Tuesday, April 17, 2007

The Lost Community Podcast - Episode 20

Wow.... here it is - episode 20 of The Lost Community Podcast. Join hosts David A Dein and Steve "The Goog" Guglich as they unpack the episode "One of Us". Join in on the fun by calling our listener line at 732-564-4763 or by sending your e-mails and MP3 comments to TLCpodcast@gmail.com.

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128 comments:

Steve said...

Looks like we made it!

Dennis said...

Left each other on the way...

memphish said...

To another love.

ib4uc said...

Gotta love Manilow!

Happy Lost Eve everyone.

Dennis said...

I was hoping more people would join in on our Manilow blog veritas. :)


I'm feeling a little Fenris-y, so here are...


MY NOTES FROM THE PODCAST


• 3 spoilers

All clearly marked. Thanks guys!


• Lost Magazine readers "are really, really stupid."

Nice way to alienate your audience


• Juliet Middle Aged?!!??!?

Juliet is not middle aged - she's thirty seven!

Obligatory Monty Python quote:

ARTHUR: Old woman!
DENNIS: Man!
ARTHUR: Old Man, sorry. What knight lives in that castle over there?
DENNIS: I'm thirty seven.
ARTHUR: What?
DENNIS: I'm thirty seven -- I'm not old!
ARTHUR: Well, I can't just call you `Man'.
DENNIS: Well, you could say `Dennis'.
ARTHUR: Well, I didn't know you were called `Dennis.'
DENNIS: Well, you didn't bother to find out, did you?
ARTHUR: I did say sorry about the `old woman,' but from the behind
you looked--
DENNIS: What I object to is you automatically treat me like an inferior!
ARTHUR: Well, I AM king...
DENNIS: Oh king, eh, very nice. An' how'd you get that, eh? By
exploitin' the workers -- by 'angin' on to outdated imperialist dogma
which perpetuates the economic an' social differences in our society!



• Is the sub real?

No. THIS is what would explain why John Locke was wet when he blew up the sub. After entering the sub, he knew something was up and could tell it was a fake, but he had to dive into the water to confirm it.

Even though he found out the sub was a fake, he still blew it up. Mainly, because John likes blowing stuff up, and secondly, because he wanted to find out WHY Ben didn't want him to blow it up.


• Why did Juliet have to drink the tranquilizer?

Because they don't want her to realize how long the trip was. She probably thought they were making a short flight, not a trip half way around the world.


• Sub Markings

Here is a link to the sub markings. The words don't say anything interesting, but it has a Dharma logo, like the t-shirt of one of the guys in the sub.


• How did they know about Sawyer killing that guy?

Juliet confronts Saywer and Sayid on day 84. There were 77 days between the plane crash, and the flame station blowing up. That would have been plenty of time for a police investigation in Australia surrounding Frank Duckett's murder to turn up evidence pointing the crime to Sawyer, which Mikhail could have found out in his research. What else does he have to do beside play chess.


• Rose and Bernard

Come On! Really?? Are we really still going there? Really???


• Sun's baby daddy

If the baby is really short, then you'll know it Charlie's baby.
If the baby is bald, then you'll know it Jae Lee's baby.
Otherwise, it might be Jin's baby.


• Two weeks

The reason Ben was talking about the two weeks being hard, is that they were living in captivity, and had to break rocks all day. That seems like it would be hard to do for two weeks.


• Live podcast

Is that 5:00 PM Eastern? That would make it 2:00 PM Pacific...

ib4uc said...

dennis... you asked for it

Looks like we made it
Or I thought so till today
Until you where there everywhere
And all I could taste was love the way we made it

memphish said...

The Sub - I don't think it's totally fake. The Others used it to get to the sailboat back in The Glass Ballerina. I don't think it's used to arrive on the Island or leave it though.

Here's Ben from TMFT:
Most of them were recruited and brought here and as much as they love this place...as much as they would do anything to defend it...they need to know they can leave if they want to. The sub maintains that illusion.

Then Locke says So you're lying to them. and Ben says No., but I don't know what if anything Ben says to believe.

Dennis said...

Maybe the sub that Locke blew up was a fake, but their real sub, the Galaga, is hidden somewhere else.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Dabg I am off to school and the new podcast is up. I'll have to check it out when I get home later.

Dennis how's the task going... lol?

DeDJeZTeR said...

Just a test of my new... lol ... Avi
Cya

Amused2bHere said...

Here's a point I'm not sure has been made yet: When Ben says that the sub "maintains the illusion" that the others can "go home if they want to", I think the "illusion" he'd referring to is that thye think it's up to them when they leave. Ben really has the power to keep them there forever, but the others think they stay because they choose to. As long as the sub is there people can pretend that they have the power to leave at any time.

Ya think?

Dennis said...

DeDJeZTeR said... Dennis how's the task going... lol?

I think I'm done until there are some more pictures available. I can't make out some of the objects, especially the ones towards the top.

memphish said...

Amused2behere, I definitely think there is some amount of that though Ben has out and out refused to let Juliet leave multiple times. I'm with The Goog as to there being some sort of star gate, portal, etc.

Twinkle said...

Ummm...I thought 37 was middle aged. If you live on average to 75 then the math makes sense to me.

My Python quote: "Spam, Spam, Spam, Eggs, Spam!"

I stopped listening to the podcast as soon as you said that this was easily the top third episode of the season. I haven't watched it yet and didn't think it was anything big. I'm gonna wait now until I see it. Thanks for the heads up!

maven said...

Just listened to the podcast. I just want to put in my 2 cents re the Lost Official magazine. I picked up the recent issue and was hugely disappointed that I spent $7 for something that really had very little content. I had beautiful pics, but the articles were pretty lame. Yeah, it was cool that the blast door map was in there, but it's really nothing I haven't seen on various sites. I guess fans who don't access the web a lot would think it's telling them some good stuff. I felt ripped off, but I really only am basing this on one issue, so maybe I'm wrong?

maven said...

Furthermore...regarding the sub being real or not. I don't think it's real in the sense that it is capable of taking people on and off the island for long trips. It might be functional enough to go from the main island to others (a la Alcatraz). That would contribute to the sub being an illusion that Others can leave the island. Juliet might have been brought in the sub for the final leg of her journey to maintain that illusion that she came in a sub, therefore she can leave in a sub.

Brianne said...

Maven, I agree with you. The sub maintains the illusion that they can leave because the sub is there and that's how they think they got there. The illusion can be maintained because that is what they believe will take them back home, when in reality, that's not how they get there

experimentalfilm! said...

someone was talking about an epi in the last thread ? something about pickett and kates hubby ?

did sara miss something ???

maven said...

Sara: We were talking about the new show "Drive". There was a question on whether or not the actor who played Pickett was on playing the fake cop Poole. The lead actor playing Alex had played Kaye's cop hubby.

maven said...

*Kate...sorry

capcom said...

My favorite Python (outside of anything in The Holy Grail)is the Lumberjack Song! Heehee.

Sorry Dennis, I have probably not heard than a few seconds of any Manilow song.

I have trouble listening to any podcast on this computer, as it's too slow. What was said about the Lost magazine and dupes like me who buy it every month? :o) I agree, most of it is pretty lame but I like having the articles and pics that are usually in it that show set designs and such. Tx.

"I'm a lumberjack, hmm hm hm hmmmmmm...." :o)

LostIt said...

I've been thinking about the vaccine that Charlie gave Claire. He said that it was in the food drop, but we didn't see exactly where he got it from. What if he found it at Ethan's drop site? If so, why did he lie?

Monty Python quote: "This parrot has ceased to be!"

maven said...

"Ministry of Silly Walks" LOL

Amused2bHere said...

Monty Python quote: omgosh there's so many to choose from, and that's just from The Holy Grail...

"It's just a flesh wound!"

Although I would love to see someone (Hurley, maybe?) scream "run away!" the next time Smokey shows up. LOL

Amused2bHere said...

Capcom, I agree. The Lumberjack song is hysterical!

My sister and her husband LOVE Python. They even have a penguin on their telly (and can recite verbatim the whole skit).

Yes, my whole family has the geek gene.


wv=ygdwtck Did I tick off the vowel spirits?

Codysmom said...

amused, lol
Although I would love to see someone (Hurley, maybe?) scream "run away!" the next time Smokey shows up.

Yes, definitely Hurley!

How about...

To Ben, after his smart remark about the giant hampsters ..

Your mother was a hampster
And your father smelled of elderberries!

luckyguylikeme said...
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luckyguylikeme said...

Hello all! I haven't been on since Thursday evening, and just now caught up with all the comments since then. Ded, I love what you're doing with the clay models of sybmolic items! I had fun trying to figure out what everything was.

In response to all the talk about Danielle...

I was toying around with the idea that she is DHARMA. As a theory for what may have happened, maybe during a "war" between The Others and DHARMA, be it The Purge, The Incident, or whatever it may have been, maybe The Others released some sort of virus, a "sickness" if you will, into the DHARMA population. Whether The Others were naturally immune to this, or innoculated themselves, I think Danielle's crew may have gotten said disease, and in order to protect herself, she killed them.

I was looking at the transcript for Season 1, Episode 9: "Solitary," and what Danielle says is so confusing. Perhaps instead of a disease, she was talking about Smokey. I cannot tell. I just want to know what's up with this chick!

And one last thing... I don't know if this have ever been brought up before, but as far as I can remember, Smokey has never attacked anyone when they were alone. Can anyone confirm/deny this? It might not be important, just something interesting I noticed.

Brianne said...

luckyguylikeme

I believe Mr. Eko was alone when Smokey got him. All of the others that were with him went into the Pearl Station.

Amused2bHere said...

Ya know, I was just thinking...if there really are giant hamsters and a big wheel someplace...now *that* would be a definitive Jump-the-shark episode!

LostIt said...

"Fetchez la vache!"

Amused2bHere said...

Lostit, is that jump the shark? in um...french?

Amused2bHere said...

checking new avatar.............

Amused2bHere said...

trying a better picture?.......

Amused2bHere said...

Is it Wednesday yet?


Happy Lost Day!

DeDJeZTeR said...
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memphish said...

Happy LOST Day LoCos!

This morning's Doc Jensen is up. It does contain spoilers about tonight's episode and dense theories about philosophy. I scanned it, but won't give it much more thought until after tonight.

Lostit, why do I need to look for the cow? We found the cows and Locke blew them up (or near them up). Was that Monty Python too? I'm under-versed when it comes to Monty Python and my Alabama-raised ears have a hard time following the old TV shows. "It's just a flesh wound," is the most quoted line in our household.

Sayid'sgirl said...

Good Morning LoCos
Happy Lost Day

InEnglandAndLost said...

Morning/Afternoon Locos

Happy Lost day!!!

Hope tonight is a good one for y'all!

InEnglandAndLost said...

Hi Sayid'sgirl!!!

Brianne said...

Happy Lost day, everyone!

Sayid'sgirl said...

Hi inenglandandlost!

Dennis said...

Good Morning Locos, Happy Lost Day!

Here are the weekly ratings for Lost:

#20 - Total viewers for the week (12.1 million viewers)

#9 - Adults 25-54 (5.7 rating)

#6 - Adults 18-49 (5.2 rating)

Dennis said...
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InEnglandAndLost said...

Hi Dennis, Think it is spoiler related!!!

engineer27 said...

Greetings, TLC.

RE: Podcast -- The musical artist is not identified in the front page post. I think that tune was used before, so maybe the artist was mentioned in the past. Does anyone know who it is?

Obligatory Python Quote:
"If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy, would it!"

engineer27

Dennis said...

memphish said... Lostit, why do I need to look for the cow? We found the cows and Locke blew them up (or near them up). Was that Monty Python too?

Yes. It's from "The Holy Grail".

When King Arthur visits the french castle, they taunt him and tell him to go away. Then one of the french guards says "Fetchez la vache!", and they catapult a cow over the wall at Arthur.


I'm under-versed when it comes to Monty Python and my Alabama-raised ears have a hard time following the old TV shows.

I usually watch any British TV shows or movies with the closed captions turned on. :)

Dennis said...

DeDJeZTeR, I removed your post and reposted it below, minus spoilers.


DeDJeZTeR said...


My podcast thoughts...

Very well done as usual and well worth the listen. iTunes commenters are jerks.

< SPOILER DELETED >

Juliet fits in! She didn't three months into her visit, but now she is marked as one of them and has finally joined the flock.

Alpert can not leave any more than any one else can. He used to be able to leave. They all could, but since the Purpling, no one gets off the island. This is why Ben was letting Jack go, because he would have done what Desmond did and then came back. However, this might not be true because that might have been what happened before the Purpling.

Podcast guys,
You guys were obviously hit hard by the weather and didn't have time to read the blog. We were all over the symbol, and there is more to it than just what you mentioned in the PC.
My take in it is simple. I think it is the Male version of the mark. We saw Juliet get the females version.

If Rachel is a Shim (She/Him) And her baby is her own where did the egg come from. It's Juliet's of course. Juliet is a mother as well which is why she got hysterical in front of the monitor. It wasn't just her sister, but her sister and her Sister/Brothers creepy incest child... EWWWWWWWWWW

Well thats it for now.
C-ya later or tonight.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Anything seen or heard in the trailer immediatly following the broadcast is NOT considered a spoiler.

"There it is, the Monster"
"Where? Behind the Bunny?"
"No. It is the Bunny!"

DiggityDirge said...

Happy LOST day all. Going to lurk until the show.

Calrton & Damon said in the weeks podacast that something "fairly momentus" and "major" will happen in this weeks epi and for once the abc promo's can be believed. I am confused as hell becuase I don't see anything in the previews that seem to be shocking or major. Wonder what it is? Ideas?

Also mentioned in the podcast, the LOST video game for XBOX and PS3 should be out by summer. Maybe this is how we are supposed to keep busy this summer if there is no ARG.

See you all in a while.

ib4uc said...

Good morning Locos. Was thinking about something... when Claire goes to the psychic, does he push her to put the child up for adoption or does he insist that she raise the child herself? I can't remember. I think I recall him later telling Eko he was a fake.

I guess what I'm getting at is if he told her to put the child up for adoption, and that's why she was on the plane, maybe he has some connection to the others.

I don't know, I'm just wondering if there is more of a connection there or not.

engineer27 said...

ib4uc said...
... when Claire goes to the psychic, does he push her to put the child up for adoption or does he insist that she raise the child herself?


He first tells her that she has to raise the child herself or something really terrible is going to happen.

Then, when he has her eating out of his hand, he springs part 2 on her ... that the only other option is to take the child to this couple in LA that he found (presumably using his psychic insights).

Of course, it was all a scam and he was planning to get her to deliver the child to this couple all along.

The question of whether this guy was in on some conspiracy to get all of our losties on flight 815 is something up for debate. Although, David and Steve address the question on their Podcast (the current one, ep 20) and dismiss it as being too improbable.

ib4uc said...

diggity... I looked on DarkUFO and viewed the promos for tonight's episode. Yeah, I see a few things but since they are promos, they might be considered spoilers -- they might not have aired yet? I don't recall it being the same preview as I saw last week after the episode aired.

engineer27 said...

Comment on the Official Lost Podcast::

DL and CC just finished the script for this season's finale, which is on in 6 weeks. Does that mean that they are going to shoot, edit, and polish two hours (well, really 74 minutes) of high quality TV in only 6 weeks?

Yow!

ib4uc said...

engineer27... thanks. I guess that's all the more reason to listen to the podcast today.

Dennis said...

Sorry, Ded. I didn't see what you were talking in the US promo, and I didn't hear anything about it in the TLC podcast. I listened to everything, except for the spoilers.

I'm trying very hard to avoid spoilers since there are only 5 shocking episodes left until the cataclysmic season finale!

Dennis said...

ib4uc said... Good morning Locos. Was thinking about something... when Claire goes to the psychic, does he push her to put the child up for adoption or does he insist that she raise the child herself? I can't remember. I think I recall him later telling Eko he was a fake. I guess what I'm getting at is if he told her to put the child up for adoption, and that's why she was on the plane, maybe he has some connection to the others. I don't know, I'm just wondering if there is more of a connection there or not.

engineer27 said... Of course, it was all a scam and he was planning to get her to deliver the child to this couple all along.

I see it differently. Some couple wants a baby, so they are going to go through some elaborate plot involving a psychic to get it from chick in Australia?


Here is the quote from "Raised by Another"

MALKIN: It is crucial that you, yourself, raise this child.
CLAIRE: You mean with Thomas? Is he..
MALKIN: The father of this child will play no part in it's life, nor yours.
CLAIRE: So what exactly are you saying?
MALKIN: This child parented by anyone else, anyone other than you -- danger surrounds this baby. . .
CLAIRE: Danger?
MALKIN: Your nature, your spirit, your goodness, must be an influence in the development of this child.
CLAIRE: If Thomas and I don't get back together I'm putting this baby up for adoption. I just wanted to find out what would give the baby the happiest life.
MALKIN: There is no happy life -- not for this child, not without you.
CLAIRE: I don't. . .
MALKIN: It can't be another. You mustn't allow another to raise your baby.


He met Eko before he met Claire. He believed he was a fake, unitl he saw the "flashes" before his eyes about Claire and her baby. That's why he freaked out and initially told her to go away.

The reason he faked the adoption, was that he knew the plane was going to crash, and that she would survive, so he thought that would insure she would would raise the child herself.

engineer27 said...

Dennis said... The reason he faked the adoption, was that he knew the plane was going to crash, and that she would survive, so he thought that would insure she would would raise the child herself.

That means that there is no couple in LA waiting for Claire. I doubt we'll ever see this confirmed in the show.

Are you of the opinion that Malkin is a time-traveller like Desmond and Ms. Hawking?

CattyGirl said...

Happy Lost Day!

I've been very busy at work and unable to participate much, but know that I am trying to read everyone's comments and keep up.

maven said...

Another Happy Lost Day! Yea!

Just checking in and lurking around and waiting for tonight!

Love all the Monty Python memories! The one most imbedded in my memory is John Cleese as the Minister of Silly Walks!

Melissa_Lossa said...

Hi everyone -

Just stopping by. Work is a nightmare right now, but I'm camped out at my desk catching up on podcasts while I work. Steve, and David - you guys are so great!

I'll see everybody tonight!

CattyGirl said...

Is the live podcast on talkshoe tomorrow or next Thursday?

CattyGirl said...

I love the podcasts. One note I want to make about it. When you were semi-quoting Jack telling Juliet that he wouldn't be able to protect her and that she will be on her own, I think that the importance here is her answer because she replies that she is already on her own. Another words, I think the bottom line is that she does want off the island no matter who she double crosses.

Just my thoughts. :)

capcom said...

Nice avatar Amused! :-)

Ya know, now that we are more aquainted with Jules and how she got fooled into living the rest of her life on the island, the nerve of those Others to have a kangaroo trial and plan to sentence her to death! Geez! Unless the trial was a ruse to make Ben look like the good guy and save her life so then she would be even further inebted to him. Ya never know with this guy!

Ewwwwwwwwww, good thinking on the Juliet/Rachel-Inbred-Zombie-Child! I was surprised by Juliet's reaction as well, but I figured that perhaps Rachel and the child are the only family that she has left.

Dennis, that's what I got out of what the psychic said to Claire lastly, as well. He surprised himself by actually seeing her future (somewhat like the fake psychic finally having something legit happening in the movie Ghost). So he sent her on this "trip" on the plane that he foresaw crashing on the island, so Aaron would not be raised or influenced by anyone (at least during his formative years) other than Claire.

capcom said...

One Python quote I would like to see on Lost is if someone gets asked a lot of questions (which would never happen on Lost tho!), and the interrogatee says, "I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!".....and, well, you know what's next. :o)

memphish said...

How do you think the psychic got the airline ticket he gave Claire? It's hard to believe a psychic would shell out $1000 or so for an airline ticket. Do you think it's possible Christian gave it to him? Or Aunt Lindsey?

What if Christian somehow found out Claire was pregnant and paid the psychic to try to talk her into keeping the baby, his grandchild. Then when that failed he wanted her to go to Los Angeles where he'd have been I know you don't want to know me, but I can help you raise the child.

Now why he'd have spent 4 days getting hammered if that was his plan, I don't know, but if the psychic is a fake, why would have bothered with Claire all those months and why would he have stopped the reading in the first place? Maybe both Christian and Aunt Lindsey were in contact with the psychic and he was waiting to see which would be the highest bidder.

If he isn't a fake, I guess he may have just told Eko that to get him off his case.

bigdog said...

MALKIN: It can't be another. You mustn't allow another to raise your baby.

Or you must not allow an OTHER to raise your child.

Keep aaron away from Ben

Monty Python - "Its just a flesh wound. - still use it today

capcom said...

Good thoughts about someone else wanting Claire on the plane/island Memphish.

I really got the impression though that the psychic was a fake, and then he got that really surpised look on his face when he got the true vision of her future and that's why he freaked out, because it might have been the first authentic vision that he ever had in his fake psychic career. And then changed his mind about her keeping Aaron.

Now whether or not The Island, or some other kind of force interference, allowed him to see the baby's future is up for grabs with me. I have no explanitory thoughts for that part.

capcom said...

Bigdog, my thought too! Either TPTB thru that in to make us laugh or to be cute....or they put those lines in as a clue.

capcom said...

BTW, sooooooo looking forward to another Dez episode tonight! :o)

Dennis said...

engineer27 said... Are you of the opinion that Malkin is a time-traveller like Desmond and Ms. Hawking?

No. I don't believe there is any time traveling or worm holes or anything like that going on - it's too Sci-Fi.

I think Desmond "dreamed" Ms. Hawkins, and I think his "flashes" are just premonitions.

Brianne said...

Bigdog, I agree as well! It would figure that we were aready "told." And it would figure that when we were "told" it would a play on words.

Fenris said...

Hi All, just wanted to pop in and let you know I've posted a great big Smokey/Cerberus theory over on my Blog, "The Lost Bullet Points".

I don't think I've plugged the blog here before, mostly because a lot of it is just expanding on theories I've already posted here. But it's basically a direct access point to my brain and as I type so much and theories so much it was a logical step.

Enjoy and feel free to comment. Do check out the smokey thing because I do think I may have cracked it!

capcom said...

Awesome Fenris! Will do.

maven said...

Fenris: Checked out your awesome blog and left a comment! Everyone should go visit!

Dennis said...

Fenris (or Maven),

Is any of the Smokey theory based on any spoilers, or is it pure speculation? I'd like to check it out, but I'm on Code Orange spoiler alert.

maven said...

Dennis: I don't believe there are any spoilers in Fenris' blog. Just educated speculation!

DeDJeZTeR said...

Dennis,

If You listen closely to the one that was directly after the episode last week, it also has a scene with all four of the guys looking up in the air and you can here what you called a spoiler.

capcom said...

Me too Dennis, I want to be as surprised as possible this season!

scoutpost said...

Good thoughts on the Claire situation. I don't really have anything to add except-
Happy LOST day everybody!

Going to go read Fenris' blog.

Oh which phrase to choose from:
Brave, brave Sir Robin...
No! Spank me!
I want to sing......!
RUN AWAY!!

Clearly I spent too much time watching the Holy Grail in college.

martysbaybay said...

Fenris

Checked out your blog. Fascinating stuff, totally enjoyed it. Left you a comment.

Brianne said...

We are no longer the Knights-Who-Say-Nee...We are now the Knights-Who-Say....eckieckibuhtangzookdala-nu-won!

Nee!

SHHH!

Dennis said...

What is your favorite color?

Blue. No yel-- Arrrrrghhhhhhh!

Brianne said...

(the Black Knight to King Arthur)

Come back here or I'll bite your legs off!

takes a village said...

Happy Lost Day everyone.
Fenris,
Nice observation and theory about Smokey.That picture of Cerebus is great.Looks like he could really take a bite out of crime;which may be one of his functions anyway.

Enjoy the show, Loco's

takes a village said...

That was Cerberus

chucklez3 said...

so......back for the show tonight.

talk to you guys/gals later.

experimentalfilm! said...

can we think of a different term around here than "lurking" .. that makes us all sound like sad loners who live in our grandmas basement and eat macaroni and cheese all day .

capcom said...

Hi Chuck!

chucklez3 said...

gee, fake sub huh?

who was it that said there was "NO WAY FOR ANYONE TO LEAVE THE ISLANDS"??

oh that's right. ME!!!

HAAA!!!!

now, if someone would just confirm that joop is alvar hanso, i'll be set!!!

hahaha, j/k on that part.

chucklez3 said...

and by "fake", i'm speaking that it doesn't (didn't) work.

it was a facade.

and no. i don't think they used it. raise your hand if you've ever HEARD a sub "emerge" from the depths. nah. and you can't just pull up beside the boat in that thing. and what happened to it when they took the boat?

no, the problem with THAT storyline is the fact that there were TWO men (Jin and Sayid) within 5 feet of each other 200 yards from the boat and facing the same direction (backs to the boat). that whole "plan" never has set well with me. Sayid is supposed to be better than that. those are BASIC combat skills.

experimentalfilm! said...

wouldn't it be great if borat landed on the island ?

i think that would make the show VERRRNICE

chucklez3 said...

hey capcom.

hey sara. oh and mac-n-cheese rocks!! hahaha.

capcom said...

EF, when online conferencing forums first came out in the late 1980's on corporate intranet systems called VM (remember Virtual Machine anyone?) the forum owners used to call lurkers who never posted, "ROMs", for read-only-members. :o) Of course, I don't know if anyone wants to say, "I've just been ROM-ing lately and decided to post", heh-heh. It was meant as a disparaging name for forum users anyway, by the snooty programmers.

chucklez3 said...

i think tom hanks and wilson are somewhere there.

capcom said...

Your right Chucklez, it was a VERY bad plan (that one part of the TPTB's writing hasn't set well with me) and we never heard any swooshing or other surfacing type sounds. That whole business is up in the air for me, I didn't like it and don't know what to think.

BUT, some Other did say that the sub was back, when they brought in a wounded Colleen. Oh well. Time will tell.

experimentalfilm! said...

haha well i think ROM is pretty snazzy . and its relatable .. ethan ROM ! :P

chucklez3 said...

also, don't forget that, THAT was the same "storyline" with the dad-blame four-toed statue!!!

ugh.

chucklez3 said...

maybe the others came from between the toes of the foot like dermatophites!!!! yikes!!!

Melissa_Lossa said...

capcom - been waiting all day to second your feelings about tonight's episode.

Mmmm.... Desmond.... :)

Darkaardvark said...

So chucklez, you think that Richard Alpert, Ethan Rom (et al.) came to the island after working off-island but have never been back-and-forth since?

And how are they getting to the island? By plane? I could buy that... maybe. They definitely have planes. And I think everyone's been waiting for a landing-strip reveal since Season 1.

I'm not convinced that it's impossible physically to leave the island, just that:

1. There's no way of doing it without special instructions from Ben. (The exact compass direction given to Michael).

2. Ben is never going to give that, nor the means to leave the island, to anyone unless he has to.

I believe that Michael and Walt did "escape" the island in some sense of the word. They're not wandering around a "snowglobe", as Desmond described it, or they'd have been back long before now. Yes, I know that the actors left, but they wouldn't have if it was written for them to return a la Desmond in Season 3.

So, have they literally returned to humanity? I'm not positive. But I think they've gone somewhere.

capcom said...

Hey, you're right EF! :o)

Yes Chucklez, and I hope that we don't have to wait until Season 4 to see the rest of the statue! But we probably will, there's too much going on now that needs to be wrapped up and revealed and cliff-hangered. :-(

capcom said...

Right Melissa! Like Homer Simpson would say....."Mmmmmmmmmmm, Desssssmonnnnnnnd, rglrglrglrrglrgldrool" :o)

DeDJeZTeR said...

Yeah I agree Cap, but if they really do do (snicker) a Dharma-centric episode, you would have people on the island finding stuff with flashbacks to either a seprate type story or flashbacks specific to what they are discovering and there could be a lot revealed in an episode like that.

chucklez3 said...

no one leaves. its an illusion. no one "stationed there" that is.

they check in but they dont check out.

Melissa_Lossa said...

I would LOVE a dharma story. How great would that be?

If they do one, they have to have a cameo by Roger Workman, preferably one mentioning his drinking and/or beer runs.

capcom said...

Right Ded. And I too would lovvvvvvvve a Dharma story! It would be so TLE, and possibly talk about all their weird science, which would amuse all of us science geeks. And then the ratings would go down again. :o)

DeDJeZTeR said...

The ratings wouldn't go down though, because we are the only ones left watching... lol

New Avi ---------------------->
Got bored with access to Lego Digital Designer.

capcom said...

Good thought on the ratings. Do you think that the ratings have leveled off now, to represent the remaining hard core Losters?

Hey! It's the sub!

DeDJeZTeR said...

In the Podcast they asked if the airport was in Portland?
There is tropical vegataion so I assume it's still in Miami.

Chuck, so it's a giant Roach motel. I like it it. You are definitely on to something there... lol

chucklez3 said...

hahaha.

thanx ded.

DeDJeZTeR said...

Also, I find it very amuuuuuuzing that when Rachel says to bring her back in one piece, Alpert responds with a snicker..."We'll Try."

And that when Jack says the Juliet is under his protection she shoots a look up like ooooohhhhh re you gonna get it later.... lol

maven said...

All this talk about the sub still has me thinking that it is only used for short hauls and when it's needed to go back and forth to the Hydra station (for example). It is there to give everyone not fully committed to being there the illusion of control to leave the island. That's why Juliet woke up in the sub...she thinks the sub brought her to island and it could have taken her off the island. But I think it only takes someone to a point (maybe another island where there is a landing strip).

Great avi, Ded! And am soooo looking forward to tonight's epi! Desmond, yea! LOL

Melissa_Lossa said...

Okay, I'm testing out a new avi in honor of tonight.

Melissa_Lossa said...

Watching last week's episode... Sawyer's so perky. I think he really likes this leader thing. Too bad Jack and to come back and ruin it.

capcom said...

I agree about the sub that we see, being for short trips. Or for tricking people like Jules into thinking that that's how she got there and how she will leave.

Yuk, I get the creeps thinking about any woman being out cold, when Ethan is around, and in small spaces as well. :-p

capcom said...

P.S. Nice avi Melissa!

Melissa_Lossa said...

thanks, capcom :)

I love Hurley's explanation of what happened to Ethan - "Charlie got upset"

Sorry, just re-watching and catching new things. :)

CattyGirl said...

Is the live podcast on talkshoe tomorrow or next Thursday?

chucklez3 said...

so......what do you think of the new avatar dedjezter?

memphish said...

Evening LoCos. Less than 30 minutes to go for those of us in the right (directionally and not necessarily any other sense) half of the States. Of course, it's already aired in Canada. See you on the next thread. I like your new avi. Melissa_Lossa.

memphish said...

Chucklez3, I like your new avi too.

capcom said...

Right Melissa, it has to be the biggest understatement in TV history. :o) I'm rewatching too!!

Nice avi Chuck! You should put on it that "Others check but...". :o)

capcom said...

What are your silver dancers Memphish?

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maven said...

All your avi's are so creative! It's the highlight of my week when you guys change them all! I just stick with my cute cat! (Maybe because I'm lazy!) LOL

DeDJeZTeR said...

Chucklez,

That is sweeeeet!!!!

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