If a tree falls in the forest, and no one is around, did it make a sound? Find out in the latest podcast, where hosts David A Dein and Steve "The Goog" Guglich re-rehash the first four episodes of the hit ABC television show LOST - Pilot 01, Pilot 02, Tabula Rasa, and Walkabout.
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If you saw Transformers, there is a trailer for a mysterious new movie being produced by J.J. Abrams. The movie doesn't have a title yet, so it is being called 1-18-08 and/or Cloverfield. It does not seem to be LOST related, so I have created a separate blog, Cloverfield Clues, if you want to find out more and "play" along.
Saturday, July 07, 2007
The Lost Community Podcast - Episode 32
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1 – 200 of 278 Newer› Newest»It looks like Thursday, July 26th is going to be THE day to go to ComicCon:
1:30-3:30 Paramount Pictures—Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures and Nickelodeon Movies present a bold new vision for the future of adventure. Join us for a one-of-a-kind presentation put together just for the fans at Comic-Con as we look at such highly-anticipated films as Beowulf, The Spiderwick Chronicles, Stardust, Hot Rod, Iron Man, and the next installments of Indiana Jones and Star Trek, plus a few surprises. Appearing in person: JJ Abrams, Robert Downey Jr., Jon Favreau, Neil Gaiman, Roger Avary and SNL's Andy Samberg. Hall H
5:00-6:30 Lost Season 4 — If the Lost finale was any indication of things to come, you will not want to miss this panel! Co-creator/executive producer Damon Lindelof and executive producer Carlton Cuse will discuss the exciting new season of ABC’s Lost, all leading up to the ultimate series finale. They’ll spotlight bonus features from the 3rd season DVD box set, preview the new Lost video game, take questions from the audience and perhaps serve up more surprises. Ballroom 20
Here is a sneak peak at the full schedule.
by the way, on the voicemail of Ethan Haas, the Mezin left the message that ended with "....1078, 1078, 107.." and it ends.
do these numbers hold signifigance???
It's getting easier and easier to be in the Top Ten! LOL
I'll never forget ComicCon '06 and what an exciting evening it was getting live updates about Rachel Blake's appearance from the few of us that got to go. Memories....
now that i'm next to NYC, i'd love to have an opportunity to go "live" with this! hahaha
Chucklez3,
What voicemail?
http://www.box.net/shared/mtjtpg8pd1
Where did that come from?
go to "nonsense". then click on "stay underground".
in the comments section of the top paragraph.
eh.....I'll just post it.
http://stayunderground.blogspot.com/
just under "find the mayor"!!!
The transcription factor cKrox was originally identified as a protein that bound to a negative transcription regulatory element in the murine alpha1(I) collagen promoter. We recently reported the cloning and characterization of human cKrox (hcKrox). Overexpression of hcKrox in NIH3T3 fibroblasts efficiently repressed the promoters of the fibronectin and alpha1(I) collagen genes (70-90%) in transient transfection assays and suppressed the endogenous genes in hcKrox expressing permanent cell lines. We have now isolated genomic clones and cDNAs encoding two novel transcription factors related to hcKrox termed hcKrox-beta and hcKrox-gamma (the original clone is now referred to as hcKrox-alpha). Both contain three kruppel-like zinc-finger DNA binding motifs that are 71-78% identical to those of hcKrox-alpha. The NH(2)-terminus of all three proteins contains a POZ domain, a conserved 120 amino acid motif involved in transcriptional repression and protein dimerization. RT-PCR experiments demonstrate that all three hcKrox family members are expressed in foreskin and dermal fibroblasts. Transient transfection studies in NIH3T3 fibroblasts demonstrate that hcKrox-alpha -beta and -gamma, as well as the murine cKrox-beta homologue, LRF, suppress transcription driven by promoters for the alpha1(I) and alpha2(I) collagen, fibronectin and elastin genes. Electrophoretic mobility shift assays and coimmunoprecipitation studies suggest that homo- and heterodimerization occurs between cKrox family members. Dimer formation is influenced by amino acids in the NH(2)-terminal POZ domain and the Zn(+2)-finger region. Immunoprecipitation studies indicate that cKrox can form heterodimers in solution in the absence of DNA. Thus, a multi-gene family exists that can coordinately regulate several extracellular matrix genes and has the potential to form many heterodimeric transcription factors.
http://library.thinkquest.org/C006353/mezin.html
i know that long paragraph might mean nothing to most of us, but i looked up CKROX and basically, just take in the overall meaning up there. maybe CKROX refers to some sort of elemental factor for the film???
what day is comicon? I remember as a lad i met frank miller at the chicago comicon in like 1991...
Chucklez, why don't you post that CKROX stuff at my CloverfieldClues blog :)
I just posted up the entire video message of Van Mantra.
2costa,
ComicCon is 4 days: Thu, July 26 - Sun, July 29
However, the LOST related stuff will be on Thursday.
Dennis;
I am having trouble navigating the Haas site.As soon as the screen pops up,the cursor turns to an hour glass,and freezes.The error says site not responding.I even re-installed Flash Player,and it didn't help.Any ideas?
Chucklez3;
I hope you are feeling better today.
i'm okay village. thanks.
dennis: i posted them on the other blog. should i delete them from here??
Posting all the vid sequences like that made me listen to them better, thanks Dennis. What the guy is saying about Ethan Haas reminds me of that supposed guy from the future, John Titor, who came to our time to look for an old IBM computer, and left all kinds of messages for us about the future.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titor
Also, see Art Bell sites. :o)
Takes a Village,
The only thing I can suggest is clearing your cache file.
In IE, click Tools > Internet Options, then click the delete files and check the delete all offline content box.
Locke's Dad was on 4400 tonight!
Holy moly...4400 (lostit). I have am just about to watch the Season 2 finale. I start season 3 tomorrow. Why had I not watched that show before last week. YIKES!
Hey all!
I see the Cloverfield ARG has gotten lots of attention from recovering TLE addicts.
I'm afraid, very afraid!
I hope you are feeling better, Chucklez.
Had to order "A Wrinkle in Time", my Library was out of it, and I refuse to pay retail so I got the trilogy for $8, shipping included, from Half.com. I just hope it gets here in time to read before the discussion.
Only 3 days before HP5:The Order of the Phoenix!
Morning LoCos!
We have VBS at my church this week, so I'll have my mornings full of rising 3rd graders and 1/2 my afternoons with my son and 4-year-old niece, so I won't be around much this week. I'm going to have to hope Dennis and Chucklez keep up with the ARG and that I can catch up via Dennis's site.
But fear not, I still have some LOST QOTDs for what I hope is your enjoyment. Today -- in The Moth how does Locke find Sayid in the jungle using the transceiver when he's been at the caves with Charlie or boar hunting and skinning all day?
thanx dennis for info
We'll know the Emmy nominees in 10 days, but you might want to start working on your outrage.
Of course, we all hope that Lost sweeps all the Emmys, but the reality is that there is pretty stiff competition out there. I'm hoping that we do at least get in the nomination phase (I enjoy Gray's, but how can that be there and not Lost?).
Thanks dennis,
still working on it.
It's probably something simple though.
dennis,
I just got in.
I used another internet explorer;working OK now.
The 1-18-08 trailer is now available to watch on Apple.com!
I'll be putting up some HD screenshots on my CloverfieldClues.com as soon as I get home!
Dennis, you're the best!
Memphish, have fun at VBS!!! :-)
BTW, Maven, are you going to the ComicCon again this year? I think it was you who went last year.
The program looks awesome on the website. Unfortunately, it's only available to attendents, and not for sale. Maybe someone will sell it on Amazon or Ebay. I bet lots of people who can't go would order and buy one, if they could. I sure would. :-(
Hmmm... I have an idea? Is anyone here going to comic-con?? Cause I"ll bet we could use Talkshoe to broadcast the audio from somebodies cell phone!!!! Let me know if anyone up for that!! I'm not sure it's legal, but let's figure out if we can do it first and then I'll make a way for it to become possible.
Capcom: No, I was NOT one of the ones who went last year. Hubby thought I was crazy enough! LOL
David: Sure doesn't sound kosher to me! I think last year people were using their cell phones report as Rachel's appearance was happening. I don't remember a live feed...
I like your thinking Passafist! It sort of reminds me of that saying, "Better to ask for forgiveness afterwards, than to ask for permission before" heehee.
How could he think you're crazy Maven?! :o)
enjoy!!
http://slusho.jp/index.html
What the hay Chucklez?! Is there really a drink called that?
it's related to 1-18-08.
just thought i'd put it here too. forgot to post on the other blog. i'll get to it dennis.
it's the same group o' monkeys that created the apollo site, i'm betting.
There's a clear version of the Cloverfield trailer at DarkUFO's Media Mentions as well.
My LOST QOTD is a philosophical one. It's an opportunity to discuss "who" the characters are and what that means with regards to their fate particularly with respect to the odds of them dying on the Island.
Just listened to the shortened podcast, heres an idea, why don't we have a podcast for the brits ? Have it at a reasonable time for the UK ?
I'm sure there are lots of brits that would like take part but are put off by the timing. We may even get Dark Angel to participate.
Loving the podcasts including the Devils Advocate.
I'm dropping in here when I can, but work is crazy at the moment.
What would be a reasonable time for the UK?
I've never posted here before but I love the podcasts(both of them) so i thought i'd introduce myself..(",)
In answer to your question dennis, in the UK it is now 5.06 GMT so maybe you could work out how many hours diffenrence there is by looking at the time at the bottom of this comment... and then make a decision as to a suitable time.. I would love to get involved in the podcast if i could...
ARRGHH! :)
I understand the time difference, but WHAT do people in the UK (zort70, 4815162342Helena, etc) consider a reasonable time to do a podcast?
6:00 PM UK Time?
8:00 PM?
Hmm, I think between 7 and 9 pm which would be around about 3 to 5pm in the US (Eastern Time).
The webserver for TLC seems to be on PDT.
Sorry I've got that wrong it would be between 2 and 4pm in the US (EDT)
Honestly, The stats on the last podcast we're really discouraging because there we 20 or so people streaming the podcast! We always get criticised for making the podcast about us! When we go out of our way to get the community involved hardly anyone gets involved.
I'm not complaining just stating my own frustration. Episode 32 was ONLY for the community and only one person wanted to take part!
As for getting the UK involved our buddy XPETRI from the UK is in the chat room every time we go live. But i realize our Bread and Butter is the USA and our average audience is working between 2-4pm est on a weekday! Our West Coast friends would be eating lunch!
on a lighter note... I've been reading A Wrinkle in time.. does it ever pick up or is it just a bunch of people sitting around a kitchen table??
Wrinkle in Time spoiler for David
-- they do leave the kitchen table
End spoiler.
lost chipmunk
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=12146259
Memphish, you're a hoot! Nice spoiler.
Chuck, thanks for the laffs. I love prairie dogs! That's too funny.
Hey all!
David - now I feel bad that I didn't tune in for the live podcast! I have been so zonked from work (and the nearly 100 degree temperatures), and I didn't think anyone wanted to hear me snoring on my cell phone. Don't be discouraged!
On a lighter note - I thought the exact same thing about A Wrinkle in Time the first time I read it. I really need to unearth my copy and start reading. Since this book is shorter, I'm planning to start closer to the discussion date, so I don't forget what I want to talk about.
Speaking of books, here's a question for you all (everybody) to ponder: We seem to have run out of Watership talk relatively quickly, and we also seem to have some crazy fast readers on here. We have a few "extra credit" books in the line-up. Is anyone interested in me assigning one extra book to each month? That way, we'd have an official book for everyone, and an extra book for those who want to talk more, read superfast, have no lives (ha!). Just kidding. :)
Let me know what you think. We can talk here, or I'm happy to open up my own blog for discussion.
And don't forget - there's also the Lost Community Recommended booklist over at Amazon. Non-Lost-related books recommended by your dearest Lost friends. :) Check it out!
Melissa_lossa: Totally agree that one book per month is not enough! (Especially since the first 5 were found in the children's section!)
David: Sorry about the podcast turnout! You guys pour your heart and soul into it and we DO appreciate it. But I know I for one am experiencing a slight burnout for Lost discussion...and am enjoying some summer series for pure entertainment and no thought! But, that's just me...
Okay, maven has spoken! :) Any requests on extra credit books to be added to the schedule?
Yeah! Whatever I say goes! LOL
I would suggest that we combine some reading: The Adventures of Alice and Through the Looking Glass (very fast reading) and The Third Policeman (a little more involving.
I would add Catch-22 (haven't read it in years and it was the actual name of an Episode).
P.S. I know Catch-22 is already on the extra credit list, but maybe we should make it required for the month that The Third Policeman had (if we combine it with the Alice books).
Maven,
I would suggest you grab a copy of the annotated Alice. You will never look at that story as a breazy read again. I've read the ALice books a number of times over the years!! I love that book, but it's like a fine wine, it needs to be savored.
BTW... Dennis (and hopefully Chucklez) and I are going to be discussing Cloverfield on Thursday over at talkshoe.com at 5:30pm. If anybody wants to join in let me know!!
David: Thanks for the advice. Even though I read the books pretty fast...I did take a lot of notes...I'm ready for discussions.
chucklez3 said... lost chipmunk - http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=12146259
BTW, The "chipmonk" is from this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFCca5MR4e0
Love the dramatic prairie dog Chucklez.
As for extra credit books, I just finished The Time Traveler's Wife and I know I'm probably the last person to have read it, but my LOST QOTD has to do with that book and Island pregnancies. There may be an explanation for what happens to the Island moms in TTTW.
Good morning! So much is going on it seems! I read this and it makes my mind race... Latest Harry Potter movie and then next weekend is the release of the last book! 10 years of Harry coming to an end - I can hardly believe it! Then comicon is the following week (no, I'm not going, but I'm sure there will be updates online)... in the meantime, the new JJ project which totally surprised me. I went to see Transformers on Friday and the Bad Robot stole the show! I can't keep up with this ARG, but I'm still glad it is happening. ;)
4400! I've been a fan since Season 2 (much like Lost) I watched a marathon of the first season and was hooked to start in on the 2nd and so on. I love these characters and I'm so glad the show keeps coming back!
I received the first convincing evidence that Cloverfield and the Ethan Haas ARG are unrelated.
Check it out on my Cloverfield Blog, or in the Cloverfield podcast tomorrow!
cattygirl
I know what you mean. I just got back from getting my tickets for the Harry Potter movie tonight. They've already pre sold over a 100 tickets and they've only been open for a half hour. And I've had the last book pre-ordered for months it comes out on my birthday.
Can't wait for the updates from comic con. Plus the Cloverfield thing looks very interesting too.
Believe it or not I've never heard of 4400 till I seen it discussed here. I looked at the web site it looks interesting but I'm too far behind to catch up.
Here is a screenshot of the Slusho t-shirt from the Cloverfield trailer.
My husband and I are off to see Harry Potter in a few hours! :) I have to work tonight, so we're taking the afternoon off to go. And I can't wait for the book next week - I'm going to a midnight release party.
I'll try to tune in for the Cloverfield podcast tomorrow. I am very intrigued. :)
Any other suggestions on the book club? I'm hesitant to add more "required" books, as I know that some people read slower than others, and are busier than others, and I don't want anyone to feel like they can't keep up. I'd rather name an "official" extra credit book each month - then people who want to chat more can. Thoughts anyone?
Thanks for the reminder, Sayid's Girl. I read your comment and went right away to get my tix online. Got them! Order of the Phoenix, here I come!
Whew. I have to wait until Sunday, but that's ok. It will be worth it.
I'm just about able to juggle one book a month right now, so I'm just as happy if things stay this way. But if you add more books I won't mind that either, I just will enjoy the discussion vicariously.
Passafist, all your work is very much appreciated! I'm not reading the books yet, and I don't do live podcasts, but I listen to them all after you post them!
And you're right, Annotated Alice is awesome! Carroll made so many funny references to the Brits and royalty in it, it's hilarious. Mother Goose is like that too.
Thanks Dennis for the sleuthing about EH and 1/18/08. Quite the coincidence of them both coming out at the same time. And what ex-TLE-er would not jump at the chance to believe TPTB smiled on us for another summer?! :-)
My Cloverfield Screen Shots are up!
I switched-up some of the thumbnails accidentally, but it'll work for now until I can fix them.
Hey all!
melissa-lossa- regarding book club- I would vote for doubling up some books if they are short and/or easy to read. I read Watership Down and Wrinkle in Time last month with time to spare and am filling in this month with Tale of Two Cities (one of my fav books but haven't read it in a long time). Anyway- that's my $.02.
Wow- another ARG! Cool-even though not LOST related. I'll have to go check that out.
Hope everyone is having a good summer!
If you like time travel theories and LOST, I have another one today on my blog. Be sure and read Capcom's comments on yesterday's post about Island babies.
hey the ARG is not related to clover field right? How was it ever misconstrued that it was?
I mentioned this on my Cloverfield Blog, but I first heard about the Ethan Haas stuff in this "news" story.
IIRC, I believe I found that story on DIGG, which is also where I initially found about the Cloverfield trailer.
Heheh, yeah I got a little wordy on your blog Memphish, but what you said really got me thinking! :o)
Emily ( Melissa_Lossa ), I'm going with my husband tomorrow to see it. I doubt I will be disappointed - every trailer looks soooo good!
Dennis - if the ARG isn't part of jj's project then I doubt I'll bother trying to catch up. Thanks for the heads up!
Seems everyone is trying very hard to keep the discussions going here. Memphish and Capcom: You're doing a great job on your blogs. Dennis, I've been checking out the Cloverfield blog, too. (I even listened in a little on the podcast...great summary of what's been happening there.) I'm still lurking (pearling) on the FARG over at Lost-TV. Personally, I'm just taking a summer break from any heavy analysis of the show. I think I actually talked hubby into watching Season 1 and trying to get him interested in the show! Wish me luck! LOL
Still looking forward to the Book Club discussions. Went to the library today and got some more to read! Just waiting the birth of our granddaughter (Elizabeth Erin) Sept. 20th. The Baby Showers (there are 2) are this weekend!
Tx Maven, and thanks for reminding us of the FARG, I keep forgetting to check on it! I hope it's not impossible to catch up on reading the forum, I haven't read anything since a few days after it started back up again.
And crud, I forgot to listen to the podcast, my nephs were on the computer!
capcom
Like your avitar of Cody. I took my daughter to see that movie.
amused2bhere
OOTP was great it will be well worth the wait til Sunday.
Hey, everyone! Just checking in and seeing how everything is going. 2costa asked my question about Comic Con.
Hey, you've heard the joke that should accompany this post, right?
If a man speaks in a forest and there is no woman around to hear him is he still wrong?
Cool about the Cloverfield arg. I hope they keep doing more of these and maybe some day I can participate. Currently I'm watching all the Jericho episodes online. I didn't watch last season but the "nut bombing" got me interested. Good show. Had a thought about the babies on the island while watching the show. Radiation poisoning can make people infertile. Nice blog, Memphish. Nice pondering, Capcom.
Or better yet....
If Jack yells on an island and we don't hear him, are we still annoyed?
Twinkle: LOL
Hey, Maven!
Yeah, I miss LostYourHumor. :-) I'd still love to collect Lost jokes if anybody has some.
Gotta put the kids to bed. G'night!
Hi Twinkle, great to have you check back in! No wait, if Jack CRIES on the island.....heheh.
Nice to see baby-balloon-princess again too. :-)
twinkle
Did you know that they are re broadcasting Jercho? They showed the first epsode last Friday and tomorrow at 8:00 they're showing the recap show they showed after it's hiatis. Then at 9:00 they're showing the next in line and following through to the end of the season.
If you're interested.
CBS claims that if they don't get enough "TV" viewers that they won't renew it. I say they need to catch up with the times. I hope they're not stupid enough to cancel it because of the internet viewers.
*sigh* I hope so too. How would they even know I was viewing it on the TV? I can never watch anything live anyway. We tape Lost and have found it's much better on my schedule to watch episodes of shows online.
ARG!!! (get it? Argh!!) I missed the Cloverfield podcast. Bummer! I was at work until after 7 today. Yuck. I'll have to listen in this weekend.
For anyone considering it, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix was really good. I highly recommend it.
As far as the book club goes, we do actually have two books a month in August and September. We could discuss one for the first two weeks, and then the second the last two weeks of each month. I hate to change things for July since we're already so far in. Let me know what you guys think.
Great Cloverfield podcast guys! I just listened to it.
Is the Cloverfield podcast going to be on iTunes or do we need to listen to it on Talkshoe? I tried to listen live, but was having connection problems.
Everyone watch out. It's Friday the 13th, the day you may run into a hockey mask wearing, chainsaw wielding guy.
I downloaded the Cloverfield podcast and will check it out after my last day of VBS ends.
My LOST QOTD has to do with one of those suspend disbelief things today. I'll be sticking up a new post Sat. and Sun. as well, but then you'll have a week long break to think about any and/or all of those questions while I enjoy a week at the beach internet-free. Thanks to those of you who've clicked by and even posted comments.
And now for my personal book club update. I'm taking Lost Horizon and Pt. 2 of the Dark Tower series with me to the beach as well as A Brief History of Time though Im having a hard time getting motivated to read that one. Lost Horizon could go on the optional book lists. It's very short.
I'm reading A Wrinkle in Time now. I missed the last discussion because of lo-o-o-ong work hours. Looking forward to joining in!
memphish said... Is the Cloverfield podcast going to be on iTunes or do we need to listen to it on Talkshoe? I tried to listen live, but was having connection problems.
It will be up on iTunes as soon as I can figure out how to do that :)
Happy Friday the 13th everyone! Just stopping in to say hello... it's been awhile. The whole Cloverfield thing looks interesting, I'll be following that when I can. Also, I meant to be more involved with the Book Club, but I've been so busy working and rereading the Harry Potter books in anticipation of the new book, that I haven't had time. Lastly, for those of you who remember my dilema about not knowing what I'd be doing this fall in terms of school, I still am not sure what I'm doing yet.
I would type more but I have a broken finger, so I'm typing one-handed right now. Its good to see this place again!
Morning all on this Friday the 13th! Best of luck to all of you! LOL
Memphish: Think I"ll take your advice and add "Lost Horizon" to my list as extra credit. Your blog makes for great reading, too.
Luckyguy: Hope things work out for you with school and your finger heals fast! One-handed typing can be tough!
Dennis: I'm checking out your blog everyday. Keep up the great work!
Dennis,
Go to feedburner.com!!! It's preety Easy!!!
OK, The podcast will be up on iTunes shortly.
BTW, I didn't even need to do the whole feedburner thing. There is a link right on the TalkShoe page to submit your podcast to iTunes. TalkShoe is so awesome!
TGIF working LoCos!
OT: Sayidsgirl, did you and your daughter like Surf's Up? I found myself throughout the movie realizing that I had a constant grin on my face! I thought that it was a lot of fun and very positive, although I really like surfer movies of any kind anyway. But anything that can make this crabby old lady smile for 2 hours has got to be good. BTW, the movie's website has a lot of great things for kids to do on it too.
Have fun on your vacay Memphish! Good question for today too.
I got the podcast to play on Talkshow after the fact alright. I didn't remember to try it during the show though.
capcom
Yeah I liked Surf's Up it had some pretty funny moments. My daughter loved it.
Thanks for the info about the website I'll let her know.
Howdy Loco's
That is one of the best Trailers I've seen in a long time.
Dennis,
Thanks for your Cloverfield blog.
I did the Walkabout tour of the puzzles,and am thankful for your help.
I checked out the Mindstorm site.
It looks like an interesting game.
Maven,
Super name for your Granddaughter.Enjoy the Showers.
Luckyguy,
sorry about your finger,good to hear from you again.
I hope everyone is having a great summer.Sure is a hot one, so far.Lots of things to do;The Book Club,Podcasts,and Comi con in a coulple of weeks...
Finished Jericho! Cool show. I can't believe they were going to end it like they did. Anybody else pick up on this show this summer?
Twinkle: I watched the show when it originally aired. I know, the ending was such a cliffhanger. Hopefully, enough viewers will watch this summer and they'll pick it up.
Hubby and I plan to watch Jericho when they air on Fridays via DVR. We watched the first one and taped last night. I hope they won't stop airing them like NBC did Friday Night Lights and like ABC did LOST last summer. I'd prefer to watch them on TV than on my computer.
I have an opportunity to sound off on Locke on my blog today. Don't forget to check it tomorrow (and into next week too.) Tomorrow's post will be very open-ended, then it's off for a 500 mile drive.
Memphish,
have fun.
Have a great trip, memphish! Can't wait to hear what you think about Drawing of the Three - I think it's my favorite of the Dark Tower books. :)
My L'Engle books came today! Yippee!
A Wrinkle in Time, here I come...
I got the full trilogy, so I might finish all of them before the discussion on the 25th. {Happy Dance}
And tomorrow...Potter!
Thanks again, Dennis, for the clever Cloverfield blog. Very nice job.
FYI, my new avatar is a Tesseract.
Oooh, nice avi Amused!
Be patient Luckyguy, things will fall into place soon. Hope your finger gets better soon too.
I just realized, did you say you're only reading only three books on vacay Memphish? You're slipping. :o) BTW, I think there is a version out now of A Brief History, with tons of graphics to aid in comprehension for non-physicists like us. And there is also another new good book by him with profuse illustrations as well. But Brief History is not so bad. I listened to the audio version in my car and did OK.
Agreed, it was a very stupid way to end Jericho like that originally. I'm glad that it will be back for some more info eventually. This inability of TV programmers to commit to finish of a serial show is pretty strange. It's almost as if the viewers can handle them better than the programmers/execs can.
Damn the typos, full speed ahead! :o)
amused.....should i drive around manhattan for a while before i come over for the movie?? you know, just to see if i find anything? hahahahaha.
lol, chucklez. How about you just bring a half dozen Slush-o's instead. Do they come in pineapple?
I was thinking about Lost and Cloverfield, and I think I figured out what might have caused the explosion in the Cloverfield trailer!
:)
Good thinking Dennis. By jove, I think he's got it.
Thanks for the vacation wishes. We're off in a minute.
Don't forget to check out my blog if you need to think about LOST. The post for the next week is about favorite lines from the series.
And here's another topic for discussion. If you got a chance to ask a question at Comic Con, what would you ask?
Me I'd ask, "Given the leak of the finale last year and given that you'll wrap shooting with 10-12 episodes left to air in Season 4, how are you going to keep all that from leaking?"
Dennis,,You were right.It was John Locke on his Scorched Earth Policy Tour.
Dunno. but the 7-11 has "Squishies" now. hahaha.
Blog dedicated to all things Ethan Haas
http://ethanhaasthoughts.blogspot.com/
come visit us and leave your thoughts......
You solved the mystery Dennis! :-D
Memphish, you remind me of Mike Myers' skit of Linda the Jewish lady who had the talk show on SNL! I'm expecting you to say something like, "This Lost haitus has me all ferklempt! Let me give you something to talk about amongst yourselves....the Lost survivors are neither lost, nor or they survivors....now discuss!!" :o) Heehee! C-ya when you get back!
Squishies? I have to check that out.
capcom: yeah, some 7-11s have become "kwik-e-marts"!!
and almost all of them have "buzz cola" and other things from the show.
(the simpsons) for those who don't know.
hey all!
Finally saw Harry Potter 5 last night, and all I can say is wow. It captured the essence of the book, unfortunately they left lots of book details out but that's the way it goes when you do a screenplay. The book has so much more in it, always, yet this movie did the story justice, if not the book.
There's my review, imho. I can't wait for the dvd. Probly Christmas, eh?
Finished reading "A Wrinkle in Time". This one will be harder to relate to Lost, I think. At least not as obvious as "Watership Down".
wow. i saw it last night too!!
ya i gotta go to the kwik-e-mart by my house and get a radioactive man #711, its not that close though maybe 5 miles away...
lots of pictures of the converted 7/11's here
http://www.nohomers.net/showthread.php?t=62348
Saw HP in Imax 3D on Friday - and what a blast! I'm most likely going to see it on a plain old big screen this weekend. I agree with amused that the movie does stand well on its own... now I'm just holding my breath waiting for the last book. I'm so afraid of being spoiled that I won't even browse online in fear I'll come across something. ;)
amused: I saw HP this weekend, and I completely agree with you. Although it was definitely not a stand alone, in that the friend I saw it with was totally lost as she had not read the book. And I was a little disgruntled that one of my favorites from the book was but a blip in the movie.
As for Wrinkle...I have loads of notes to compare it to Lost. However the comparisons are certainly a different sort than Watership's were.
Chucklez, you're a riot. I hope I didn't talk too much during the movie. That's what you get for sitting next to me!
Thanks for being willing to travel all the way from NJ to Long Island just to go to the movies. My husband and friends enjoy your company too, and hopefully the next time we can all go and grab a bite to eat. Btw, my son thinks you're cool.
Cattygirl, I too am very spoiler wary, trying not to read or hear anything that might reveal what happens in book 7. =:)
Dennis said... OK, The podcast will be up on iTunes shortly.
Wow! I just got notice from Apple that my podcast was approved for iTunes. It's been 3 days - nice turnaround over there. I hope no one was holding their breath!
BTW, anyone know when the next TLC podcast is?
Hey, everybody! I wanted to drop this link your way: http://www.figures.com/databases/action.cgi?setup_file=mmnews2.setup&category=movies&topic=2&show_article=63
It's some great pictures and a review of the new Lost figures. I have them pre-ordered, so I'll post my own photos on my blog when I get them. They look amazing!
I also have to agree with everyone who has seen Harry Potter. I thought it was a great movie, and they did a really good job adapting the book. Book 5 is SO packed with stuff, it must have been quite a task to whittle it down enough. There were a few scenes that I wish had been in there, just because I love them so much, but I don't think their exclusion took away from the movie at all.
I can't wait for the last book! I'm also trying to avoid all spoilers - but it's hard not to read everything Harry Potter related online!
Harry Potter fans - mugglenet.com is a great SPOILER-FREE site if you want whet your appetite for the new book. They have a section on Book 7, where they have debunked rumors, things that are known for sure (I guess these could be considered spoilers, although they're pretty mild) and my favorite - loose ends. Here's the link right to that section: http://mugglenet.com/books/futurebooks/book7/looseends.shtml
Here they talk about questions that are still out there. No spoilers, unless you haven't read all of the first six books yet, but there are definitely some questions in there that I had forgotten about or not considered. I can't wait for Friday!
Melissa, the Book Club podcast is on the 25? or have you set a date with Passafist yet?
Just trying to plan.
just a side note: So far, the top 3 movies of the year that I've seen are:
1. Transformers
2. Live Free or Die Hard
3. Harry Potter
** I'm a huge Spider-Man fan, but there were just too many flaws in the last one....*sigh*....
anyway...there you go. Some useless info for your day.
amused - I haven't set anything yet, but I was planning on the 25th. David - what do you think? Same bat time, same bat channel?
Hey, everyone: Planning on the 25th for another Book Club round!
Melissa_lossa: Thanks for the figurine link. Have to agree that the pose choices for Jin and Sun are a little weird.
Hubby and I are spending this summer watching all the seasons of "24"! Watching them on DVD one after another (we can get in about 4 episodes a night) is pretty intense! I'm working on him to watch S1 of LOST next! Hopefully, I can get him hooked!
FYI: DarkUFO posted the short Emmy list:
Lead Actor in a Dramatic Role
Kyle Chandler, “Friday Night Lights”
Patrick Dempsey, “Grey’s Anatomy”
Matthew Fox, “Lost”
James Gandolfini, “The Sopranos”
Michael C. Hall, “Dexter”
Eddie Izzard, “The Riches”
Hugh Laurie, “House”
Denis Leary, “Rescue Me”
James Spader, “Boston Legal”
Kiefer Sutherland, “24″
Supporting Actress in a Drama Series
Lorraine Bracco, “The Sopranos”
S. Epatha Merkerson, “Law & Order”
Rachel Griffiths, “Brothers & Sisters”
Katherine Heigl, “Grey’s Anatomy”
Sandra Oh, “Grey’s Anatomy”
CCH Pounder, “The Shield”
Aida Turturro, “The Sopranos”
Kay Walsh, “Grey’s Anatomy”
Patricia Wettig, “Brothers & Sisters”
Chandra Wilson, “Grey’s Anatomy”
I can't believe Grey's got 4 actresses up there and Elizabeth Mitchell got passed on!
milissa_lossa
You're right Mugglenet is a great Harry Potter site and they strive not to have spoilers. I've been going to that site for years along with The Leaky Cauldron www.the-leaky-cauldron.org is a spoiler free site also and sometimes colaborate with Mugglenet.
The Order of the Phoenix movie just shows you what a good director can do. I'm glad he's doing the next movie too. I don't know about you guys but I hated The Prisoner of Azkaban movie that crazy director tried to turn it into "art". Just my opinion. Can't wait for Saturday for the last book it's going to be exciting and sad.Thanks for the links to the new figurines.
Maven
Thanks for the emmy list.
The 24th at 5pm would be best!!! Is that okay?? or the 25th at 3pm. Eastern obviously.
David, are you still doing Lost Season 1 podcasts?
FYI: There's a very funny Hardee's commercial posted at Media Mentions on DarkUFO with Jorge Garcia.
wow....is it really funny or sad? hahaha.
freakin hardee's is horrible. i used to love it, but everything they have is like "poison" to you now.
their monster burger has like 1200 calories. it's insane.
Chucklez: I've never had Hardee's here in So. Calif. I would never eat anything even close to 1200 calories! LOL
Hi Loco's
Maven;
Thanks for the Hardee video.
"Never saw that one commin'"
And,the Emmy's better give props to Lost this year.
24 is very intense.Especially the first season.I watched the episodes
on a TV marathon.It was almost as good as DVD.I think your husband would get hooked on Lost that way.DVD is best,no commercials.
Passafist; I enjoy the Podcasts. I am watching the first Season again,and it is good to hear everyone's input.
Chucklez glad you found some homies up your way.(Live together,die alone).
maven said... Chucklez: I've never had Hardee's here in So. Calif. I would never eat anything even close to 1200 calories! LOL
Hardee's is owned by Carl's Jr. Same star logo, but it is a stripped down menu compared to Carl's, with less chicken sandwiches and NO onion rings!!! :( BOOOO
The monster thick burger at Hardee's is called the $6.00 burger at Carl's.
Tuesday night or Wed afternoon, either way just let me know about the Book Club podcast. I'll try to be there!
Are we gonna have more guys there this time? Hey fellas, are ya game or what?
Perhaps later is better, as they may need time to get home from work.
just my two cents...
hey, passafist - sadly, I cannot make either of those times for a podcast. If you want, I can just send you some questions and you can talk amongst yourselves. Let me know what you want to do.
Later is usually better for me, as I don't get out of work until at least 5.
Sayid's girl - I agree about the Harry Potter movies. I like Prisoner of Azkaban okay, but to me, it feels like a Cliffs Notes version of the book, more than any of the others. I understand that they can't fit everything from a book into a movie, but that one feels very choppy to me.
Maven - how do you like 24? Which season are you on? Personally, I like seasons 1, 3 and 5 the best - 5 is an absolute masterpiece. Season 6 was pretty lame, and I'm hoping that things pick up next year! I got my husband hooked with the season 1 DVDs, and we've been watching ever since. :)
Hmmm.. well we can do it later?? What about 6pm on Tuesday or Thursday?
I could do 6 p.m. on Thursday.
yeah dennis. carl's jr. is the best. when i was in cali, i used to get the bacon-swiss chicken sandwich. and they put ranch on it.
hardee's has that sandwich but puts MAYONAISE on it!!!! *blech*!!
i'd vote for thursday at 6pm, too. i get off work at 6 and could try to call as soon as i get out of the cell-phone "dead zones" on the way home.
6pm Thursday (3pm for me) would be good.
Melissa_lossa: We're almost through with season 1 of 24. We did watch the season that just ended and heard all the complaints about it being the lamest (too much office romance). We're glad we decided to watch it from the beginning...a lot of discs to go through!
Dennis: Thanks for the fast food update! (Since I constantly diet, I don't frequent those places! LOL)
maven - I think all of the season's are good, with the exception of the newest one. Mostly, they just get better as they go on.
6pm on Thursday gets my vote!
On Harry Potter: Melissa, I agree with you. Although I think "Prisoner of Azkaban" was a bare bones version of the book, I didn't find it choppy. I was ok with most of the subplots that got left out of the movie, especially the house elf liberation stuff.
"Order of the Phoenix", however, was very choppy, very Cliffs Notes. There was so much more that not only could have been done but (I think) should have been done. After all, if they can take 3 hours each to tell the Lord of the Rings trilogy, they can take 3 hours to tell a Harry Potter book. So put in a 5 or 10minute intermission, but tell the story!
ok, rant over.
yeah, but Lord of the Rings was 3 films. Not 5. And they were all filmed at one time.
Sad thing with Potter, is they do one at a time and we basically are guaranteed 7, total.
Basically, my point is this. They probably figure that since they've now made 5 films, the last thing they want to do is make them 3 hours long. Some people who aren't fans of the books might be getting tired of them by now. Hahahaha. I dunno. Just playing devil's advocate.
Eh. haha. talk to you all later.
also, keep in mind, the lord of the rings was probably more anticipated than any of the harry potter movies. I'd go to see the LOTR trilogy AGAIN at the theater. However, I doubt I could do the same for Harry Potter.
but as for entertainment value:
I stand behind my earlier statment of.......
1. Transformers
2. Live Free or Die Hard
3. Harry Potter
4. Spidey 3
**keep in mind, I didn't see Fantastic Four 2 yet. So who knows?
The above was listed as the most entertaining and most fun I've had at the movies so far this year.
in all fairness.....I think I missed Harry Potter 4 though. I saw Prisoner of Azkaban and the first two.
Eh.
Morning All
They had the Emmy nominations on the Today show this morning and according to the Emmys website the only nominations for the actors were Terry O'Quinn and Michael Emmerson for supporting actor. Of course the show itself was not nominated for a drama series.
Morning:
I just woke up to the Emmy news. Oh, well...I'm thankful Terry and Michael got the nominations, at least! It's just so frustrating that TPTB for the Emmys just don't get the greatness and depth of LOST and nominate pure entertaining "fluff" like Gray's Anatomy (I watch that show, but it's so superficial and has no mythology and nuances like Lost). We did get some technical nominations...Jack Bender for directing, Single-camera editing -- both for TTLG, Sound editing and Writing for a Series.
it would seem i was right about richard maybe not being back on lost, the cbs exec behind nester's new show cane said they prolly wouldnt let him do guest spots on lost, but i imagine cane will get canceled before it becomes an issue, considering its on cbs and not a procedural crime drama or military crime drama ...:)
I don't get how you can be nominated for Best Writing and Best Directing, and not get nominated for Best Drama. I mean, come on!
Here's the complete list of nominations.
So, ComicCon is one week away. Is anyone here planning on going?
Nope, not going, Dennis (even though it's only about 2 hours away from me). I know that the tailsection and DarkUFO have set up "correspondents" who will be doing live updates, etc.
Wow- the Emmy news is a bit of a shocker. I really thought that the last part of Season 3 was really good and was bound to get more Emmy nods- esp. in best drama. I also thought Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet) would get a nomination. *rant*- I just don't get all the hype around Grey's Anatomy. I mean isn't it just a night time soap opera? The episodes I've watched are ok, but nothing new or original- I just don't see what everyone else sees in that show!- *end rant* It will be interesting to see how Heroes does next year in the nominations. See if they drop Heroes like a hot potato just like they did LOST.
Oh well- at least LOST has got one of the most dedicated fan bases out there. That has to count for something!
I love my kids- but am so glad school starts again in 3 weeks! woo hoo!
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Wow your kids go back to school early. My daughter still has five more weeks.
She just said this morning this is the time of summer she starts getting bored and I said it the time I start wishing school would start back up then when it does I don't want her to go cause I miss her. She said yeah that's how parents are she's so ornry (she'll be ten at the end of the month)
I agree with you Grey's Anatomy is nothing more than a night time soap for people who don't have time to watch daytime soaps. No substance.
Dennis. not going, but my co-worker has a comic unveiling at comicon. it's called "Pogrom".
Keep an eye out for it.
you know the theory behind cbs's high ratings and i heard it on here,but i forget who. Is the people that watch CBS are so old that they fall asleep during the first hour of primetime and just never change the channel. Probably a good theory
greys anatomy is so so predictable. I used to like it but it can't match nip/tuck or house at least for me since they all have the same shocking case/ intricate personal lives formula, interspersed with montages set to ultra hip estrogen charged alternative rock. Oh wait the estrogen charged montages are just grey's.
2costa: i'm with you there. grey's hasn't been good in a while. occasionally they'll have a good episode, but i gave up on the whole everybody's havin' sex with everyone else (within the 8 person group, that is).
give me a break.
Wah! I want to go to ComicCon!! Alas, I am in NY and no where near enough...bleh.
I agree about the Emmys and Grey's. At least Lost got some, and Hugh Laurie got nodded. I'll be rooting for Heroes and House, myself. Enough already for Grey's A and Boston Legal.
Tony Shaloub definitely rocks as Monk, though.
Did we decide on a date for the Book Club? Thursday at 6 was the last mentioned suggestion.
On another subject:
If I were to get a pet and name it Tesseract, what kind of pet would be best suited?
Either a rabbit or a yellow lab :)
Seriously... no one is going to go to Comic-con?
Maven, I think you need to go and represent TLC!
Go Maven! Go Maven! Go Maven!
Gosh, Dennis, you sure know how to make a person feel guilty! LOL
Aw, we just gotta have a representation! But honestly, Maven, I can understand...two hours away? {groan} That would be like Philly for me, and I'm not sure I'd be able to do it.
Rabbit named Tesseract? Or a yellow lab named Tessie...has possibilities. At least you can housebreak a dog...
Happy Saturday Birthday, Sayid's Girl!
Just wanted to get that out there before I forgot.
Yes Thurday at 6pm.
amused2bhere wrote...If I were to get a pet and name it Tesseract, what kind of pet would be best suited?
A hamster.
Happy Birthday Sayid's girl......
Have a great day.
I just wanted to follow up by saying thanks to melissa_lossa and Sayid's girl for pointing me to mugglenet and leaky, but I did know about these two along with Veritaserum. These are my 3 favorites.
Happy B-Day Sayid's girl!
Wish I was going to Comic Con, but at least there will be alot of live coverage and podcasts from the event.
As for the Emmys... Go Michael Emerson!
Happy Birthday tomorrow, Sayid's Girl!
FYI: Our own Emmy-nominated Terry O'Quinn is set to star in an episode of ABC's new anthology series, Masters of Science Fiction. Terry's episode, "The Awakening", is on Aug. 11th. The series is narrated by Prof. Stephen Hawking (sort of a Lost tie-in)!
Thanks All
For the Birthday wishes.
I'll be spending a good portion of it reading the last Harry Potter book.
There's also a festival in my hometown this weekend and I'll be taking my daughter to that.
Plus I'll probably go out for dinner. Hopefully no over the hill birthday songs will crop up. :)
Happy Birthday, Sayid's Girl! I'm betting that like me, you're counting the hours to Harry Potter!
maven - thanks for the info on the "Masters" series. I saw a promo for it during the *sniff* last episode of Traveler. William B. Davis, who played Cancerman/CGB Spender in the X-Files is in that series as well.
Speaking of which, they are for sure making a new X-Files movie! It's written by Chris Carter and Frank Spotnitz and directed by Chris Carter. Hopefully, it won't suck like the first one.
I'm about halfway through Wrinkle in Time, but I'll have to take a break this weekend for Deathly Hallows. I'm also in the middle of a nasty battle for a raise at work. Everyone cross your fingers for me!
New photo up at 1-18-08!
(and at CloverfieldClues.com :)
Have a Happy Birthday Sayid's Girl.
Since it's the weekend,enjoy an extended celebration.
Sounds like the perfect way to spend your birthday, Sayid's Girl! Have fun!
Dennis: Just want to say you're doing a great job on your Cloverfield blog! Keep up the great work!
Happy B-day Sayidsgirl!
And thanks everyone for all the Comicon info.
Good luck Melissa on geting your raise!
Thanks also for the "Masters" and X-Files" movie info! The first movie was kind of disappointing, but at least we X-Filers know what has happened to all the missing honey-bees lately!! :o)
Funny how our hero T.O'Q. is in that movie too! The guys gets around, cuz he is so good.
P.S. "Happy Man On The Moon Day" Loco friends! Keep the dream alive. :-)
Happy Birthday Sayid's Girl! Hope you have a great weekend.
Happy Birthday Sayid's Girl!
Hey y'all,
I'm going to Comic Con. I have an extra 4-day pass if anyone needs one. (4-day's are sold out) It's a Pre-Reg membership so you can get in on wednesday night as well.
Here are a couple of other lostie things at Comic Con:
1:30-2:30 The Lost Podcast with Jay and Jack— Jay and Jack Glatfelter have one of the oldest and biggest podcasts dedicated to ABC's hit TV series Lost, with The Lost Podcast. Learn about the huge dedicated online community for TV's most mind- twisting drama. Lost fans, join Jay and Jack for this special interview and Q&A session! Room 24A
2:30-3:30 Lost Fan Summit— Admit it: you're a fan of one of television's most intriguing and exciting TV shows: Lost. You've posted on the message boards, examined screen-shots, and played The Lost Experience with thousands of others you've never met. Now meet some of your fellow Lost fans face to face and celebrate Lost on the web! Room 24A
I am taking a laptop with me to Comic Con, and will post some photos in the evenings on flikr.
Dig Y'all Later
Totengraber
aaaahhhhhhhhh, nostalgic. hahaha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXY3EN6W_oQ
I Will be leaving Tuesday Morning to go to Comic-Con. You can get me at Totengraber13@gmail.com, or AIM me at Totengraber.
Happy Monday LoCos!
Totengraber, I'm completely jealous of your trip to ComicCon. I hope you have a great time, and we're counting on you keeping us up to date here at TLC.
So vacation was very relaxing and I managed to read The Drawing of the Three (Dark Tower Pt. 2), Lost Horizon, and the first 6 chapters of A Brief History of Time and 2 non-LOST related books, though 1 of them gave me a blog post idea. More on those in days to come.
And now I have a LOST QOTD for you. Actually it's a number of questions for Danielle coming from the episode Solitary. Danielle's story is so confusing. She seems to know a lot and yet so little at the same time, so be sure to check it out.
I'm looking forward to discussing A Wrinkle in Time. Do you have dates and times set in stone yet?
Happy Monday! I can't believe Comic Con is here! I wish I were going...
Anyway - who finished Harry Potter this weekend? (I am raising my hand)... and mugglenet already posted their podcast with their reactions to the story.
I finally finished reading A Wrinkle in Time over the weekend, so I'm looking forward to the podcast this week - Thursday at 6:00pm EDT.
I hope to see you all there!
cattygirl - I finished Harry Potter Saturday night at about 4 a.m. Great stuff. I wished that the epilogue had touched on more characters, but other than that, I thought it was a perfect ending. How about you?
I was checking out the new posts over at Lost Ninja. They are only up to "Greatest Hits" so far, but he had an interesting theory on Charlie's swimming ability:
In Charlie's fourth Greatest Hits flashback, we find him as a boy being taught to swim by his father. His brother Liam is telling him not to jump, as his father will surely move. As Charlie steps nervously to the poolside, however, a voice can be heard in the background, yelling "Come on, let's go - Desmond!"
At the end of the episode, Desmond lies unconscious in the canoe with a list of the five key moments in Charlie's life resting in his pocket. Knowing the importance of Charlie being able to swim, is it possible that Desmond somehow travelled into Charlie's past and altered the event so that Charlie can swim in the present and be the saviour they all require?
Dennis, I remember hearing that theory about Desmond being at the pool when Greatest Hits aired here. I still can't figure out how TPTB are going to deal with Desmond "changing" the past. It seems to open up too many cans of worms.
Speaking of changing the past, anyone who has read Drawing of the 3, Roland changes the past of someone pretty significantly near the end of the book, does King manage to reconcile this at some point in the future? A simple "yes/no/yes, but it's not convincing" answer will suffice. And who else thinks that Charlie was based on Eddie Dean?
dennis: i hope not.
never was excited about the time travel idea but i DO like the idea of the flash forwards (in MY mind) being future shots of "cause and effect".
example: the first flash forward is a future that will be because of jack's ultimate decision-making on the island. However, Locke was told by "Walt" that he still has work to do. (i think that's the same "entity" that spoke to Eko and Ben, etc. Smokey, the island....whatever).
Anyway, Locke's work is to prevent certain futures and/or to CAUSE some. i think he saw that he couldn't stop Jack, so he's now off to alter the future another way.
So.......now, the next flash forward will be based on the next major decisions made. Etc. and so-on.
Now, THAT'S an idea I can wrap my mind around.
what do you think scooby gang?
did you see the secret clue i think its 3x2 where it asks does ben see what they see and it showed all the differnt veiws ben had from the hydra. Maybe that related to the chip in claire, maybe it makes a person like a roving webcam? how are we supposed to think that it was radzinsky in the polar bear cave, even though it was a pearl dharma logo on the guy in the polar bear cave and radzinsky had a question mark for the pearl on his map. Kelvin had a swan logo...i liked the secret clue where they played the room 23 clip backwards and it said something like "Only fools are trapped by time and space" and the guy watching the door from its always sunny in phily was reading a breif history of time. I saw that back masked on you tube before but to have a lost site affirm what is being said is cool...
but another reason I'm not "all for it" is because I think Charlie is more of a hero if Desmond did NOT interfere.
Don't mind Desmon seeing the future so-to-speak and what-not. Just not a fan of the time travel.
However, I'm NOT 100% AGAINST it either. eh.
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