Hosts David A Dein and Steve the Goog Guglich take a short visit to LA X. Along the way Steve proves he's obsessed with Marvel Comic Stories and David wonders what would make "The Forgotten" more unforgettable. Plus more LOST speculation than ever before.
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Episode 68 - LA X
Monday, February 08, 2010
The Lost Community Podcast - Episode 68
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Yeah, sorry that we got so carried away Melissa, must have been the double ep. Hope that you feel better now. :-)
Great to see you again 2costa!
you all are so chatty I have a heck of a time just keeping up !!! But I'm here reading even if I don't post too much.
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Thanks, sorry, and have a nice evening :p
Sorry to hear you were sick, ML! Does it make you feel better that so many of us...new and old...are here at TLC?
Welcome back, 2Costa....I have a feeling you and MEL are going to his it off great!
Listening to podcast now....
LOL Maven. ;-)
Hey Melissa, hope you're feeling fine now. Looks like some of the new folks have as much to say as the regulars!
David & Steve: I agree that Locke heard MIB in the cabin. If he was a prisoner there and escaped once the ash line was broken, that doesn't explain why we saw Smokey in so many instances. If Smokey and MIB are the same entity, could it be possible that it can split in two and be both things?
Happy Birthday Scoutpost; I almost missed it.
I'm still over a hundred posts, and a Podcast behind,but I'm gaining on you guys.
It's too bad that Marvin C. from the commercial last night didn't speak in his "Don't be absurd!" voice.
Hi 2costa welcome back.
New podcast, nice will listen after I catch up on the comments.
Ok caught up. ML sorry, I should have wished you well. Hope you're feeling better.
Eight more inches of snow coming tomorrow. Yea!! Not. lol
OTL..Well, you brought up Hitler and Dahmer,,so lets go with every socio-path not just those two..The contention is,,that Because Man is conflicted in his existence , the struggle between the external and the internal,,Man develops a polarized way of thinking and perceiving,,and that habitual way of thinking and perceiving,,Creates Hitlers and Dahmers,,and not only does it create them,, but it creates societies that Accepts the Hitlers and Dahmers as leaders.
There is still a missing character in LOST tho..Maybe a character will be converted to it,maybe not,,anything is possible, The missing character is LOVE,,and I don;t mean luv or love,,I mean LOVE. Kate brushed up against it with saving Benito with full knowledge of what he would become...that LOVE and beyond. This the only place for Jacob to go,,in unison with MIB.
I don't believe we/ they are done with the Swan Hatch yet. There is mitey energy still encased in cement. Perhaps in there is the LOVE I find missing in season 6.
Something to think about while the next storm dumps.
MEL
2costa-this is from LP for the Japanese translation:
Japanese
MEL- if your freed MIB can prompt to a unified One that has compassion for all things-whose goal is to appreciate everything as much as possible and help others to do the same- then more power to him. But MIB himself seems more to me like the driver who will crash down the road with no regard for others on it- to get to his destination.
This idea of going round and round the same time is seeming more like it- it would seem that you would know the future if you kept experiencing the same thing-slightly changed. And a meticulous fellow could keep at it (Jacob), where another might be driven crazy by playing too many games of Candyland and start throwing things- or people.
JT...A Breton was the first to acknowledge that the misdemeanor courts would be overflowing for the first few months if all of a sudden every one took up Surrealism.
Folks get wrapped around the axle of Freedom and the two sides of the coin of it..well..thats what you get with Polarized thinking..Breton's message was To BE FREE of Even That..Free enough to Rise Above the polarized conflicted existence. Its like this analogy..Black..White..two opposites,,each saying they are the rite way the correct way the only way..in their opposition to the other..their conflict just escalates and escalates until like the MIB said on the beach..destruction. Well in todays world destruction means nuclear war..so..this conflicted existence is not a viable option anymore. Breton's message was simply..take the two opposites in a conflict..external/ internal on a one man level for example..and with the freedom to Imaginate, unencumbered,,mix the two together and create a 3 or 4th or 5th reality..rise above the mundane acceptance of either the black or the White..Sur-real.. means an extra or above reality..So.. you can't be or have surrealism,, without conflict. This goes back to what OB8 was saying about the past of LOSTIES has merit, has value,, they shouldn't be trying to wipe it out. Using the conflict to motivate to a newer reality rather than the conflict ending with one winner and one defeated only to repeat the cycle endlessly.
So..to be able to appreciate everything as much as possible,,as you put it..is Mankind recognizing that each of us is a poet or has a talent or potential just waiting to be discovered in our imagination. Accessing ones Imagination as free as possible..is a unique and wonderful experience. That does NOT say everything you find there is YOU,, is Your Talent, Your potential. This is where MIB Taking Control of the Conscience, Smokie ,comes from. Smokie seemed to rampage at will.. at anything. Now..there is control. The joy and unification , at peace with myself I experience when working words.. or when photographing..doesn't mean I hate music or Hate dance or hate architecture or hate painting or hate theater..It means I am happy when I create with words and am photographing..That Happyness brings me peace with myself. I am Whole. I am not conflicted. When I am at peace with myself.. I am a lot more likely to be at peace with the world.
So two sides of being free.. misses the point. MIB Locke keeps deceit, BEN, close to himself,,so he knows who he isn't,,just as much as he knows,,Who He Is.
Again , so far,,LOST hasn't got to the idea of Everything With Love in a big way. Perhaps that will be Sayid's calling. Perhaps not. The point is ..careening down a one way street, the wrong way,,isn't being Surreal..but stringing a tite rope above the street and having a giraffe walk the rope with a balancing pole could be.
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MEL
Thanks MEL- I can't keep my eyes open enough to see it all tonight- but it's there for the brain to mull in dreams.
Yea..Must get enough sleep tonite,,so i can stay up late tomorrow.
MEL
Yes,tomorrow will be another long night. See you all tomorrow.
Just bought yet another LOST TeeFury shirt. Oy vey.
Briliant Mel! I think I get what your saying. Is it something like this?
Encyclopedia of Chickens
Happy LOST day all.
How are placed we for casting spoilers for the remake of Hawaii Five-O ?
Teefury has a new Tshirt for today. it says who will protect the island with smokey the bear on it. Cute.
Someone ran over our cat last night. I found him this morning dead. My son is going to freak. I raised that kitty by a bottle so I'm none too happy this morning. what a way to start off the morning. :-(
That is sad news Lisa, so sorry. I know how hard that is.
Thanks Chris, yeah not a way to wake up that's for sure. Glad it's a lost day. So will they have the captions on the repeat before the regular show ? does anyone know ?
@Martyn, you feeling better yet ? I hope so.
Happy LOST Day!
Happy Lost Day!
We getting more snow I hope my power doesn't go out tongiht.
Typos already I need some caffine. I think I'll blame it on my keyboard. Sometimes can hit the letters over and they don't work.
zort
If you're talkig about a certain actor we all know. maven posted that in the last post.
It doesn't bother me but I'm can't speak for everyone.
Happy 6.03 day!
Well- laughing at Future's chickens and very sad for Lisa's cat. We had one that grew up with the kids and died a couple of years ago- still missing our old, crazy feline.
Looking forward to the show-is the title name fair game at this point? If you know it- isn't it interesting that it is in the present tense, and the prior one it matches is in the past. As though the new reality is the real present time?
Oh Lisa how could I miss your post about your poor kitty. It's so sad when you lose your pets. They're like your best friends.
According to my local shedule they're repeat the second part of LA X but it doesn't say whether it's enhanced or not.
Lisa, sorry to hear about your beloved kitty. I gave my kitty extra kisses this morning in memory if your little guy!
JT - Either that or it's just a clever play on words because one of the supposedly big questions will be answered. (Trying to not say anything that would give it away to those who haven't seen the title)
JT, yeah, I think it's both a nod to the referenced episode, and the central action of tonight's eppy.
@Lisa. Sorry about your kitty. It's so hard to lose your BFF (best feline friend). I believe ABC is repeating a captioned version of the 2nd hour of LA X tongight at 8:00.
Still trying to get through all the comments from the last post. Yikes! It may take a while.
Oh, and happy Lost day.
thanks everyone. I'm not usually such a baby about stuff but looking at him this morning bothered me a lot. I have a huge problem with death these days I guess. I don't like it. He was like a big baby since I bottle raised him. thanks for taking time on our Lost day to console a cat lady lol
Sorry to hear the sad news about the cat Lisa.
As Maven has already said what I was going to about Daniel Dae Kim then I won't post again.
Beware of Digital spy at the moment there are some hints at what is to come.
Also has anyone seen the news about the encrypted string that is flying around that apparently has the ending to LOST in it if it can be decrypted.
Happy Lost Day! Let's cherish each one! :)
@Lisa: So, so sorry about your kitty and having to be the one to find him! Pets are family, too!
Sorry about posting that info re Daniel...being a spoiler never entered my mind! I thought it was something he lined up after the show ended filming!
Maven, Personally I don't really think it is a spoiler as the series hasn't even started yet.
It's like us saying that Matthew Fox was signed up to play Jack before LOST started.
I don't worry much about being spoiled on anything except Lost. . .
Zort-all I want to know is how to avoid this encrypted whatchamacallit.
Hey all - thanks for the nice thoughts. I'm feeling much better today. It's been a rough week, though - Mr. Mel and I both lost our jobs last Tuesday.
Lisa, so sorry to hear about your kitty! What an awful thing to wake up to.
At least it's Lost Day!
The LFL scores are up.
I came in 1117 over all. :) But I'm came in 6th in our group.
Oh my gosh Melissa_Lossa that's rough. Hope you'll both be able to find new employment soon.
So sorry to hear that Melissa-lossa. I hope it you find something quickly.
Jt - If you have to decrypt the whatchamacalit to see it, I should be safe from it forevermore. . . lol
G'day Locos.
Mel, I'd say that we have indeed seen some honest True Love on Lost. The most recent being Sawyer and Juliet, that was very pure and nowhere near the kind of fake-lerv infatuation between Sawyer and Kate (Skaters don't be haters, heheh). And when Jin apologized to Sun in the tent after Juliet ratted out Sun's affair to save her, well that was the most beautiful act of apologetic love I've ever seen, even in real life. And the mother-child love of Claire's and Sun's (and Ellie's?) toward their children was very real and touching. Then there's Dez and Penneh, who can forget their Christmas phone call *sniff*. And I supposed I could put the final stage of Charlie and Claire's relationship in the true love category as well. Oh, and Dr.Chang bouncing baby Miles on his lap, that was good too. :-)
I'd say that H-5-O casting is not spoilers, as we all know that Lost is ending and the actors have to find other jobs.
So sorry about your cat Lisa. :-(
Also very sorry about your jobs Melissa!
Happy LOST Day, Everyone!!
@Lisa♠Maladylis: Sorry about your kitty!
@ML: Glad you're feeling better, and sorry to hear about the unemployment! You'll find something soon, I'm sure!
I haven't been on here since last year...just marking my spot so I can attempt to read the +1000 comments from last week's epi.
I can't wait for tonight! Anxious to see what happens with the Flash-sideways, MIB Locke, etc.
Nice to see everyone again!!!
Lisa said to hear about your cat.
ML I'm shocked! Did you work at the same place or just really crappy circumstances conspired? We'll be rooting for you both to find an even better job very quickly.
Hi Brianne
Welcome back.Good luck catching up. :)
Sayid'sgirl said...
The LFL scores are up.
I came in 1117 over all. :) But I'm came in 6th in our group.
Let's see if I can manage to link them. . .
Results
Congratulations Bigblueman! Looks like you're in the lead over here.
Thanks lost2010. I guess I should have done that. :)
OK, before I hibernate (keeping myself spoil free until the UK airing) a theory, based on the cabin.
Smokey is MIB. We know this. Smokey was charging around the island from day one. The cabin was a smoke-free home thanks to the circle of ash.
In the cabin was where Jacob has/was/is planning his defence to the loophole, that he has seen coming. Like with chess, he's two moves ahead. In there he can instruct the Others without Smokey finding out, and set in motion his plans. He can also summon, and at times protect, others. Smokey finds out, finds a way to trick someone into breaking the ash circle (Hurley charging around) and starts using it to try and manipulate his own set of pawns, either to find out what Jacob had in play, or to work against it.
Sounds feasible, no?
@ML: Oh, dear...sorry to hear about you and your husband getting a double whammy! Hope employments comes back to you soon!
And, as usual, I'm in the bottom 3 of the TLC group in the LFL! :)
ML, wow, so sorry to hear about the jobs, how horrible to have that to both of you at once !! Do you have a back up plan ?? I sure hope so. hugs
Thanks, everyone - we're pretty confident. And the place we were working was so miserable, this is kind of a relief!
Happy Lost Day.
Sorry Lisa,That is realy sad.I hope your Son is ok.
Melissa_; That is tough to hear. Tabula Rasa. Maybe you and Mr. Mel can go someplace nice to get away for a bit,to take the edge off.
LFL;
My team started off well for a change. Any of our Lost ARGers participating?
Is there any way we could get a post to discuss the new episode, please?
Amy Lynn
Melissa usually doesn't make a new episode post until right before the episode starts.
Are you wanting to discuss tonight's episode right now?
I had forgot about LFL, another thing to smile about.
The full list of LFL from TLC is :
Bigblueman
Lost2010
Lossa's Losties
Detroit Blue Herons
TaVillage
Sayid's Army
UC is lost in time, space, and sanity
TheLostZort
The Roogish Trahans
They've all lostit
ib4uc
Memphish
BlackSwan
You Don't Know Jack
Sterling
Maven
Bigdog
Elizabeth's Wicked Lost
JulietsRevengeSquad
Good night all I'm ging to leave you again now until I can see the new episode.
Night zort
See you after you watch the show.
night night Zort, hope you get to see it soon ! Have a great evening !
We do have pop ups for the re showing of the LA X part 2.
SG, let us know if there's anything good. Watching Hollywood week of American Idol!
Thanks for letting me know, SG!
Well, that's confusing. In the new timeline the popups reference Kate's story in the old one. They talk about how she is being brought from Australia by Mars and how she was acquitted of murder at the trial- which hasn't happened yet in the new timeline.
JT
Things aren't the same in the new timeline. Like Hurley being lucky now.
I didn't know that the translators name was Lennon. I just thought people thought he looked like John Lennon was why they were calling him that. lol
@SG, yeah, I was surprised by that, too. Maybe he's a really, really big Lennon fan.
They said Juliet knew the Other's could help Ben because she was an Other. I was never sure if she knew or not.
Have fun with Episode 3 gang! Catch you all later. :)
Lisa, so very sorry to hear about your cat :(
Melissa, hope there are new jobs just around the corner for you & hubby... onwards and upwards.
I will be staying away from here soon too until I get to watch the ep in a few hours. As for the episodes title (which I have been avoiding... must've seen it at tv.com :( ), I thinking that as has been mentioned a bit lately, the what isn't so important as the why. I do tend to pick up on the what's, the physical things usually, but they usually don't turn out to be that important. She may have killed someone other than her father, but she was still trying to kill him... were the reasons the same?
Is there any significance to Sun and Jin not being married (are they even engaged?)?. If the island is sunk, was Rose cured in the Aussie outback? I'm not sure these points are important in the grand scheme of things, but time will (hopefully!) tell
Argh, still no new post? Can we discuss 6.03 here? LOL. We're going to start eating dinner in a few minutes and I won't have time to switch posts.
Happy Lost Day, but not such a happy day for Lisa and Mel.. wow!
Mel, I thought your side of Michigan was doing so much better than us here, so I'm sad and surprised to hear your bad news about your jobs!
Lisa, I'm so sorry to hear about your kitty. Our pets are part of the family and it's upsetting to everyone when something happens. xoxo
I didn't really do so good on the LFL, I'm surprised there's anybody below me on that list. LOL!
And I couldn't believe how many comments I missed on the last post by not being around! (trying not to slip any spoilers that I know) I don't know if I'll ever be able to catch up on that! LOL!
The ash is a barrier to keep the Smoke Monster out of the temple.
It surrounded the cabin. When it was broken it allowed the Smoke Monster to take over the cabin.
I have snow delays and cancellations blocking my pop-ups! ;-(
New Post!
Don't worry Amy Lynn,usually about 8:50.
"Ben witnessed Locke turn into the Smoke Monster"
Here we go - New Post!
Lisa- soooo sorry about your cat!
Here's a tie between MIB (linked to Widmore) that maybe goes beyond the theme of just wanting to go home. There's a war- there's been lots of talk of being on sides.
we saw Jacob pick his team by touch, and possibly visiting Ilana (My guess is an already assembled team). The team seems to have no rhyme or reason
But think about this one...we have two people who can talk to dead people... Miles (freighty) and Hurley (815)... or could it be Miles vs. Hurley... same talent vs. same talent.
I also just picked up on the Fear and Trembling... reference to sacrifice of Abraham of Issac... who is the son? Christian sacrificing Jack? or is the son Aaron, is that why Claire said that he should never be brought back?
5 minutes and counting...
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