since jack did promise to save everyone and obviouslt that didnt work out.
2. Secondly for the first time that christain has appeared on the island He wasn't dressed in his dark suit with white shoes, rather he looked more like the crocadile hunter, maybe to make aussie clair more at ease, what if that christain that appeared to claire was smokey and not the real thing??? I also dont know if claire is dead, rather i think ben has plans ofr her and ever since ethan took aaron, it seemed they planned on splitting them up, so when ben said not to bother getting claire maybe he wanted to scoop her up from the building reckage, and when sawyer did his own thing ben or whoever had to improvise with a smokey version of christain.
Wow that sounded like we were beating a dead horse. No pun intended. :) Seemed like we ganged up on you a little 2costa. I guess we all feel the same way about Jin.
2costa said:
1. Jacks new back tatoo seems to have a R on one side and B on the other of a glyph looking aarrowhead, me thinks thats a tribute to rose and bernard, since jack did promise to save everyone and obviouslt that didnt work out.
You know when I looked at the picture I thought the same thing. That it was an R and a B and it pertained to Rose and Bernard. But that seems to obvious. I'm think memphish is probably right it's just another Matthew Fox tattoo.
Maybe its a leap, but i think Ben is grooming claire and Sawyer to be his orchid jumpers, they have little to no ties to living people, no familes. Much like Ben seperated mike and walt, hes doing the same with claire to manipulate her, her wandering off with christain eminded me of how she was all good with giving up aaron to the others after she drank some happy juice
i dont think so, the producers know we look at every detail and i think the tattoo was deliberate, makes it seems like rose and bernard and adam and eve,besides the obvious ebony and ivory references...
Pretty sure it's an R and S. Matthew Fox's wife's last name begins with an R, but I can't connect the S (or B, if it's a B) to anything obviously personal.
With so little to go on, I'm inclined to just let the tattoo thing rest until we're told to think about it.
I'm willing to go with the tattoo is for Rose and Bernard. :D
i guess from the use of the razor, we now know jack could have been shaving this whole time..
the second letter is not an S there is clearly a straight line down the center of it. A capital cursive S would have a line at the left bottom corner starting the letter, just like the R, whereas a B would havethe two half cirlcles on the left side of the post
if youll notice jack has a new red tattoo on the underside of his bicep with the chinese tattoo on it
http://bp1.blogger.com/_Hxnvg45zlCw/SBqQTki_uyI/AAAAAAAAA5c/cBDGIp7D9EM/s1600-h/jacks+scar3.jpg
i just cant see matt fox getting a prison style tattoo on his back, he can afford la ink money, plus the tribal aarow head in between the letters just makes me think its island related
http://bp3.blogger.com/_n3eH1jI8AZ8/SBqMbZN2FdI/AAAAAAAAELw/J4iZJSkU2RM/s1600-h/jack-no-scar2.jpg
you can see the new red one here too, of all the people on the show that wont have random tattoos i think its jack
http://bp2.blogger.com/_n3eH1jI8AZ8/SBqYpJN2FjI/AAAAAAAAEMg/G_MG7ACXWfQ/s1600-h/dharma-logo-aarons-bed2.jpg
nice dharma logo
7. could keamy be trying to eliminate everyone on the island,as i mentioned the other day, to protect widmores island and especially his timeline, since people on the island if they ever happened to escape would manifest some kind of precog skillz I agree that Keamy's plan is to take out everyone but himself at Widmore's bidding. I don't know if it's to protect a timeline or prevent precognition though
keamy is wittmores - mikhail
if the tat is for rose/bernard - could he have turned his back to them, so he put it on his back?
I'm sorry but that's not a Dharma logo for the base of Aaron's mobile.
Being a mother my daughter had a Winnie the Pooh mobile and it had the same "nut".The mobile post has a screw that you slip between the bars of the crib or in this case bed and then you screw the "nut" to the other side of the bars.
But it is the right shape. Just not a logo.
And here's another mom question -- wouldn't you have a gate on those stairs still at age 3?
Oh and Matthew had the red tattoo in season 3. It was talked about then too. It's his own.
memphish
I don't know at that age he might just scoot or crawl up and down the stairs. But I think I would personally consider it.
I personally couldn't tell if it was a R or not. But it does look enough like a R that it made me think of Rose and Bernard.
Re: seeing buried vs. unburied people -- Libby was buried, right? Hurley visits her grave. And she appeared to Mike. Sorry if this was asked already and I missed it. :-)
Happy B-day 2costa! *<:o)
capcom, you're right. But then, she appeared in Michael's hospital room on the mainland, too. I think her appearances are made of different stuff, so to speak, than Charlie or Christian or Yemi appearing to various people (and yes, I know that two of those also appeared off-Island).
Just a feeling, I guess. Doesn't necessarily hold up to scientific scrutiny. ; )
You mean Lostific scrutiny. :-D
Good point about Libby Capcom, though who knows if it works the same on and off Island as Kyle said. Ana Lucia appeared in a dream to Eko before she was buried. And buried Boone appeared in Locke's wacky paste vision. So I'm guessing dream/vision appearances are different still.
I agree, I didn't count Locke's Boonavision either, since it was paste-induced.
Jack's tattoo - RB - Rachel Blake!
Just kidding, but that was the first thing I thought of. :)
Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa! You get this week's prize Melissa. :-D
Just popping in to wish 2Costa a Happy, and blessed Birthday.
I've got a lot of catching up to do,but I wanted to say that I thought Flash-forward Jack & Kate ,looked way better than Survivor:Widmore Island-Jack & Kate.
Oh, happy birthday, 2costa!
And thanks, capcom. :)
I thought that the OLVP with M.E. and A.D. is good. They are both such nice distinguised gents. A rarity these days when that sort of thing is deemed old school.
maven
I know where I know April Jones from (Dr. Erica)
I finally got around to searching her name.
She played Darcy Hawkins on Jericho.
Don't know if you watched that show or not, but that's where I know her from.
OMG, Sayid'sgirl! That's where I knew her from. Now I can sleep tonight! LOL
Lindeloff and Cuse are scheduled to be on Kimmel tonight. I've got to set the DVR. This week in censorship is also a Friday favorite.
I can't believe it is just dawning on me to ask why does Kate need a nanny?
Good question, Memphish. Maybe she was the Nanny Kate used when she was on trial, and she just calls her now and then when she needs a babysitter?
Thanks for the heads up on Kimmel. DVR set!!
she originally needed a nanny because she was in jail, but if your asking how she can afford it, i would say her handsome oceanic settlement.
since we know suns getting off and jin isn't I think charlotte speaking korean is just gonna help practically speaking, for jin to be able to fully communicate, I wonder how much of what they are doing on the show now is for cost cutting measures, there was rumbling before that having such a big cast working in Hawaii was super expensive, now they seemed to have set the stage for a lot of L.a. filming next season.
i wonder if we are gonna actually get some insight into Jacob next week or more teases. I think rose is taking jacks sickness as an omen and wont wanna leave...
I agree she needed the nanny for the trial. My question is why does she need the nanny now? What's she up to until 4 pm everyday that they need a nanny? Part time bank robbery planning? Drape sewing? Bamboo hairband making?
I'm just nitpicking on the life of the stay at home O6 survivor with a kid. But it didn't look like Sun had help, and she's the one used to a bevy of servants.
Hairband making, that's a good one! :-D It's her cottage industry.
was actually sort of strange that mr paik wasnt in that suncentric episode, thats a caring grandfather
well my wife said if i didnt shave my beginnings of a jack oxycoton beard i wasnt gonna get my gift so Im outy
Maybe Jack saved Kate by lying in court.
That could be what he's referring to BarbaraJay because I don't think Jack was clear on what he was talking about. But I think the trial came down to prosecutorial expediency. I think Jack is more likely talking about something on Island. I'm hopeful we'll know by May 30th.
2Costa, your beard comment cracked me up. Enjoy the rest of the birthday.
With various blog speculation about Claire giving up Aaron if she can't leave, I'm wondering if that's not going to be the case if she will hold fast to Aaron not being raised by anyone but her. Maybe a source of Jack's initial reluctance to see Aaron, will be because Aaron was forced away from Claire somehow and into rescue. And now especially since Hurley told him that he should not be raising Aaron, remembering what Claire said about it, now he'll reeeeeeally want to go back, to return Aaron. I dunno, just wondering.
That is not a B on Jack's back. It's either an S (think really scrolly S) or it's an 8. Definitely not a B. No straight line on the left and the the two bumps on the right do not look right for a B.
Just re-watched the episode and here are some thoughts:
Kate tells Jack that she bought him a razor. I guess they aren't really living together yet. If they were, wouldn't he have had a razor there in the bathroom?
Doctors (or men) are their own worst patients.
Claire seemed really spooked being around the dead Karl and Danielle. She just wanted to get out of there.
Why is Dan still wearing a tie?
Jack seems to be afraid of being unconscious.
How did Hurley know that Jack didn't want anything to do with Aaron after Kate's trial?
Jin tells Sun that "I will get you and our baby off this island." He doesn't say that he will get all of them off.
Saw a blooper: On Jack's doctor coat his name is Shepard. On his door it has the "h" in it: Shephard.
Dr. Erica Stevens is wearing a necklace made up of a circle within a circle. Nice jewelry, but does it have any meaning?
Juliet's honesty about Jack's kiss scores some brownie points for me.
If Kate is seeing Cassidy, why wouldn't Sawyer want Kate to tell Jack. What's the big secret if they're not going to see Sawyer again?
maven said...Why is Dan still wearing a tie?
LOL -THAT is a good question.
One thing I noticed when I went back and skimmed through the episode was that Jack had no chest hair. I thought maybe I was just mistaken about him having chest hair before when we've seen him shirtless, but Jimmy Kimmel just brought it up on his show. DL and CC haven't come out yet. Don't know if they'll address it. Why in the world would Jack have had his body waxed? It couldn't just be a blooper could it? Surely TPTB would know we'd ask about it. What kind of significance could that have? Does it tie in with J. Wood's theory of why Kate's freckles disappear?
Another thing I noticed was that when Christian appears to Jack in his office bldg (right after Jack takes the battery out of the smoke alarm) he is still wearing his white tennis shoes. I'm sure that must have significance. It's interesting that undead Charlie came back with a new hair cut and clothes, but undead Christian is wearing the same old suit and shoes. hmmmm
There was something else I noticed this afternoon, but now I can't think of it. Maybe it will come to me tomorrow. I'm going to stay up and watch DL/CC then off to bed.
Oh 2Costa- I've been meaning to wish you a Happy Birthday all day! Here in AZ it's not quite midnight, so I guess I just barely got it in in time! :)
Does anyone remember what episode we found out that Claire and Jack have the same father? I can't remember the circumstances of how they told that story.
Thanks, JoAnn
DL and CC on Kimmel gave no answers, but at least Kimmel asked about the chest hair and Smokey's failure to kill all the bad guys. They did say Smokey has rules.
Joann, Par Avion was Claire's goth flashback where we learned Christian was her father when he comes to Australia to take care of her mother.
Nice observations Maven. Jack does live there since the phone rang and it was for him. I have personal experience with doctors being bad patients. It took Hubby 1 week to deal with his recent sciatica. As for Dan's tie, I think this is just the way he rolls. As for Jack not wanting to be around Aaron, I assume that goes back to the rescue. And Sawyer doesn't want Jack to know, because Jack would try to fix things, and we all know how badly that goes.
Scoutpost, I think the white tennis shoes are to signal us that it's dead not live Christian.
2Costa -- I was thinking more about Jin and his deal with Charlotte. The more I think about it, the more it shows that Jin is in fact one of the good guys. His first priority is Sun and the baby, but then he's willing to give up a second rescue seat to any of the rest of the 815ers. I still can't wait to see why Hurley and Jack instead of anyone else like Jin or any of the background people.
Great and helpful thoughts on the episode everyone!
I'm wondering if the reason TPTB inserted this curious bout with appendicitis is to get Jack on the rescue flight. Maybe his surgery gets infected because the island wouldn't let it heal. But then the island might be working at crossed purposes to itself, if it's meaning to keep him on the island, so I dunno. Or, everyone might just vote him off the island to make sure that he gets proper care.
Memphish said: "As for Dan's tie, I think this is just the way he rolls." Heheh, I would guess that too. I've worked with scientists who are so involved with their left-brain thinking that they forget to tend to those pesky minor things in life like hygiene and comfort, or even tying their shoe-laces. :-D
maybe smokey not killing keamys crew goes with what kimmel was saying about it being a good thing to die on the island, or what i was saying about not wanting to kill the wrong people on the island, then youll be stuck with them forever. Kimmel was half right the smoke didnt just come and kill eko right off, it scanned him in one episode, and followed him around like a playful animal the whole episode where he died..
its weird how horace looks fine then has a bloody nose the next second. Is the bloody nose eloise related. Call me a sceptic, but im not convinced that horace is a ghost, i think it may either be smokey or ben used the orchid to somehow save him from the purge. As much as i feel locke may be the chosen one, there seems to be more to it where ben and everyone are trying to convince him hes chosen. Considering Hurley seems to have as much if not more jacob mojo as locke, yet hugo gets off the island. I think it goes back to Ben wanting to put a weak(locke) caretaker in his place while he attends to off island business... The producers go to lengths to say how they walk the razorblade, between supernatural and scientific explainations on the show, so this new walking dead thing of late seems to me to be showing too much of their hand on the supernatural side of things, and with 2 seasons to go, im not sure they would do that. As in everything in Lost, nothing is what it seems at first, so im thinking there's gonna be a twist to this whole walking dead thing, horace seemed to be chopping a tree of something and was talking to locke in broad daylight, every other time weve seen smokey or an apparition, it was raining, gloomy, or night time. Except when jack was chasing his dad, but just chasing a glimmer is differnt than having a whole matter of fact convo with a ghost.
the odd thing was that cristain didnt have on his dark suit when he came to claire he had on a kaki shirt ala goodwin or steve irwin.
maybe horace bloodt nose is because he was around during the swinging studio 54seque, swinging 70's and 80's on the island at the height of the dharma initiative, maybe in those days the air drop had a kilo of dharma cocaine, maybe horace was the one who was dabbling with the heroin in the pearl hatch, if thats the case locke had better have an adrealine shot ready ala pulp ficton
I'm blown away by the Horace thing in the promos, 2costa. I am looking forward to seeing what that is all about!
Me, too, Capcom! That was definitely at WHOA moment when Horace said he's been dead for 12 years! Next week should be awesome.
One thing stood out for me on the Kimmel show last night with the producers (I just watched it this morning.) When Jimmy asked them why Keamy's mean didn't seem to die when attacked by the smoke monster, Damon said, "The Smoke Monster has different rules for different people." I know they're kidding around a lot on a talk show, but this line might just give us a little more insight into one of LOST's biggest questions.
I was just wondering....after seeing CS telling Vincent that he needed to help Jack because he had work to do, maybe CS is going to tell Claire the same thing? Crazazy, I know.
Kyle/TheBookPolice said...
Did anyone else connect the SMOKE detector malfunction with the appearance of dead Christian in the hospital lobby?
I did. I also noticed that Erica was wearing all black. I felt like the combination of "smoke detector" and "black" was meant to be taken as an implication of black smoke monster-ish activity off the island.
Did the detector go off the first time that Jack saw CS walk through the lobby? I have only watched this ep once.
Thanks Memphish for the episode name where we found out about Jack's dad being Claire's dad. I had forgot all about that one.
Hey, Penuels! Great to see you posting here again! Wonder why Christian had to get Jack out of his office and "set off" the smoke detector and waited for him in the lobby?
Also, besides being dressed in black, Dr. Stevens had an interesting necklace on...a circle within a circle. What would that mean?
Capcom: I don't think the smoke detector went off the first time.
Hey Maven! Yeah...we're still diehard Lost fans but between work and our little one (Chapman is 8 months now), we just don't ever seem to be able to keep up with all of the comments enough to pitch in.
Usually the things we talk about have already made it into the discussion before we get a chance to catch up!
Penuels: Time sure is flying by! My granddaughter, Elizabeth, is already 7 months old! Chapman sure looks handsome!
I know what you mean about checking in and most thoughts have already been posted! I experience this because of my west coast time difference! Oh, well, all TLC minds think alike! LOL
Juliet conspiracy theorists this one's for you (from Gitsie Girl: 10. As Rose said, people on the island don’t get sick. Also, this wouldn’t be the first time that we’ve seen someone poison or try to stop someone they love from leaving the island (Sun and Walt). I still think that Juliet was up to something.
This made me laugh: 25. “Jack kissed me… blah, blah, blah, blah….” I don’t watch Grey’s Anatomy for a reason Darlton.
Thanks for the link to Gitsie Girl, Memphish.
Like I did yesterday, in #22 she mentions the drawing on the fridge. I still say it's weird that with all the cheery flowers and ladybugs (which seem to have been also seen at Santa Rosa), there's this "monster" in black. A child's rendering of the Smoke Monster?
Penuels;
You loook maaarvelous.
Thanks for stopping by.
Random thought of the day: Horace did look pretty good for a dead guy (until he mentions his begin dead and gets a nose bleed).
Maybe Richard Alpert doesn't seem to age because he's dead too.
happy belated birthday 2costa
good to see y'all Penuels
Thanks for that Gitsie Girl link, memphish. It's nice to know I'm not alone in my distrust of Juliet. ROFL: “Jack kissed me… blah, blah, blah, blah….” My feelings EXACTLY!
I put this over on your blog, too (memphish) that my daughter was agreeing with me about not trusting Juliet and her idea was that Juliet was trying to impregnate Jack... hmmm, he does look a little more "soft" with no chest hair (did you see Kimmel last nite?) and we've complained before that he sure does whine and cry a lot! LOL!
Hi All, for whoever is interested, I just got back from seeing Ironman, and it's fantastic. There was not a moment of the movie that was not good.
Holymoly, it never occured to me that Richard might be dead! Sooo, is that why Ben asked him if he remembered birthdays??????? :-o
Capcom: I've heard nothing but good reviews for "Ironman". Your review just sealed the deal! LOL
The thought that Richard Alpert (and who knows who else) is dead would definitely add to possible mind-blowing! I bet he would be dead longer than Horace's 12 years. Maybe even since the Black Rock days.
i doubt richard is dead, because of his recruiting trips in "not in portland". Ghosts as far as we have seen on and off island only show up for a short time say their peace and leave. Richard went on a whole recruiting trip with ethan who i assume was alive at the time. Im still thinking that richard not aging is related to joop being so old, either time doesnt pass normally on the island or they have unlocked some scientific fountain of youth maybe related to tle blood transfusions, are we thinking joop is a ghost now too??? Im not convinced Horace is a proper ghost int he sense we are thinking, maybe ben used the orchid to pluck horace out of the purge
2costa, you make me wonder if Joop's miraculous age was not so much a factor of the Hanso/DI scientific research, but merely a product of him being on the island forever, perhaps even indigenously. Sure, the DI finds an old ape and takes all the credit. :-D
We saw Richard in Portland, but for how long? Only long enough to meet with Juliet and recruit her. Like Charlie at Santa Rosa, he definitly could be "dead" but as corporeal as anyone.
I think the monster drawing on the fridge was Chewbacca, obviously Aaron is a Star Wars fan.
Question for the blog -- did you think that Jack's flash was just a dream instead of a real picture of the future? I never considered that, but listening to Jay and Jack and reading online it appears others did. I'm wondering if anyone here had those questions.
Random thought of today:
Dan is still wearing his tie because otherwise he'd have to unbutton his shirt, and he
a. has a third nipple
b. has an embarrassing tatoo (insert own image here)
c. like Clark Kent's glasses, the tie is integral to his secret identity.
or not.
Interesting thought about Jack, Memphish, which part do they think was Jack dreaming, the entire shacking up thing? While he was under the ether?
Good point about Richard, Amused.
LOL. If it's B, Dan's got a tattoo of someone like Einstein or maybe even Eloise.
I like the Clark Kent option
I think people think the Flash was a Bobby Ewing like dream. Should have been Pam, not Kate in the shower.
Fishbiscuit has her recap up on her blog.
I don't buy the theory that "it was all a dream". Although Bernard puts Jack out with the chloroform as he says think of something nice back home, we know that things back home aren't really nice. Things unravel rapidly. Apparently, there's not a happily ever after in the LOST world.
I never really considered the flash to be a dream either. If the episode began with Jack's surgery I might be talked into it. But the flash started at the begining of the show.
I agree Sayid's girl- I think the flashing started before Jack was ever out...unless he was flashing while he was passed out from the pain- which may be true. Still, while TPTB like to mess with our minds, I just don't think they'd introduce the dream thing - it would make it too confusing. Just like when we questioned Sayid's FF and they told us they would keep it in chronological within the FF- I think this was a FF, not a dream. Plus, I just remembered that DL referred to Jack's hairlessness on Jimmy Kimmel as being in the future, so that may be further proof- FF not dream.
Looks like you've all discussed everything I noticed by now. My notes probably aren't particularly relevant by now but here goes:
dedjetzer - I passed out in the hospital floor while waiting to see a dr. when I had appendicitis. It was related to dehydration - so I bought it.
memphish - Do the think the role reversal is meant to show that Jack wasn't "supposed" to go home with Kate and Sawyer wasn't "supposed" to be the one rescuing Claire in the jungle. If Jack had been sleeping by the fire, would Christian have led both his children off into the jungle and away from the rescue vehicle? And it's called Con-mama, huh? Count me in.
re Kate's nanny: Since we don't know how long she was in jail, we can't really guess how long the nanny was Aaron's sole caregiver. It made sense to me that she'd keep around the person who had 'raised him' until she got the hang of the mothering bit. But poor Aaron - he just gets yanked pillar to post as my grandmother would say.
I can't quite put my finger on my other thought. You remember that scene where Scarlett and Ashley have finally figured out that they never really were so much in love as that they were best friends with a lot in common - and then someone sees them embrace the one and only time it was innocent and they're accused of the affair that was actually ending? I'm wondering if Sawyer doesn't apologize to Kate for saying she wouldn't know what to do with a baby - hand the baby over for her to take care of - asks her to check in on Clem and make sure she got his money - kiss her goodbye and go look for Claire - etc. etc. etc. But Jack hangs onto the picture he saw and it culminates in this jealous tantrum where he throws away what he and Kate could have had. . . and may still have yet, who knows?
Intresting Lost2010. I like the reversal idea. I also can buy the nanny bit, it makes sense to me to keep one around after the baby is used to her. Yes, Jack does seem to throw away everything good that he has, and unfortunately, people who do that don't deserve the good things that they have. :-(
No, I don't think the flash was a dream.
Interesting idea about Claire possible being dead. I guess she would have had a hard time feeding Aaron if she were dead.
Richard being dead could explain his agelessness. If the dead walk among the living, how do you tell who's living who's dead?
So with the introduction of dead Horace, are we officially entering the zombie season?
I was watching Rachael Blake's final video (You Tube).When she was talking to Alvar; about Mittelwerkhe he said "They cannot kill me,but he can keep me locked up, while he kills millions".
Does Alvar have a get out of grave-free card also?
The dream thing never really made sense to me either. But Jay and Jack discuss the episode in their Friday show assuming all the flashes were a dream, in part because they missed the opening scene with Juliet waking Jack in his tent. And Juliet does say "I need you to wake up." I suppose you could argue he never did, but I'm not buying it. I don't think TPTB would pull a Pam Ewing on us.
Lost2010, I'm not sure why Christian doesn't come get Jack if he's not supposed to leave. I also still don't understand why he takes Claire, but not Aaron unless Claire is indeed already dead (which to me is a FREAKY theory).
But I love, love, love your Scarlett/Ashley analogy. Though to me it's Kate and Jack that are more Scarlett and Ashley rather than Kate and Sawyer. Kate and Sawyer are Scarlett and Rhett if ever I saw them.
it just occurred to me that maybe the rules that ben thinks widmore broke is changing the timeline majorly or igonoring a course correction. It almost seemed like ben lived through the barracks raid before and what if alex survived the first time, ben was just trying his minor tweaks like telling them not tio let in sawyer. Widmore changed the rules by ordering keamy to kill alex this time around. By doing this ben is gonna start messing with time more directly, instead of letting these moral decisions be played out by the pawns(815'ers, others). Ben seemed like he was so surprised that keamy actually shot alex, but maybe it wasn't because there is a no killing family rule, maybe it was because she was not meant to die or didnt die the first time it played out. So i guess what im saying is ben and widmore had a pact to keep the timeline basically intact through course corrections, but played out there games putting island people through trials to survive and then choise good or evil or black or white...
lostit said:
So with the introduction of dead Horace, are we officially entering the zombie season?
I like it! lol It would certainly seem so wouldn't it? And all this time I thought they were joking. :)
memphish - I've always thought of Sawyer as Rhett in my analogies too. But tonight their roles seemed a little reversed to me.
The other person I always associate with Sawyer is Hans Solo, so that's what I thought of when I saw Jack stub his toe on the Millenium Falcon. I missed that he used Sawyer's favorite swear.
Well, Lost2010, like I said somewhere, there's not really that much difference between Jack and Sawyer, and I suppose the same could be said for all of us.
LOST is all about "but for the choices my parents made . . ." But for Sawyer's mom's affair and Sawyer's dad's way of dealing with it Sawyer could be a professor of Literature instead of a con man who reads. But for Jack's dad who said you will be a surgeon despite lacking what it takes Jack would have been a kite flying beach bum or possibly the next Frank Lapidus. But for Kate's mom dumping the good Army guy for the lousy drunk Kate wouldn't have had to kill her dad. And but for her dad Scarlett would have let the Yankees have Tara. I, for one, am excited to see where the "we have crap dads" Island tour takes us next. Is it Thursday yet?
LOL good one Memphish, instead of Craphole Island, it's Crapdad Island. :-D
Aaron isn't showing much potential for having much of a dad at this point either is he? First his original dad runs off. Then Charlie meets and untimely demise (if you sort of think of him as a father figure). And now Jack's blown it too. . .
Crapdad Island indeed. . .
Great Sunday afternoon discussions, gang.
Like the Scarlett/Ashely analogy, too. Although I must say, Sawyer seems a lot more like Rhett to me. Jack must have had that hot jungle cage sex scene etched into his mind, so anything Kate does regarding Sawyer, must bring up that image.
Crapdad Island! LOL
That's the one drawback to that Con-mama ship - I'm not sure you'd really and truly want to stick Sawyer into that rather questionable dad-collage that Aaron's got going. Poor kid may not have a chance whatsoever.
Here's a promo photo that clearly shows Christian Shephard's new on Island clothing. This makes me think this Christian may be Smokey. "You speak to me as if I were your Dad" anyone?
I heard an interesting theory on The Transmission today -- Ben is Widmore's illegitimate son which is why he calls Ben "boy" and why Ben can't kill him and why Roger really didn't like Ben. I'm not 100% sold on it, but it is an interesting idea.
lost2010: The other person I always associate with Sawyer is Hans Solo
Wouldn't that be "Hans Sölø"? ; )
kyle - You'll have to explain - I'm definitely missing something.
memphish - But if Christian is smokey, does that mean smokey can leave the island? Or does it mean that when the O6 leave, they inadvertantly take a piece of smokey with them? That would be a cool theory - that this piece of smokey needs to get back to the island to reunite with the rest of itself - thus it's desperately trying to influence the O6 to go back. Hmmm, I might be able to run with that one. That piece of Smokey could have been hanging onto Hurley until it saw a chink in Jack's armor - then it latched onto him and followed him home. Kate better watch out!
I think that would be the Nordic version, Lost2010. :-)
I like your piece of Smokey idea Lost2010. But that wasn't so much where I was going. I think the Christian we saw in White Rabbit and that Jack saw in ep 4.10 and Hurley saw in Jacob's cabin in 4.1 and that Vincent saw in the mobisode are the same as the Charlie that appears to Hurley. I think the Christian that appears to Claire in ep 4.10 may be a different sort of manifestation because his clothes are different. I don't understand where the Christian with Aaron got the new threads.
I'm listening to LOSTCasts latest episode and they read a theory from the fuselage that dead Charlie and dead Christian are time traveling and that they appear to Hurley and Jack/Claire respectively because Hurley and Jack/Claire are their constants. The theory goes on to talk about how they are corporeally there because Charlie can slap Hurley and Christian can hold Aaron. They disappear when their constant rejects them like when Hurley wills Charlie away. It's at about 13 minutes into the podcast is anyone wants to check it out.
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I separated that link from the rest of Sawyer840's blog so that you wouldn't see any spoilers. :-)
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Another good idea from LOSTCasts. Is Kate breaking part of the O6 deal by contacting Cassidy who is linked to an allegedly dead 815er? Another theory was that Kate is not contacting Cassidy/Clementine, but instead is trying to find out what Sawyer's legal status is with respect to the killing of the shrimp guy in Australia.
Yeah, sorry lost2010. Just ribbing you a little for adding an S to Han Solo's first name.
Thanks capcom! That's really great of you to separate it from the spoilers too, I'm doing pretty good with the spoiler-free thing this second half of the season, but the episode titles don't bother me.
memphish- I like both those theories. I kind of hope Kate's favor turns out to be something we haven't thought of. Because I can't really put my finger on why Sawyer wouldn't want Jack to know he had a daughter - - other than the fact that he didn't really want anyone to know.
kyle - A shame that I wasn't even smart enough to get the joke, wasn't it? So his name is Han? I've been calling him Hans for 20 years - ya learn something new every day. LOL
Kate and Cassidy met once, right, when Cassidy was selling fake jewelry at the gas station and she helped Kate see her mom? If visiting Cassidy is the favor Kate does for Sawyer, will Kate have some sort of WTF moment when she realizes how their lives have overlapped?
Sawyer's been a way a while. Maybe he just wanted Kate to water his plants and bring in the mail.
No problem-o Lost2010, I didn't want you to miss it. :-) Freaky, innitt?!
LOL, FSYB.
You know, that's as big of a hole in the story for Kate, as was how Mike got from "Take bearing 325" on the dock to "You got the time?" in the alley with Tom. Could be that TPTB will have her going to the bank to check on the account as she promised, she meets Cassidy on their way in, then they exchange stories and have their OMG moment. Then later they are Sister Chucklepusses on the phone when Jack walks into the kitchen.
The way this show goes it'll probably be something ridiculously complicated, like - -
Kate is wiring 3.2 million dollars from Sawyer's bank account in the Caymans to Miles so that Miles will tell people that Ben is dead and Ben will finally let Sawyer, Jin, and Claire leave the island.
Amused2bHere said... Random thought of today: Dan is still wearing his tie because otherwise he'd have to unbutton his shirt, and he
a. has a third nipple
b. has an embarrassing tatoo (insert own image here)
c. like Clark Kent's glasses, the tie is integral to his secret identity.
d. Has the hots for Charlotte, and thinks that chicks dig ties.
Also,
I saw a very interesting observation on a non-lost forum - in the episode, Jack and Claire both see "the ghost" of Christian Shepard, however only Jack know that Christian is dead. Jack thinks he is crazy because he is seeing a ghost (even though he also saw his ghost dad on the island). But Claire doesn't know her dad is dead. So, what is weirder? Seeing you dead dad's ghost, or seeing your "alive" dad on a mysterious island?
Sister Chucklepussess....that is hilarious!
Perhaps the tie is his constant.
Or like Samson and his hair, he must keep it on as it is the source of his physics genius.
dennis, I love that observation about Claire seeing her dad. Maybe she thought she was saved.
Good point Dennis, which one would be weirder?! I guess that's why Claire said, "Dad???" so incredulously.
There is some news about Mila Furlan's future on the show on the front page of DarkUFO, in case anyone is interested. It should probably be in the spoiler section.
FYSB said... dennis, I love that observation about Claire seeing her dad. Maybe she thought she was saved.
I'm here to save you, but you need to leave your baby behind?
Why would she do anything Christian said? I though she hated his guts - she didn't even want to know his name (although that was in her "emo" phase)
Well, specifically, I was referring to the moment when she saw her dad that maybe she thought they were saved. Not the moment where she left her baby behind. Her "Dad?" was incredulous, not angry. And I don't care how much I hated him, if I thought he could get me and/or mah baybee off the island, I might give him a listen.
whos to say hurley and jack dont have chips in their head like claire and that makes smokey or island spirits go wifi. I always point out that had sawyer had a differnt upbringing he would havebeen an accomplished man, sawyer reads more than anyone and complicated stuff, you never see jack read anything but perscription bottles.
I just think that when ben told alex "ive got things under control, he honestly had lived it before and when keamy seemed serious he pulled that she's only a pawn stuff out of his ass to avert it". He truly seemed astonished that it actually happened, yet you turn around and leave didn't seem like it got under keamys skin. What if widmore somehow unstuck keamy too, or prepared him for bens tradmark memorized dossier of your life, so it wouldnt rattle him...
I wonder if Ben will hold Jack accountable in any way for the death of Alex? After all, if Jack hadn't have made the phone call that Ben told him not to make...but who can blame Jack for not believing someone who had lied to them from the first day they met?! Anyway, it would be fun if Ben would leap for Jack's throat like the killer bunny in The Holy Grail.
2costa - Good point. Has anyone seen a ghost that didn't get captured by the others at some point? Michael was captured. Jack, Kate, Sawyer, and Hurley were captured. Claire was captured. Who else has seen a ghost?
Eko saw Yemi, but was never captured.
Capcom: LOL Run Away!!!!
Dennis said: But Claire doesn't know her dad is dead. So, what is weirder? Seeing you dead dad's ghost, or seeing your "alive" dad on a mysterious island?
It's sometimes tough to remember that all the characters don't know what others do, and what we do. Claire's seen some pretty weird thing on the island, why not her Dad...not knowing he's dead.
Maybe Dan's tie is like Dilbert's. Dilbert's tie went flat when he got some. So maybe Dan will stop wearing his tie when he gets Charlotte.
I just remembered, South Park had an episode about that, too. The guidance counselor's enormous head deflated when he loosened his tie after having sex. Mm'Kay?
fysb said (Hi, fysb): If visiting Cassidy is the favor Kate does for Sawyer, will Kate have some sort of WTF moment when she realizes how their lives have overlapped?
I think they all with say WTF when (and if) they all realize how their lives have intersected in the past. Especially if we see what Jack's reaction when he finds out Claire is his half-sister.
I know most of us are think it Cassidy/Clementie involved in Sawyer's favor. It makes the most sense. But I wouldn't put it past TPTB to throw us a curve ball on this one since I don't know why it's so important that Sawyer doesn't want Jack to find out. Unless, he just know that the mere mention of Sawyer's name would jepordize any hope that Kate would find happiness with Jack.
Just head this on Lost Unlocked -- Claire waking up and saying "Dad?" is like the end of "What Kate Did" with the computer typing "Dad?" Of course, it's also like Jack in the middle of "White Rabbit."
Eko may not have been captured, but he was part of the swan implosion, ample time to put a chip in him. Eko only saw yemi on the island, i was saying maybe for mike jack and hurley their chips or shots made smokey capable of off island wifi appearances. Claire reminded me of how she was all loopy and willing to give ethan aaron, and mad that rousseau saved her whne she just walked off leaving aaron when croc hunter christain came a callin'
sorry my bad, at quik glance it looked like chriastain was wearing a shaki shirt, but its pinstripes
interesting picture that kate has in her pad think its christain?
http://sharonalva420.blogspot.com/
Maven, i now have a picture in my mind of the Lostie Reunion. They have to play those icebreaker games "find someone who slept with sawyer" and "find someone with the same dad as you" and "find someone who was in the santa rosa mental hospital". Then they share their answers, oh the wacky hilarity that ensues!
Anyone ever read that old ghost story about the girl with the velvet ribbon around her neck? Maybe if Dan takes off the tie, his head will fall off!
Okay, if you haven't read the story, the gist is there's a girl who always wears a velvet ribbon around her neck, and won't take it off. She gets married and when she falls asleep one night her husband takes it off her (don't ask me why) and it turns out that her head's not attached to her body and it rolls off across the floor or something.
Too weird for Lost? ;)
LOL Melissa! When I was a kid, every time I heard the song "Around Her Neck She Wore A Yellow Ribbon" I thought that they were singing about that scary story. :-B
capcom - LOL! There was another story that I remember (that was probably in the same book) about a couple that got married and the guy would never eat red meat. One night, the wife sneaks some red meat into dinner (again, don't ask me why) and the guy loves it, but then he turns into a werewolf and runs out into the night.
My husbands a vegetarian and he's sometimes very paranoid about meat ending up in his food. Always reminds me of that story!
I think you guys are all telling ghost/scary stories to get us in the mood for Thursday's "I've been dead 12 years" episode! LOL
Kristen from EOline has a video interview with Damon and Carlton on G4's "Attack of the Show". It was done before SNBH, so now there are no spoilers in it!
(Scroll down past the Reaper story.)
Your're right, Maven, everyone's saying that this is the zombie ep that TPTB have been joking about. :-D
In reference to Claire saying that she saw things, I wonder if perhaps she saw Charlie too, because of what she said when Sawyer found her after the RPG blew up. She could have just been dreaming or rambling though.
Hi all I've just read that :-
***Mild, if not obvious, non story related spoiler ahead***
The Lost crew flew over to London this week to film some sequences with Alan Dale for the final episodes of this years season. He couldn't go to LA as he is still starring in Spamalot in London.
**** End Spoiler ***
maven - have you heard the one about the babysitter who kept getting scary phone calls? It turns out the calls were coming FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!! LOL
zort - I think in the last OLP, they said that the final scene in The Shape of Things to Come was one of the scenes shot in England. They laugh at how it's one of the few scenes ever shot outside of Hawaii, and you'd never know it.
Melissa said: "...it's one of the few scenes ever shot outside of Hawaii, and you'd never know it."
That's a great testament to how well all TPTB on Lost do their job to make on the "location" shots look so authentic to the actual places! And it's why we love this show! XXXXXOOOOO
Capcom Said... make on the "location" shots look so authentic
At the risk of being annoying, I have to say that some of the scenes "in the UK" are not always that realistic, but I do have the advantage of being local !
They do pass muster on first viewing, but watching them more than once does tend to reveal a few inconsistencies.
The prime example of which is Desmond's Army base in Scotland.
I'm not saying I could do any better, and I can suspend my pedantic streak for the sake of a good story ;-)
I thought the location for "Iraq" was very well done.
Thanks, Melissa_lossa...now I'll have another nightmare! LOL
maven said...
I thought the location for "Iraq" was very well done.
I have to agree, and as I've only ever flown over Iraq I can't say it wasn't
Tunisia was well done as well, I went there on holiday a few years ago, and I didn't spot anything too unusual with it. Of course I didn't have preferred guest status at the hotel !
I've read a lot of things about that army scene, like you say Zort! :-D
But overall, given the fact that they go nowhere but Hawaii/U.S. for the most part, I give 'em congrats for a job as well done as possible, within the confines of the short turnaround time for TV that they have to work with.
When the LOST feature film comes out after the series is over (well, I can dream can't I?!) I'm sure they will have the time to get everything correct. :o)
melissa_lossa...that was the scariest movie! it came out during my babysitting days and one of our favorite pranks was to call our friends while they were babysitting and in a deep scary voice ask "Have you checked the children?"
fysb - that's too funny!
I caught part of the sequel about a year ago. It was, of course, awful, but there was a scene where the killer was in a dark apartment, and he had painted his skin and clothes to match the pattern of a brick wall. With the lights out, he blended right in until he opened his eyes. Scared the bejeesus out of me!
That reminds me of that scary film (the name escapes me) but I think it's Audrey Hepburn playing a blind woman and a man has broken in to her apartment looking for some hidden diamonds. He keeps slipping around her and it takes a while for her to figure out he's there.
Oh, yeah - I think it's called Wait Until Dark. Scary!
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Nevermind, I finally found where that new option sits in the format.
fysb, I loved that Hepburn movie! We actually got to see it in English class (dont' ask why, I don't remember its relevance, maybe the teachers just wanted the time off) in high school. Scary!
Anyone know what happened to the Valis podcast?
On the DVD commentary track for "The Man Behind the Curtain" Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse describe Horace and Olivia as factoring significantly in the future "game plan" for Lost.
horace's jump suit had the arrow logo on it and it said he was a mathamatician, but the aarow's true purpose has never been revealed, it had quarantine on the door like the swan, and the blast door map said it was a supply station or something and i thing goodwin implyed that too. Eko did find the glass eye and swan edit there
olivia as horace was present at ben's birth and she was also the school teacher who taught the volcano lesson...
belated happy birthday to 2costa
happy birthday to InEnglandAndLost today
Random thought of the day:
Since Hurley sees Charlie, Jack sees Christian, will
a. Kate see Wayne? the Marshall? Claire?
b. Sayid see Shannon? Nadia? Rousseau?
c. Aaron see Claire? Vincent?
more importantly:
Was Sun seeing Jin while she was in labor?
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Happy Birthday to InEnglandAndLost! Hope you had a great day wherever you are!
Hey, Amused, good questions. I don't know if Kate, Aaron, Sayid and Sun will be seeing dead people (like "The Sixth Sense"?). But something is drawing Hurley and Jack back to the island. I guess it's a matter of time before the other O6 feel the same way. There's unfinished business left on the island or Aaron has to get back there to fulfill his destiny. If Claire is dead (as many are theorizing), then she would be the one that might appear to the rest of the O6, to get Aaron back to the island and her.
Amused2bHere said... Anyone know what happened to the Valis podcast?
The space it was occupying has turned into time, has anyone tried looking into any pots with a fish symbol on them ?
Could the O6 be the only ones really alive from the crash and the others are just island creations ?
Probably the O6 + Michael + Ben + Juliett + Alpert + Danielle + Tom.
Any others we could consider being really alive, not just figments of someones imagination.
Happy LOST Day!
And Happy Birthday InEnglandandLost!
Dennis, David, anyone with more knowledge of podcasts and blogs than me -- why haven't the podcasts been getting to the iTunes feed? I haven't gotten one in at least 2 weeks. I never got the one for episode 4.9 or VALIS.
Happy Lost Day Everyone!!
Happy Birthday inenglandandlost!!
Valis isn't finished yet! As for the the last on I have no idea, as for the latest it's ready, but has not been posted yet.
Dennis,
Maybe you could remove the "?dl=1 from the link on episode 43. Valis will probably be ready sometime next week and then I'll put it up!
(PS I have a test feed available but it doesn't give the TLC traffic so if you want the link e-mail me, and I'll send it out!)
i dont buy this claire is dead thing or thats the island is zombie island, i think that some people live on so to speak, But making the island completely sixth senseish would be tipping the producers hand too much towards the supernatural rather than the scientific, and with 2 seasons to go I dont think theyd paint themselves in a corner like that. Since when is anything as it first appears on LOST anyhow, got to be a twinst??. Perhaps though, jacobs list is people that will be able to astrally project when dead. Im thinking that smokey downloads their essence when hes doing his flash photo thing and there is some huge computer behind smokey and for all intents and purposes the saved personalities are still alive. Concerning my post yesterday about horace being a mathamatician, this brings us full circle to the valanzetti equation and the core mission of the dharma initiative, perhaps horace needed BEn to kill him in the purge in order to transcend space and time and more effectively do the mathamatical forecasting initiative for ben(i.e horace is telling Ben which horse to put his money on). It was clear that Ben held a special place in his heart for horace, in that he(ben) closed his eyes on the corpse(horace), alex's death is the only other time i have seen Ben have that kind of feeling or affinity for another human
Happy Birthday inenglandandlost!
I haven't seen him around in a long time. Maybe because I have been so sporadic lately. Well Happy Birthday wherever you are!!
I've seen that Audrey Hepburn movie- it was suprisingly scary/suspensful.
Tonight's show should be interesting.
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