Friday, April 17, 2009

The Lost Community Podcast - Episode 62

Join Hosts David A Dein and Steve "The Goog" Guglich as they unpack the brand new lost episode Dead is Dead. As a special treat Steve's Wife and David's Twin Sister Karen stops in to share her insights as well.

If you'd like to be a guest on the podcast, have any theories, discover any clues, or just want to say "Hi!", contact TLCpodcast@gmail.com (mp3 comments are accepted as well), or leave a voice mail or fax at (206) 202-3512.

Episode 62 - Dead is Dead

164 comments:

Amused2bHere said...

oh yes! first, or second at least!

Amused2bHere said...

lol first and second!

lost2010 said...

So, I was rewatching Season 2 and noticed again that the inside of the Swan hatch had 'Quarantine' on it. And the inside of the Arrow door had 'Quarantine' on it.

Wouldn't it be funny if that turns out to be part of Sawyer's cover story or something? I know it's unlikely but it smacks of a desperate con doesn't it? Telling the people inside all the hatches that they're quarantined so they won't come out?

Anyway, I hope they tell us why they put quarantine all over everything.

memphish said...

As much as I enjoyed the episode the first time around, I have to say it was a little thin on rewatch.

As much fun as it is to consider a grown up Miles changing baby Miles diapers leading to a destruction of matter, I guess we know at a minimum that baby Miles is not destroyed by such an encounter because we've seen him live into 2004. So what about it sci fi types? Could big Miles be destroyed by a diapering encounter?

One thing that did stand out was that Mrs. Chang is not in the loop. Remember on the Orchid orientation film how Dr. Candle was it then talks about deceiving your family members. Well, he knew about that first hand apparently. That's what he tells Hurley, and I'm guessing he lies to her to get her and Miles to leave as well. She's definitely bitter about him rather than being grateful he got Miles and her off the Island before they died too. I wonder how she found out about his death. Do you think the DI, like Oceanic, gave payouts to grieving spouses? I guess not judging from her living conditions.

Capcom said...

I like the idea about LaFleur making up the quarantine rules, heheh. Although since it seems to be in the taboo area of the island grid, maybe it's just to make sure that DI drones don't forget that fact and trapse out the door to get some fresh air at any time, due to either being pounced on by Hostiles or Smokey. ???

lost2010 said...

Yeah, capcom - that does make more sense. I was just hoping for something a little more fun.

Capcom said...

BTW, good point about the familial deception as announced in the Orchid vid Memphish. Obviously families aren't necessarily in the circle of secrets group unfortunately. I can see the merit of that for keeping classified info classified and experimental parascience from the unititiated minds, but for crying out loud, with the DI families completely isolated from the real world, who are they gonna tell?! And why make them suffer possible mistreatment via lack of explanations? Although, I can see why Mrs. Chang would not be told things, since she was going back into the real world and could become a liability, especially if disgruntled.

Capcom said...

Well I would bet that TPTB will throw something out there like that to give us some giggles and/or blank stares of confusion at the TV. :o)

memphish said...

Boy, not much to talk about this episode huh?

So for anyone who thinks Ilana and Bram are Dharma, do we think they are in fact Dharma Babies? Did they also lack the time to contact Charlotte? Or did Bram throw her out of a van too? I guess Faraday has covered all the bases at this point. Child of an Other (I guess that's still speculation); member of Dharma.

I saw a movie last night on TCM that I think many LoCos here might enjoy. It's called So Long At The Fair. It's a nice mysterious thriller dealing with perception and lies set at the Paris World's Fair where they first built the Eiffel Tower. If you get a chance, check it out. I think you'll all like it.

Capcom said...

Dangitt, I forgot to watch that last night Memphish! I hope they air it again sometime.

lost2010 said...

The Dharma Babies being led by Annie. . .yeah. . .that could work. . .that's what I'm going with.

2costa said...

i guess i'm not the only one that thinks there may be three different factions at work here on the island in 2007. I read something funny somewhere, where they said that since what happened happened, hugo's empire strikes back is the movie we have always known with his tweaks intact and that's why it is the strongest of all the star wars movies,lol. Incidentilly I have always heard that Lawrence Kasden did the bulk of the heavy lifting in the empire strikes back screenplay instead of lucas and thats why it rocked so hard. Fellow star wars nerds may also know that originally the second deathstar was supposed to be built orbiting Kashyyyk, the home planet of the wookies, instead of endor, but lucas thought ewoks would be cuter for the kids. That tweak would have made the second half of jedi rock as hard as the first half.

Ellen said...

Here!
xxoo

TakesaVillage said...

I've got the sickness.
Don't shoot!It's just a bad cold.
I'll be catching up with you all soon. Have a great weekend.
I don't want to miss the chance to get in an early Happy Birthday, and Thank You to our Admin/David.
(4/19)

2costa said...

i think it's doubtful that the shadow of the statue's work for ben. They didn't want miles to go on the freighter and that may have resulted in the donkey wheel not getting turned. I don't think ben would meddle with anything in the timeline of the freightys that might mess up him turning the wheel and eventually sayid shooting him and him becoming an other. I think that dave might be affiliated with the shadows, remember he tried to convince hurley to jump off the cliff. Hurley being dead that early may have had a simuliar timeline changing effect as miles never boarding the frieghter. I also think Ghost libby may have worked with the shadows, in that she was trying to make Micheal do the opposite of what Ben and or Christain wanted him to do on the freighter. I also think that Ben knew about the 815'ers that went time skipping and that jin didn't survive the first time, but mike's idea with freezing the battery saved enough time for Jin to make it to the deck and subsequently live this time around.

memphish said...

Happy Birthday Admin aka David! Hope you, the wife and kid are enjoying Season 5!

bigdog said...

Happy b-day Admin.

bigdog said...

not much to add. just catching up.

urban elysium said "uneventful, but i loved it anyway. exactly how i feel about this season. except for juliet and sawyer. i like them working and being together.

a third group just makes my head hurt. but i guess it could be tied to richard since he is the only one who is not actually an other or di he is the ageless wonder. he may not remember birthdays but he had to come from somewhere/someone.

2costa - libby has been involved with the two biggest wildcards on the show - desmond and hurley, you could be on to something.

when i saw the numbers being put on the hatch i thought was leonard somewhere around wearing a hard hat?

lastly - loved the miles/chang hurley car ride... actually i like country, made me almost choke on the water i was drinking at the time.

maven said...

Happy Birthday to Admin/David (our fearless founder)! Hope you're enjoying your family and LOST!

Capcom said...

Happy Birthday wishes David!! And thanks again for starting us up here! :-D

Tess315 said...

Happy Birthday Admin. David!
Hope you had a good day.
Thanks for setting up this blog.

bigdog
I agree with you and urban elysium.

urban elysium said "uneventful, but i loved it anyway. exactly how i feel about this season.This season hasn't been very interesting but I've liked it.
The first 3 episodes I loved, then after that it's been pretty much so-so.

Beverly said...

I finally goit caught up with all the comments after a very busy week kept me away from TLC.

I was thinking that the shadow people worked for Widmore and that Sun had tipped off Widmore about flight 316 when she disappeared from the church that night. But Bram's discussion with Miles pretty much kills the idea that they are working for Widmore.

That said, I still think that's what Sun did when she left the church. Someone on that plane was a Widmore plant - maybe Caesar?

Zort70 said...

Hi all, this episode had as much in the background as it did in the main story.

When I saw the episode title (just before watching) I thought that it was a spelling mistake ! Loved the Star Wars references even if I didn't agree with every thing there. Perhaps Hurley's ideas will be used for the Star Wars TV show being planned !

With the seeming confirmation that the other others are not Widmores, I think it would be a bit odd to introduce a third party that we have never seen up to this point. So the main suspect for me is Locke, possibly in cahoots with Richard. I think they have both been to the time where the statue was present with the well. Either by time travel or living through the time.

Loved the Swan hatch serial numbers scene, I wonder if the numbers on the hatch are the start or they are there for a purpose ? Are there other serial numbers on the other station doors ?

We now know why Miles asked for 3.2 million from Ben when he first arrived on the island, although it still could have been some sort of code word pre-arranged.

So does the Comic Con video happen soon in the 1970's timeline ? Am I right in thinking that this will be the end of this years episodes ?

Zort70 said...

My viewing of Lost was slightly overshadowed this week because a programme I watched just before Lost sent shivers of joy down my spine !

The programme was called "Mud, Sweat and Tractors : The Story of Agriculture" and talked about Dairy farming in the UK.

After a few seconds watching it became obvious that one of the farms featured in this was my grandfathers brothers farm. It had old Cine film and video of them that I had never seen before, and featured many places that I knew very well when I was younger !

My Greatgrandfather was a farmer and split his farm between the two sons he had. I lived near and occasionally worked on the farm from when I was born until a few years ago. Great Uncle John had the farm down the road so it was great to see all of that history.

Sorry for the diversion but I was so pumped up after seeing it that I had to rewind Lost three time in the first 10 minutes as I wasn't concentrating.

Amused2bHere said...

wow Zort! how cool is that? must have just blown your socks off.

belated Happy Birthday to our Admin David! best wishes to the fam
too

not much to talk about, much to think about though. hmmmmm

I hope the clip show this week will be refreshing, maybe give us some clarity on stuff. meh, I can hope, right?

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Tess315 said...

zort, unexpectantly seeing your great uncle's farm on a tv program must have been great!

If the clip show does what the ABC promo says, gives us the 06 story from a new prespective. (Highly doubtful ABC's promos rarely ring true.) Then it will be better than seeing a backstory of Sun and Frank and who ever else they want to throw in.

I'm tired of seeing backstories that are not really giving us much more information.

They ended last season with we've got to go back! And spent the first part of this season trying to get back.

For what!? To sit back and wait? If they have something so important to do then let's just get on with it and do it.

I'm sorry I'm being snarky again. But they hyped it up about how important it was to get back. That something miraclous will happen when they do.

What, is it so Jack can make them all sandwiches? ;) lol

lost2010 said...

Yes, if we must be subjected to all this sandwich making, they need to lose the Dharma coveralls and give him back his chest hair. . .oops, did I say that out loud. . .sorry.

Zort70 said...

Sandwich making fantasies aside, Jack has had nothing to do this season.

Will he have an important role to play at the end or they just keeping him around so that he can be part of the next season. (I can't say last season just yet)

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lost2010 said...

I suspect that last season was the one when we watched Jack's handling of the O6.

And this season was when we watched Sawyer/Locke's handling of the O5.

And hopefully, next season, they'll all be back together working toward a common goal. Or at least we'll know whose on what side for a little while. . .

lost2010 said...

Should have said "O5 and Leftbehinds".

memphish said...

Zort said:Sandwich making fantasies aside, Jack has had nothing to do this season.But what about Ray and his shoes? More seriously, I've really liked this season. It has slowed down in Dharmaville, but I like the Dharmaville episodes, mainly because I'm loving the Sawyer/Juliet thing in the Dharmaville. I am ready for it to pick up the pace. The season has also been of victim of how separated the characters have been all season because it has resulted in episodes that are group centric to the point where we don't see characters for multiple episodes at a time. And that can be a problem if your personal favorites are being under utilized, but I guess I've gotten enough of my favorites that I've truly enjoyed it.

memphish said...

Why did blogger ignore my spacing? Sorry that's all crammed together. It's not how I typed it.

Zort70 said...

There is something about Dharamville, in any time period, that I like. I can't quite put my finger on why I like it so much.

Capcom said...

Wow Zort, learning local history is great enough, but having it be personal and having visual archives of it is doubly fantastic! I hope that you can get copies of that for yourself. I love history, and I find that just so exciting for you! If you do, maybe you can even post it on your site so we can see it too? :-D

Interesting point about Caesar Lostit. The looks that he and Ilana gave each other were ambiguous and could either be interpreted as acknowledgement or suspicion. But the fact that he hid the shotgun from her leads one to think that they were not together (as opposed to being together but one or both of them being mavericks like Widmore). The fact that they recently both took the stance of control over the beached 316s also looked like they both have heavy agendas. Now we know for sure about Ilana and Bram from last week. But I guess it will take a while to learn who Caesar was with, now that he's dead...maybe. Ben sure seemed to know something about him, enough to play up being on his side and ultimately blasting him after he got his shotgun back.

I'm trying to be patient with this season, but I guess we can say that it's not quite as off-track as the first part of season 3 where TPTB had to set up the Hydra situation and information. Some set up for DIville is necessary I guess and I have been super curious about all that since TLE, but I do also wish that we could get to the juicy stuff already. :-o

Tess315 said...

memphish
I've been having trouble with spacing too. Especially after using html code for italics.

camcom
I'd take the first half of season 3 over the last half (so far) of this season.
I really didn't mind Hydra island. I felt there was a pupose for it.

Except for the first 3 episodes this season, for the most part it has seemed like filler to me.

Zort70 said...

Sayid'sgirl I'm not sure this series has been all filler, although it does seem like it has been at two different speeds so far, it may be that we have discussed the answers so long that when they come they are not exciting enough.

It would be interesting to get the view of someone who never uses internet forums and just watches the show as it happens.


Capcom, I recorded it on my PVR so it will be copied to DVD fairly soon.

You may be able to watch it online at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00jzjf8

There are two farms featured and the one to look for is Nick Gosling.

maven said...

Zort: That's awesome about your family farm being featured!

I'm looking forward to this weeks clip show. I'm sure ABC is over-hyping it with the tease of more info, but it's always good to get an overall perspective.

Capcom said...

Hahah Sayidsgirl. X-D

Awesome Zort, tx for the link I'll look for it!

I'm wondering from who's different perspective this recap is supposed to be seen. I sure hope not Nikki's and Paulo's again! :o) Maybe Mrs.Hawkings????? Hoorah, if so!

lost2010 said...

Just going to take a wild guess here. . .wasn't there an E! True Hollywood type feature on the dvd? Maybe it's that perspective. . .and expose of sorts. . .

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Tess315 said...

zort
I agree that it hasn't actually been filler. But it hasn't been that interesting at times. I usually get surpised at least once in a season. (maybe that's yet to come)
This season isn't the answer filled season they promoted. It's more like tying up loose ends before next season.

And the fact that we discuss it alot does make a difference.

But even the episodes that were filler like when Hurley had found the Dharma Van was interesting and fun. And I feel it had a purpose for Hurley and Charlie who finally let go and trusted and beleived.

This season is just to disjointed.
Like memphish said the characters have been victim of how separated the are.
Not so much that we don't get to see our favorite characters but we don't get to see the interaction we're use to.

The ensemble working together for a common cause or even against one another. That's what I've gotten use to.

Now the only one working towards anything is Sawyer. Everyone else seems to have their own separate agendas.

And like I said in the episode post. It doesn't mean I don't like Lost anymore I do. Or I'll quit watching I won't.

Capcom said...

Now that would be awesome Lost2010. :-D

You're right Zort, James is trying to hold everything together, like attempting to hold all the ropes of their story/tapestry together, and some are now slipping out of his hands until the whole thing is going to unravel I assume.

Capcom said...

Say a prayer for Professor Hawking today, he's been ill:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97M9TNG0&show_article=1

memphish said...

I thought this was who I was going to see in that link Capcom.

I have no hopes for the clip show. I loved that conspiracy theory featurette on the DVD, but I don't think this will be that interesting. I think the big clue is that none of the clip shows (and has their ever been a series with more clip show?) have ever been included on the DVDs, at least as far as I remember. If they'd do a clip show that included deleted scenes, now that! would be exciting, but I won't hold my breath.

Capcom said...

LOL Memphish. Nah, this is for real unfortunately. :-(

Yeah, I'm daring TPTB to engage me on this recap session, I don't need no stinking recap. I hope they do, but at this point I'm not planning on taping it. Altho if I've got nothing else to watch without interruption, I might just in case.

memphish said...

I'm planning to tape it watch it later without the commercials. Take that ABC!

lost2010 said...

If it turns out to show us anything new, I trust you guys will clue me in so that I can watch it. Otherwise, I believe I'll give it a miss.

Capcom said...

Roger that. :o)

maven said...

I don't know, gang, I find it tough to pass us anything LOST! LOL

TakesaVillage said...

I'll skip an episode of Lost when they pry the remote out of my cold,dead hand.
I liked the clip show they did before the season premier.
Zort70.That is a great find.Even better than Charlotte's at the Frozen Donkey Wheel Dumping Ground.
I am happy for you.And I will check out your link.

Tess315 said...

I'm with you maven and TAV.
Even though I don't expect anything new. I have to watch it. :)

2costa said...

the story of the oceanic six is just a clip show, but the new perspective might be all the old clips in chronilogical order or maybe a few deleted scenes

Capcom said...

Okay now, a chronological recap I can definitely get into! :-D

LOL, Village!

Beverly said...

I'm re-watching now and I just noticed that Kate didn't bother to change her shirt when she got back from bringing Ben to the others. It was kinda grubby looking when she stopped to talk to Roger at the swingset. (That's it - the clip show will be from the swingset's perspective!)

I also noticed the look Miles gave Chang when Chang said that he liked country music.

And in the van when Bram was talking to Miles, I got the impression that the shadow people are Dharma. He just talked with that utopian kind of view of things that sounds like a Dharma-type sales pitch.

Beverly said...

zort, that is so awesome about seeing those clips of your family's farm! Were you able to record it? Can you get copies of it for your own library? I would definitely want to have something like that to play back whenever I wanted or to sahre with other family members.

Zort70 said...

Sayid'sgirl said... This season is just to disjointed.I completely agree that there have been too many leaps (not meant as a pun) in story. If they had concentrated mostly on the 70's Dharmaville, or possibly on the 316 crash survivors it might have flowed better.

Lots of prayers for Stephen Hawking.

Thanks for all the love about the farm program but I should warn any one wanting to watch it that it is only really interesting to someone who likes cows or is related to one of the contibutors !

Lostit, yes we have it recorded, I've talked to my Mum and apparently there are lots more video available that they didn't use in the program, they are going to send a copy to us to view.

Zort70 said...

Normally clip shows are fairly useless, but can sometimes throw up the odd surprise. I think Stargate was good at doing this.

If the 316 people are the start of a reconstituted Dharma, would that have been the proper end point of the aborted ARG this year ? That we got insider knowledge of the DI returning ?

Tess315 said...

Happy Birthday Ellen!

Zort70 said...

At least someone is on the case Sayid'sgirl :-)

Happy Birthday Ellen

Tess315 said...

zort said:
If the 316 people are the start of a reconstituted Dharma, would that have been the proper end point of the aborted ARG this year ? That we got insider knowledge of the DI returning ?That's a good questioin. I'm betting you're right that's what we would have gotten. If it's the case they are the reconstituted DI.

Tess315 said...

zort
To be fair, I noticed it was her birthday yesterday because of my myspace page.
But I do try to check as often as I can to get the wishes in on time.
TAV usually beats me to it.

Zort70 said...

This is a picture of the episode this week just before Dan gets off the sub.

does the bearded guy in the background look familiar ?

http://www.zort.co.uk/photos/album/userimages/2/20090421124343/scientists.jpg

memphish said...

Happy Birthday Ellen!

Zort, I'm hoping these people are Dharma to make that ARG mean anything. But on the negative side it's reminding me of how bad that ARG was. But given that Find 815 was directly relevant to S4, I figure this ARG has to be too. Though at this point if it's Ben's B team or even C team I won't be shocked. Ben always has a plan.

Has anyone tried to compare Felix from this episode to the guy Widmore was having beaten up in the video Ben shows Locke?

memphish said...

Look here Zort.

Zort70 said...

memphish, that link didn't work, it had qan extra character.

Memphish LinkI'm not sure they are the same, the one in your link looks larger, the one from the sub is quite thin in his face.

Zort70 said...

An extra character like my spelling of "an" !

bigdog said...

Happy birthday Ellen.

Zort - pretty cool. i am glad they will be able to send the extra footage

clip show...i dont want to watch,,have no expectations of learning anything new..not happy that its on..but will watch like always.

memphish said...

That was it. Thanks for fixing it Zort. I'm not caffeinated enough yet apparently.

memphish said...

Is anyone here watching Better Off Ted? The first 2 episodes were a little slow, but by episode 3 they started working things out and last week was hilarious. I'll probably record from Better Off Ted through The Unusuals but not start watching until after 8 pm Central, Kiddo's got his choir program, that way I can skip all the commercials.

BTW, if you're watching The Unusuals there is a new episode tonight at 10 Eastern/Pacific, then another new show on Wednesday. Set your DVRs or viewing schedules accordingly.

Capcom said...

Happy B-day MsEllen! *<:o)8

LOL Zort about the farm film, but I'm such a history buff, if they only showed old barns and farm tools of days gone by that would seem awesome to me. :-B

I agree, I feel that we would have known more about the recon-DI on 316 if we had been "on" the flight with them as we were supposed to be. Now we'll never know what might have been if we had been, boohoo.

For a minute I thought that old guy in your link was Terrence Stamp, Zort. If he was in Lost I would die, I love him, especially in Young Guns. drooooool

BTW, what the heck Lost2010, CBS put NCIS on at the same time as Fringe?! Idiots.

Capcom said...

P.S. I flipped to BOT a few times Memphish, and all I ever saw was junk about office sex. :-p I'll give it a try again, since corporate labs were my world for 30 years, so I will probably relate to some of it.

maven said...

Happy Birthday to Ellen! (I knew it was her birthday because we're Facebook friends.)

memphish said...

The Ace of Cakes episode with the Lost cake whose pictures have been featured on DarkUFO and elsewhere will air May 9th on the Food Network. The normal time is 10 pm Eastern. I assume that will be the case here as well.

Capcom said...

Tx Memphish!

lost2010 said...

Happy birthday Ellen!!!

OT to Capcom - How dare they? And this the one Tuesday in a month I haven't been at the ballpark. Can you tell if there's an arc to NCIS
this season? I can't seem to pick up on it if there is.

Capcom said...

I haven't noticed, but then again I've been switching channels a lot when it's on. I'll have to pay more attention. It seems like once everyone got back onboard after getting separated, everything was hunkdorey, so I don't even understand why they wasted time with that whole thing.

Oh well, at least now I can watch The Mentalist after Fringe, but what a rotten trade-off. :-p

TakesaVillage said...

Happy Birthday Ellen.
Many happy go backs.
Did you guys see Jorge Garcia on Bonnie Hunt today? He said his favorite Lost scene was sharing the Apollo bar with Michael Emerson.

Capcom said...

I happened to see that by accident and I had the computer already shut down or else I would have jumped on to tell you'se guys. :-o

Ellen said...

Thank you all for your kind wishes!
I enjoyed my birthday very much...

Happy belated Birthday to David!!!

To all: Happy EARTH DAY!
xxoo

memphish said...

Haooy Lost Clipshow Day! Is that happy? I guess in that it gets us one day closer to new Lost it is.

Tess315 said...

Happy Lost clip Day!

Tess315 said...

lol memphish great minds. You beat me to it. ;)

Tess315 said...

Oh and yes Happy Earth Day.

TakesaVillage said...

Happy Lost Earth Clip Day Loco's.
Over on Dispatches from the Island,(http://dispatchesfromtheisland.blogspot.com/) Jorge Garcia is already on vacation.
This season doesn't end until May 13.Now that's time travel.

maven said...

Happy Earth Day and Happy Clip Show Day!

TakesaVillage said...

Also from Bonnie Hunt yesterday.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tElYGN9CICc
Minor spoiler hints,but no major reveals.

Zort70 said...

I hope the clip show is not as boring as it might be, let me know what it is like as we may not get it in the UK.

lost2010 said...

OT: Capcom - Was Fringe worth watching? I got tangled up revising a chapter and forgot to watch.

Capcom said...

Fringe was good, it was kind of confusing at first so I have to rewatch it before I write a post up for it. It boiled down to (without spoilers) more connections between Olivia and those chemical treatments that she got in Florida as a kid. But the ending is something of a shocker concerning that. BTW, have y'all seen that The Observer has been showing up in places like Yankee games and American Idol?! LMAO!!!! I wonder what he gets paid to do that? X-D Check out Dennis' Fringe Television blog for more info.

OK, you guys got me pumped up about the clip show's possiblities tonight! :o)

2costa said...

someone pointed out that perhaps, locke, sun, and ben, are in 2007 and not 1977 because they all had contact with widmore while they were off the island. Perhaps his exile also prevents people who come in contact him with having a chance to change things in the past?

lost2010 said...

2costa - I like that idea! That's the first one I've heard that has sort of a concrete reason why they all got split up.

memphish said...

I like that idea too 2Costa.

I'm still sticking to the unpredictability because of Aaron and Walt's absence and that Sun is the one with the most at stake because of her desire to reunite with Jin so the Island kept her from jumping so that she'll bring them back. Ben didn't jump because he's not supposed to be there and Locke is there to stop Ilana's group. It's the best I got.

I can't quite reconcile how all that's going to work with what I feel might happen with the 77ers. I like the idea that Daniel causes the Incident sending them all back to their original timeline meaning that in 2007 they are the ages they are now. Will the 77ers get to the 2007ers or vice versa or will they meet somewhere in the middle?

maven said...

That thinking makes sense, 2costa. It's something they all have in common.

Memphish: I'm on that page, too. I think it's Daniel that will be involved in the Incident and somehow the 77ers (like that designation) get zapped back to 2007. I just hope that everyone ends up in their right time line when this is over, having done whatever they were supposed to do to correct whatever they were supposed to.

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最近様々なメディアで紹介されている家出掲示板では、全国各地のネットカフェ等を泊り歩いている家出少女のメッセージが多数書き込みされています。彼女たちはお金がないので掲示板で知り合った男性とすぐに遊びに行くようです。あなたも書き込みに返事を返してみませんか

救援部 said...

オ○ニーライフのお手伝い、救援部でHな見せたがり女性からエロ写メ、ムービーをゲットしよう!近所の女の子なら実際に合ってHな事ができちゃうかも!?夏で開放的になっている女の子と遊んじゃおう

逆援助 said...

メル友募集のあそび場「ラブフリー」はみんなの出逢いを応援する全国版の逆援助コミュニティーです!女の子と真剣にお付き合いしたい方も、複数の女性と戯れたい方も今すぐ無料登録からどうぞ

倶楽部 said...

簡単にお小遣い稼ぎをしたい方必見、当サイト逆¥倶楽部では無料登録して女性の性の欲求に応えるだけのアルバイトです。初心者でもすぐに高収入の逆¥交際に興味をもたれた方はTOPページまでどうぞ。

プロフ公開 said...

サイト作成は初めてでぇす。プロフは友達も作ってたので私も頑張って作成しました。プロフもってる人はメル友になって見せ合いっこしませんか?メアドのせてるので連絡ください。love-friend0925@docomo.ne.jp

素人 said...

男性が主役の素人ホストでは、女性の体を癒してあげるだけで高額な謝礼がもらえます。欲求不満な人妻や、男性と出逢いが無い女性が当サイトで男性を求めていらっしゃいます。興味のある方はTOPページからどうぞ

家出 said...

これから家出したい少女や、現在家出中の娘とそんな娘と遊びたい人を繋げるSOS掲示板です。家庭内の問題などでやむなく家出している子が多数書き込みしています。女の子リストを見て彼女たちにメールを送ってみませんか

SM度チェッカー said...

あなたのSM度をかんたん診断、SM度チェッカーで隠された性癖をチェック!真面目なあの娘も夜はドS女王様、ツンデレなあの子も実はイジめて欲しい願望があるかも!?コンパや飲み会で盛り上がること間違いなしのおもしろツールでみんなと盛り上がろう

セフレ said...

男性なら一人くらいは作ってみたいセフレですが、実は女性もいつでもSEXしたいときにできる友達がほしいと思っているのです。そのような彼女たちの欲求を満たしてあげませんか

デリバリーホスト said...

女性向け風俗サイトで出張デリバリーホストをしてみませんか?時給2万円の高額アルバイトです。無料登録をしてあとは女性からの呼び出しを待つだけなので、お試し登録も歓迎です。興味をもたれた方は今すぐどうぞ。

家出 said...

「家出してるんで、泊まるところないですか?」家出掲示板には毎日このような女の子からの書き込みがされています。彼女たちは家やホテルに泊まらせてあげたり、遊んであげるだけであなたに精一杯のお礼をしてくれるはずです

チェッカー said...

SM度チェッカーで隠された性癖をチェック!外見では分からない男女のSM指数をチェックして相性のいい相手を見つけ、SMプレイしてみよう!合コンや飲み会で盛り上がること間違いなしのおもしろツールをみんなとやってみよう

熟女サークル said...

性欲のピークを迎えたセレブ熟女たちは、お金で男性を買うことが多いようです。当、熟女サークルでは全国各地からお金持ちのセレブたちが集まっています。女性から男性への報酬は、 最低15万円からとなっております。興味のある方は一度当サイト案内をご覧ください

メル友募集中 said...

プロフ見た感想を携帯アドの方に送ってください。悪口は気が病むので止めておいて欲しいですjewely.jmtjd@docomo.ne.jp

グリー said...

ネットで恋人探しなら、グリーをおすすめします。ここからあなたの理想の恋愛関係がはじまります。純粋な出会いから、割り切ったエッチな出会いまで何でもあります。ミクシーから女の子が大量流入中!ココだけの話、今が狙い目です

玉の輿度チェッカー said...

当サイトは、みんなの「玉の輿度」をチェックできる性格診断のサイトです。ホントのあなたをズバリ分析しちゃいます!玉の輿度には、期待以上の意外な結果があるかも

救援部 said...

女の子のオ○ニーを見るだけで稼げる救援部では、見るだけで3万円、お手伝いしてあげると5万円の報酬となります。業界一の女性会員数を誇る当サイトで女性会員様の性の願望を救援してあげて下さい

モバゲー said...

モバゲー発の友達探しコミュニティー、出逢い広場は簡単な無料登録するだけで使い放題でメンバー同士、気軽にメッセージのやり取りが出来るよ!モバゲー好きの女の子と出逢いのチャンスがあるかも!?詳しくはTOPページにアクセスしてみよう

セレブ said...

セレブラブでは心とカラダに癒しを求めるセレブ女性と会って頂ける男性を募集しています。セレブ女性が集まる当サイトではリッチな彼女たちからの謝礼を保証、安心して男性はお金、女性は体の欲求を満たしていただけます。興味がある方は当サイトトップページからぜひどうぞ

プロフ said...

携帯アドのせておきました。恥ずかしい写真とか乗せてるけど、許してください。ネット友達探してるのでよかったら連絡ください。for-a-sweetheart@docomo.ne.jp

ゲイ said...

ゲイの数が飛躍的に増えている現代、彼らの出逢いの場は雑誌やハッテン場からネットに移り変わってきています。当サイトは日本最大のゲイ男性の交流の場を目指して作られました。おかげさまで会員数も右肩上がりに伸びています。ゲイの方や興味のある方はぜひ当サイトをご覧ください。

名言チェッカー said...

簡単な設問に答えるだけで貴方にふさわしい名言がわかる、名言チェッカー!あなたの本当の性格を見抜けちゃいます。世界の偉人達が残した名言にはどことなく重みがあるものです

家出 said...

家出した少女たちは今晩泊る所がなく、家出掲示板で遊び相手を探しているようです。ご飯をおごってあげたり、家に泊めてあげるだけで彼女たちは体でお礼をしてくれる娘が多いようです

素人 said...

さびしい女性や、欲求不満な素人女性たちを心も体も癒してあげるお仕事をご存じですか?女性宅やホテルに行って依頼主の女性とHしてあげるだけで高額の謝礼を手に入れる事が出来るのです。興味のある方は当サイトTOPページをご覧ください

公開プロフ said...

最近いい事ない人集合!話聞いて欲しいって時ないですか?やけに寂しいんですよね。私も聞くので私のも聞いてください。メアド乗せておくのでメールから始めましょうfull-of-hope@docomo.ne.jp

高額アルバイト said...

性欲を持て余し、欲求不満になっている女性を金銭の対価を得て、癒して差し上げるお仕事です。参加にあたり用紙、学歴等は一切問いません。高額アルバイトに興味のある方はぜひどうぞ

グリー said...

グリーで広げよう、掲示板の輪!グリーから飛び出た出会いの掲示板が楽しめるのはここだけ、無料登録するだけで友達・趣味トモ・恋人が探せちゃいます

右脳左脳チェッカー said...

パーティーや合コンでも使える右脳左脳チェッカー!あなたの頭脳を分析して直観的な右脳派か、理詰めな左脳派か診断出来ます。診断結果には思いがけない発見があるかも!みんなで診断して盛り上がろう

救援部 said...

救援部ではHな女の子のオナ写メが無料で見れちゃいます。また好奇心旺盛でいろんな事をしてみたい女の子たちが自分の一人Hを手伝ってくれる男性を探しています。ここでヤればヤるほどキレイになると信じている女の子達と遊んでみませんか

野外露出 said...

野外露出の掟・・・それはいかに通報されないで脱ぐかですが、合法的に露出プレイを楽しめる方法があるのをご存じですか?当サイトで露出パートナーを探したりプレイ出来る場所を提供を探したり出来るのです。興味のある方はどうぞ

出張ホスト said...

女性会員様増加につき、出張ホストのアルバイトが不足中です。ホテルや女性の自宅に出向き、彼女たちの欲望を満たすお手伝いをしてくれる男性アルバイトをただいま募集しております。興味のある方はTOPページをご覧ください

友達募集 said...

美容院いってきた記念に写メを更新しました。結構気に入ってるんですけどどうですか?メール乗せておくのでメッセお待ちしてるなりmiracle.memory@docomo.ne.jp

家出掲示板 said...

最近雑誌やTVで紹介されている家出掲示板では、全国各地のマンガ喫茶等を泊り歩いている家出少女のメッセージが多数書き込みされています。彼女たちはお金がないので掲示板で知り合った男性の家にでもすぐに遊びに行くようです。あなたも書き込みに返事を返してみませんか

勝ち組負け組 said...

人生において君は、勝ち組なのか負け組なのか!これからの将来を診断する勝ち組、負け組チェッカーをあなたも体験してみない?勝ち組になりたいのならココで診断してて損はない♪みんなでやっても大盛り上がりの勝ち組、負け組チェッカーはココから今すぐ診断

高級チェリー said...

高級チェリーの秋は童貞卒業のシーズンです。童貞を食べたい女性達もウズウズしながら貴方との出会いを待っています。そんなセレブ達に童貞を捧げ、貴方もハッピーライフをってみませんか

童貞 said...

童貞を奪ってみたい女性たちは、男性にとって「初体験」という一生に一度だけの、特別なイベントを共に心に刻み込むことを至上の喜びにしているのです。そんな童貞好きな女性たちと最高のSEXをしてみませんか

プロフ said...

プロフ作ったわいいけど見てくれる人いなくて少し残念な気分に陥ってます。意見でもいいので見た方がいましたら一言コメント送ってくだしゃいメアドのせているのでよろしくでしゅapotheosis@docomo.ne.jp

乱交パーティー said...

乱交パーティー実施サークル、「FREE SEX NET」では人に見られること、人に見せつける事が大好きな男女が集まり、乱交パーティーを楽しむサークルです。参加条件は「乱交が好きな18歳以上の健康な方」です。興味がある方はぜひ当サイトをご覧ください

盗撮掲示板 said...

全国各地の名うての盗撮のプロたちが自身のコレクションを密かに交換する、完全会員制・盗撮掲示板。門外不出のここでしか見られないお宝ばかりです。話題のhaman動画よりヤバイ動画をゲットしよう

精神年齢 said...

あなたの秘められた精神年齢をチェックできる診断サイトです。ここであなたの実際の精神年齢が簡単な質問でわかっちゃいます。普段は子供っぽいあの人も実は大人の思考の持ち主で子供っぽく振舞ってるだけかも知れませんよ

家出 said...

家出している女の子と遊んでみませんか?彼女たちはお金に困っているので、掲示板で知り合ったいろんな男の家を泊り歩いている子も多いのです。そんな子たちとの出逢いの場を提供しています

gree said...

ネットで恋人探しなら、greeをおすすめします。ここからあなたの理想の恋愛関係が始まります。純粋な出逢いから、割り切ったHな出逢いまで何でもあります。ミクシーから女の子が大量流入中!ココだけの話、今が狙い目です

逆¥交際 said...

出会ぃも今は逆¥交際!オンナがオトコを買う時代になりました。当サイトでは逆援希望の女性が男性を自由に選べるシステムを採用しています。経済的に成功を収めた女性ほど金銭面は豊かですが愛に飢えているのです。いますぐTOPページからどうぞ

プロフ said...

世界の中心で貴方を叫ぶような恋がしたいんです。愛に飢えているゆいと恋バナ話ませんか?メアドのっけてるので気になる方は連絡頂戴ねuna-cima@docomo.ne.jp

人生の値段チェッカ said...

今までの人生経験を診断できる人生の値段チェッカー!経験豊富な君の人生は一体何点なのか?みんなでやれば超楽しい、芸能人達もやってる人生の値段チェック!テレビや口コミで広がっている人生の値段チェッカーをあなたも体感してみよう

出張ホスト said...

女性向け風俗サイトで出張ホストをしてみませんか?時給2万円以上の高額アルバイトです。無料登録をしてあとは女性からの呼び出しを待つだけでOK、お試し登録も歓迎です。興味をもたれた方は今すぐどうぞ。

人生の値段 said...

人生の値段を診断してみませんか?自分の価値を診断してあなたの生涯年収、人間としての価格が丸裸になります。友達と一緒にチャレンジして絆を深めよう

エロ動画 said...

流出からハメ撮りまでマニアも満足のエロ動画満載、抜きたくなったらチャットでサックと約束、有無を言わさずサックと中出し、便器女を簡単get出来るサイトです

若妻 said...

セレブと言われる世の若妻は男に飢えています、特に地位が邪魔して出会いが意外と少ないから、SEXサークルを通じて日頃のストレス発散に毎日男を買い漁っています。ここは彼女達ご用達の口コミサイトです

家出 said...

一人で家出したんだけど助けてほしいです。今まで強がってました。もう親には頼れない…super-love.smile@docomo.ne.jp

お宝映像 said...

激レア映像!芸能人のお宝映像を一挙公開中!無料登録するだけでレアなお宝映像やハプニング画像が取り放題、期間限定の動画も見逃せない

動物占い said...

大人気、動物占いであなたの秘められた野性がわかる!草食系と思っていたあの子も実は肉食動物かも知れない!意外性のある占いをみんなで楽しもう

熟女 said...

仕事を辞めてください。一日で今の月収を超えるお誘いがあります。某有名セレブ熟女の強い要望により少しの間、恋人契約という女性からのお申し込みがありました。今までは地位や名誉のために頑張ってこられたようでございますが年齢を重ね、寂しさが強くなってきたようでございます。男性との時間を欲しがっている女性に癒しを与えてくださいませ

エロ漫画 said...

エロアニメナビ・エロ漫画好きにはたまらないお宝満載!激アツなサイトだけを選りすぐりました。女の子にも男の子にも使いやすく無料で出会えるサイトばかりを掲載しています

1人H said...

1人Hのお手伝い、救援部でHな見せたがり女性からエロ写メ、ムービーをゲットしよう!近所の女の子なら実際に合ってHな事ができちゃうかも!?開放的な女の子と遊んじゃおう

メール said...

ストーカーの追い回されて怖いんです。毎日夜になると非通知電話多いし怖い。。。助けてくださいpeach-.-girl@docomo.ne.jp

スタビ said...

復活、スタービーチ!日本最大の友達探しサイトがついに復活、進化を遂げた新生スタービーチをやってみませんか?理想のパートナー探しの手助け、合コンパーティー等も随時開催しています。楽しかった頃のスタビを体験しよう

処女 said...

「友達の中で処女なのは私だけ…でも恥ずかしくて処女だなんて言えない、誰でもイイからバージンを貰ってほしい!」そんな女性が沢山いる事をご存じですか?出合いが無かった、家が厳格だった等の理由でHを経験したことがない女性がたくさんいるのです。当サイトはそんな女性たちと男性を引き合わせるサイトです

メアド開運 said...

メアド開運、あなたの使ってるメアドを診断出来ちゃうサイト!吉と出るか凶と出るかはあなた次第、普段使ってるメアドの金運、恋愛運が測定できちゃいます

逆¥交際 said...

今話題の逆¥交際!あなたはもう体験しましたか?当サイトでは逆援希望の女性が男性を自由に選べるシステムを採用しています。成功を収めた女性ほど金銭面は豊かですが愛に飢えているのです。いますぐTOPページからどうぞ

豪華賞品 said...

只今、シャープ32型液晶テレビ、PS3等、豪華商品が当たるキャンペーンを実施中!まずは欲しい商品を選び、メールアドレスを登録して無料エントリー!その場で当たりが出たら賞品ゲットできます。抽選に外れた方もWチャンスで商品券等が当たります。ぜひチャレンジして下さい

副収入 said...

一夜限りの割り切ったお付き合いで副収入が得られる交際サイトのご案内です。アルバイト感覚での挑戦もできる、安心の無料登録システムを採用しておりますので、興味のある方は当サイトへぜひどうぞ

メル友 said...

彼氏にDVされて、ちょっと男性不信です。でも、恋愛して彼氏も作りたいと思ってるので、優しく接してくれる人を探してます。連絡待ってまぁす! pretty-toy-poodle@docomo.ne.jp

神待ち said...

家出をして不安な少女たちの書込が神待ち掲示板に増えています。一日遊んであげたり、家に招いて泊まらせてあげるだけで、彼女たちはあなたに精一杯のお礼をしてくれるはずです

乱交 said...

全国乱交連盟主催、スワップパーティーに参加しませんか?初めての方でも安心してお楽しみいただけるパーティーです。参加費は無料、開催地も全国に120ヶ所ありますので気軽に参加してお楽しみ下さい

アブノーマル said...

SM・露出・スワッピング・レズ・女装・フェチなど…普通じゃ物足りないあなたが思う存分楽しめる世界!貴方だけのパートナーを探してみませんか?アブノーマルでしか味わえない至福の時をお過ごしください