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This episode of the Lost Community Podcast is full of hosts David A Dein and Steve "The Goog" Guglich going on many tangents! So if you don't like that kind of thing BEWARE! For everybody else this episode contains a bunch of e-mails and phone calls as well as comments from our old friend Dark Angel and a Greatest Hits episode recap by Dennis. ENJOY! Join in the fun by sending your e-mails and MP3 comments to TLCpodcast@gmail.com or call our listener line at 732-564-4763.
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Tuesday, May 22, 2007
The Lost Community Podcast - Episode 25 B
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Again in Reguards to the book club! I Want you guys to know you have full support from the podcast in any way, whether you need a segment? or you think you can fill a whole 60 minute podcast! You have my full production services at your disposal. WORD UP!
My prediction for the finale:
Penny shows up and rescues Desmond, and leaves everyone else behind.
memphish said... But wait, there's more. :) This is a funny recap of Season 3 to this point.
This is SO FUNNY!
My favorite quotes :)
So then Desmond pops up (lol) naked in the jungle and Hurley's all like IS THAT HAGGIS IN YOUR POCKET OR ARE YOU JUST HAPPY TO SEE ME, DUDE?
And then we found out that Claire used to be goth for some reason, and then we found out why she's so bitchy! She is Jack's little sister! And everyone had a good cry!
And then some weird chick fell out of the sky (Naomi) and was all like 'ELLO GUVNAH!
And then Locke was thinking, "Maybe he's born with it" and then Richard turns to him and goes, "Maybe it's Maybelline."
Many said...this whole "why wasn't Desmond there when Charlie was singing in the rain" thing
I thought we put this one to rest a long time ago.
Looking at the scenes, it is clear that they are different streetcorners, different days, different wardrobes (and no "Hieronymous" sign in the guitar case).
The only things the same are Charlie, his guitar, the rain, and "WonderWall". Charlie loves his guitar, loves "Wonderwall," and while London is not Seattle, it does rain quite a bit.
Happy Lost Day Eve! OMG I was LOL (to the point of tears) at memphish's link, "funny recap of season3"!!
Also went to the Regis & Kelly clip of Evagenline Lilly and it's got me really pumped for tomorrow nite!
As far as the book club, I think we should wait til after tomorrow nite to make our list of books. We may want to change/add to the list after the season finale.
That is so great of you to offer a podcast for our bookclub Passafist!
Good Lost-eve everyone.
memphish... thanks for that recap link. And I agree with dennis and codysmom -- it is too funny! I laughed out loud a few times and I know people were wondering what was so funny!
Let's state what we think would be the biggest shocking moment of the finale. Mine is:
THAT THE OTHERS REALLY ARE THE GOOD GUYS
Morning Pre-Lost Day!
Enjoyed Memphish's link to the funny S3 recap! Check it out.
Thanks, Passafist, for offering the podcast to the TLC Book Club! And thanks to Admin for letting us stay on this blog as the TLC Book Club this summer! (I'm a creature of habit! LOL)
Re Charlie's remembering the day he was called a hero: I still think it's a different day from
Desmond's. Just the fact of the different clothes and different backgrounds. That's what Charlie was doing at that time in his life as a starving artist down on his luck...singing on street corners and singing "Wonderwall" since it was a crowed pleaser. It also rains a lot in London.
Biggest shocking moment of the finale:
LOCKE IS JACOB IN A DIFFERENT TIME LOOP!
maven said... Re Charlie's remembering the day he was called a hero: I still think it's a different day from Desmond's. Just the fact of the different clothes and different backgrounds.
I still think it could be the same day, and the different clothes, etc can be explained by remembering the day differently.
Going back to what I said earlier about the clothes not matching, if they definitely wanted it to be a different day, they would have had him singing a different song, and it wouldn't have rained at the exact same time. They must have left it ambiguous for a reason.
Hi and marking my place for after work.
I agree with maven and engineer27 and that the Des/Charlie thing is a different day.
I am so nervous for tomorrow night...is that odd?
My finale shocker prediction:
THEY GET RESCUED.
Hi all, I hope this hasn't been discussed recently, but there are so many comments I haven't had a chance to read them all. I only get 3 days to read a weeks worth of comments as I don't look at anything Lost related until Late Sunday after the episode airs in the UK.
Anyway enough of the sob story and on with the post.
Does anyone remember Shannon translating Danielle's notes and singing part of it in French ? The tune and possibly the words were from 'Beyond The Sea'. Which always led me to believe the answer to escape or the islands location was linked to the sea they were in somehow.
A link to the lyrics is here
I'm reposting the Season 3 Recap link for those of you who don't have time to troll through the last thread. It's definitely LOL funny.
Zort70, so you think they are in space?
My Season 3 Finale Shocker: Danielle somehow prevents them from being saved because she's been working with Ben all along.
My finale shocker prediction: Desmond wakes up and it's all a dream! j/k
I think it would be cool if they were all rescued but unlikely because they have 3 seasons to go. They could still be lost, but not necessarily on the island. Maybe they would focus on their lives back in the "real" world.
Finale predictions:
Locke survives, and he's going to do everything in his power to stop Jack from getting everyone off the island.
Something something timestreams creating something something hatch something Desmond something something world as we know it. ;)
**********HEROES SPOILERS HEROES SPOILERS*******************
As for Nathan and Peter, I can see either or both dying, but if they did it right, neither would have to (Nathan just lets go of Peter, zooms off). Why couldn't Peter just fly up by himself, anyways?
Parkman is *definitely* in mortal danger.
Hiro... is not going to die. Because he's possibly the best character that Heroes has, and there's no way they're killing him off.
But those were my four. I'd be surprised if more than two go.
****END HEROES SPOILERS*****
I pretty much lean towards what you said Eng27, about Charlie on the corner. It's a pretty fair guess that he didn't only do the troubadour thing once. And the different clothes, corner, etc., would be the silent way (without actual narrative about it) that TPTB tell us that it is a different day.
And wow, to whomever said in the last thread about expecting Charlie to pop up inside the LG, out in The World somewhere, that was an awesome thought! That would have been so radical, like he could have popped up in a pond somewhere in Portland! :-O
Good grief, thanks so much Memphish for that funny recap site, it's too funny!
Here is another tidbit for everyone to chew on....
Alex took the tape recorder (and gave it to John).
Caught up on comments...today is a good day for catching up with the podcasts etc...
Ib4uc: I thought of that too, maybe they'll be rescued and the story would follow how "lost" they are in their lives now in the real world. But I think that would kill the show, at least for me. Too soap opera, ew.
Memphish: thank you for that funny recap link! I laughed so hard I cried! My sides hurt; it's a good thing I am home alone right now, my family would have thought I'd totally lost it!
Hmmmmm, nice thought Eng27! Very possible!
Yes. I am still laughing over that recap, that person is a comic genius. :->
Everyone is welcome. Those are the kind of things I love to read. I'll keep an eye out for them over the break and post when I find them.
E27 -- I like it about Alex and the tape recorder. That would explain Ben and Richard's apparent real shock about its absence.
Memphish - I was thinking more of the love story angle :-)
Book Club: I'd be willing to swap out Catch22 for Through the Looking Glass. Probably more relevant, anyway. But I am reading Watership Down now, so I hope we don't switch the first book on the list.
I don't have any other preferences, I'll do whatever the admins decide.
It's very nice that Admin and Passafist are willing to let the book club use both the blog and the podcast to play in. You guys rock!
Thought I'd re-post...
REGARDING "THE LOST COMMUNITY BOOK CLUB" Dennis sent me this message. Below is my response. I'd love your feedback:
Dennis said...
David,
Some people have been asking about the Book Club over the summer. I think Melissa_Lossa is "running" it. Should they create their own blog for this (lostbookclub@blogspot.com )? Of do you want them to do it at TLC.
I'm leaning toward seperate blog, but we could link to it from TLC. If we go seperate blog, i'd be glad to set it up.
Dennis
FYI: Here is the list of books, and some comments:
June - Watership Down
July - A Wrinkle In Time
August - The Wonderful Wizard of Oz
August - An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
September - The Third Policeman
October - The Turn of the Screw
October - Of Mice and Men
November - Catch-22
December - Carrie
January - Lord of the Flies
Melissa_Lossa said... I am so sorry that I have not been around more lately - I got hit hard at work yesterday, and I haven't had time to catch my breath yet. If anyone has questions/comments/suggestions pertaining to the book club, please e-mail me at piper.emily@gmail.com. That way, I'll be sure to get it. I apologize for not being a very attentive leader over the last couple of days. I did take a suggestion that I just saw on the last thread, and made a LIstmania List on Amazon of all of the books. It's called The Lost Community Book Club.
Melissa_Lossa said...I'm open to ideas on the book club. As far as I know, we will be staying with this blog (dennis or david, can you please confirm this?)
scoutpost said...Any update on the book club- like how it will work. Will there be certain specific dates for discussion? Did we decide to use this blog? etc. Guess I'm full of questions since the finale is right around the corner.
My Reply
Why not use TLC for the book club? It will be dormant during the "off season" anyways. I would be fine making Melissa & Scoutpost Admins for the hiatus. I'll just slap "book club" on the logo and we will temporarily become "The Lost Community Book Club". That is what I was planning on doing. Let me know if there are good arguments to not do that. What do you think?
capcom said... I pretty much lean towards what you said Eng27, about Charlie on the corner. It's a pretty fair guess that he didn't only do the troubadour thing once. And the different clothes, corner, etc., would be the silent way (without actual narrative about it) that TPTB tell us that it is a different day.
But then why the same song? If they wanted to make it CLEAR that it was a different day, they would have made the OBVIOUIS things different - the song and the raining. Just the small details are different - details that most people didn't notice, until people like us started to over analyze it. :)
Biggest shocking moment of the finale:
Jacob is dead, and the island lets you see dead people. That's why Locke had to kill his father, so he could see dead people too.
Maybe that was his favorite song and he plays it all the time?? Or, it's the song that gets him the most change? Heheheh.
Idunno, my theories never seem to answer every possibility. :o)
MY FINALE SURPRISE PREDICTION:
Some of them get rescued.
amused2bhere: I am reading Watership Down now too. Although I am only 100 pages in, I vote to keep it as first book as well. Bunnies bunnies everywhere...
Hey, guys!
David, thanks for the support on the book club. Work SHOULD be slowing down for me at the end of May, so I'll be able to jump in with both feet.
I agree that we should add Through the Looking Glass, and maybe even Alice in Wonderland to the List. I also agree that we should probably set the absolute final list after the finale. However, I'd like to keep Watership Down as the first book, because several people have already started reading, or at least picked it up already.
Both Alice books are pretty short, so maybe we could combine them with other shorter books on the list.
Oh, and (other) David - thanks for the invite to the podcast! I think we should definitely figure something out there.
Thanks to everyone who's been helping out and making suggestions. If you have anything to add, you can always leave me a note here, or send an e-mail to piper.emily@gmail.com.
Administrator said...
MY FINALE SURPRISE PREDICTION:
Some of them get rescued.
Love this idea!!!
Administrator said... MY FINALE SURPRISE PREDICTION:
Some of them get rescued.
Maybe some get rescued and they try to convince people that there are still survivors on the island. But when they search for the island, they can't find it.
Right, ib4uc... and they have to find out who's behind all this so they can rescue the ones left behind... since the one's who are behind it all are a secret society...
BUT, the trouble is... they can't go to any authorities because some of them are fugitives (ie. Kate)
ib4uc,
I totally think that would be interesting...to see a few people get off the island and then have to fight against The Others and their presence off the island.
Reposted from "the answers" thread...
Administrator said...
fysb said...
And what if the game changer is that they do get rescued, but what they get rescued to is something completely unexpected?
codysmom said...
I was thinking along these lines, too. When Desmond is telling Charlie his vision is of Claire and Aaron in a helicopter, maybe it's not necessarily a rescue helicopter..
That's where my mind's been going all day. What if the copter takes a group to yet another island? Or maybe it crashes on another island. Maybe something related to the 4-toed statue? While it would be very interesting to see our survivors re-enter into the "real world" knowing what they now know, and being changed by their experiences, I don't think they can leave (at least not until the series is over). There are too many storylines anchored to this island...pregnancies, smokey, and Jacob cannot be abandoned. Plus Locke, Rose, and others may refuse to leave even if given the option.
What if only a few make it back to the mainland. We retain island adventures but we also get to see someone face the challenge of initiating rescue from the outside. The web of Mittlelos, Hanso, etc. preventing them from taking any action...the enormous roadblocks related to re-finding the island...dealing with unfinished business from their past (Something like Claire facing murder charges for killing her mom - possibly under the manipulative hand of Mittelos, etc).
I don't know if it would happen but it would add a very interesting dimension to the show...and it would be a surprising twist.
5/18/2007 01:18:00 PM
admin: Some of them get rescued.
ib4uc: I like that idea about locating the rest of them but they can't.
I think some don't want to be rescued. Scenario: some get rescued and we follow their lives into the real world, where they have after effects of sorts from the island (mental, physical, and phychological/precognitive).
Don't forget, from what Naomi and Cooper have said, the Losties are dead in the eyes of the world, so that might be an interesting story development.
Some stay the island (Ben, Locke, Jacob(?, Kate-the fugitive)) and their story line will be followed there as well.
Maybe the real world is where we will pick up with Walt and Michael. The return of Vincent to his master..or Michael and Walt are the Losties guides to reintegration into the world. Also maybe we get to see what happens when someone impregnated on the island (Sun and/or Kate) makes it off.
capcom said:
And wow, to whomever said in the last thread about expecting Charlie to pop up inside the LG, out in The World somewhere, that was an awesome thought! That would have been so radical, like he could have popped up in a pond somewhere in Portland! :-O
Hey capcom
amused2behere was the first who said that TLG is a doorway to the outside world and I agreed with her/him. I was the one who said when watching Greatest Hits I thought Charlie would come up in the outside world but was to cowardly to say it cause someone on the Fuselage got flamed for the same idea. Although I know you guys woould never do that. I thought that since everyone over there thought it was a stupid idea maybe they were right. So I gave kudos to amused2behere for having the courage to say it first.
amused2behere said:
I really do believe that we will find out TLG is a doorway to the real world.(I said it first!) Maybe like the Stargate, but maybe more like the Wardrobe in Narnia. I still think they are on the same Earth as we, maybe Time is different somehow...we'll see on Wednesday.
So saying that, my finale surpise prediction is that Charlie is in the outside world or finds out how to get there. Either that or Desmond dies saving Charlie.
Ange & Admin (David)... if those things don't happen you guys could write your own show!! I'd watch it (can I help write it:)
When Desmond told Charlie he had to die to save Claire I imediately thought that he doesn't have his flash just right that she may get on a helicopter but it wouldn't be a rescue. Then Charlie would die for no reason.
Wouldn't it be a kicker if the ones who want to stay on the Island (Locke, Rose, ?) are the ones who get rescued? Then they'd have double the motivation to find the island again... Could also work if couples are separated (Claire/Charlie, Kate/Sawyer/Jack, Rose/Bernard)
Bye all I'm off to watch some non Lost TV and visit som non Lost websites until Sunday when I'll be back here gibbering like an idiot after the spectacular and mind altering conclusion.
Either that or I'll be grumpy and fed up because it was a bit of a let down, and talking about leaping man eating fish.
Well, it was fun going off on that tangent....
I'm getting excited about tomorrow!!!
Another surprise ending I'd like to see:
THEY FIND AN UNDERGROUND OR UNDERWATER CITY
zort70 said...
Either that or I'll be grumpy and fed up because it was a bit of a let down, and talking about leaping man eating fish.
I hope it's not a let-down!!!!
Sayid'sgirl said... When Desmond told Charlie he had to die to save Claire I imediately thought that he doesn't have his flash just right that she may get on a helicopter but it wouldn't be a rescue. Then Charlie would die for no reason.
OMG!
Naomi's helicopters come to rescue them, oh, but we can only take the women and children first. Then they show the helicopters land...at Ben's camp!
They totally need to hire us to write the next season :D.
And then jack cried about it.
that recap is great.
It would like to see Hurley do somehting physical. start a fight, shoot a gun or find out how smokey killed Eko.
BTW, The LOST mobile game is available for iPods on iTunes now.
I just bought it for my phone :)
Has anyone played it yet? The Lostpedia page doesn't have any details about it.
Dennis, that is an evil and totally Ben-like prediction!
I figure if there is a helicopter it will be some sort of roof of the embassy in Saigon sort of thing. Who's in the mood for research. What kind of helicopters can fit on a freighter? How many people can they hold?
Dennis...
Good thought. Wouldn't we be frustrated by that thought? Another Ben con...I don't think that's enough of a "game changer"
dennis said... Naomi's helicopters come to rescue them, oh, but we can only take the women and children first. Then they show the helicopters land...at Ben's camp!
That would so totally suck for them!
memphish said:
I figure if there is a helicopter it will be some sort of roof of the embassy in Saigon sort of thing.
I don't have to research I grew up in the 70's. That was tragic.
What about this - Penny came to save Des, right? So maybe Penny and Des are the only two that get away from the island. Then we could follow the Losties, and Des, as he tries to rescue them.
listening now BBL
Memphish,
Thanx for the recap link, tha was toooooooo funny.
Well I didn't do anything this week, because I didn't know that there would be a regular Podcast as well. Not much to say anyway, it was just a good leader episode. Not a filler.
Dennis said...
Biggest shocking moment of the finale:
Jacob is dead, and the island lets you see dead people. That's why Locke had to kill his father, so he could see dead people too.
Are you saying that Locke had to kill his father in order to have a personal connection to the island spirit world?
The Looking Glass can't be a portal like the Stargate, because If it is, when Locke blows it up it will start a chain reaction with the Naquada in the gate and the whole solar system will explode.... LOL
DarkAngel,
According to Locke in Season 1 DriveShaft had two albums, and Charlie made a solo Album, that Locke said was better than Oil Change. I think that is DriveShafts second album.
Also Sayid found the Cable for the first time in Episode Nine of Season One.
Well another good podcast. I too am already reading WatershipDown, so please leave that as the first book.
Until Next Time...
Ded
I keep thinking about what Ben said to Michael, "follow that exact heading and you will find rescue. Ben measures his words very carefully since most of his lies are half-truths or technical truths based on semantics. I keep thinking that Michael and Walt found a "rescue" of sorts, but not the real rescue they were looking for.
I don't know where he sent them, or who was waiting for them at that heading, maybe it's Naomi's freighter?
Is Charlie going to meet up with Michael? Or a grown Walt?
I just wonder if Ben's words to Michael will be explained in the finale tomorrow night, or ever for that matter.
As far as the whole "some people get rescued; some don't" I could see a helicopter arriving, taking a few survivors (Claire & Aaron included), but not being able to find its way back once it has left...
Heck, I dunno. I kinda hope we're all wrong and whatever happens takes us completely by surprise
Why does Juliet apologize to Sun for lying to her? Is it that she lied about going back into the station to tidy up which was my first read of the scene or was it about the DOC or something else?
I think it has to do with the "Why are you doing this?" question Sun asked:
SUN: Why are you doing this?
JULIET: What?
SUN: Helping me.
JULIET: [Pauses] Once upon a time, I told women that they were pregnant and their faces, it was the best news they ever got in their entire life. Then I came here. I've lost, nine, patients in the last three years. I'm helping you because I want to tell you that you and your husband got pregnant before you came here. I'm helping you because I wanna give good news again.
JULIET: Oh, and because Ben is forcing me to. :)
Will we see Locke in the Finale?
My guess, don't think so, but if he does show up it will be at the very end.
And he will have acquired some very interesting abilities....
I like all the talk about some get rescued, some don't and some don't want to leave. We have to stay connected to the island (which is the main character on the show IMHO), and if we follow everyone in the "real world" after rescue we're talking going really soap opera-y. There are just too many questions unanswered on the island if everyone gets rescued and leaves.
I sincerely hope that this finale has not been overhyped in our minds! It has a lot to live up to!
hi-dy hooo...
I borrowed this from Gitsie Girl who posts great recaps on her website.
24. What if Jack has the *sickness?* He looks terrible. He seems to be unstable. Danielle never did fully explain what the sickness was, only that her mates got it and she had to kill them. Will Jack’s fate be the same?
That would be a neat way to re-introduce the sickness which has been absent for a very long time!
for those of you who have seen "Dead Alive"..........."he's got the BITE!!!!!!!"
hahahaha......oh man.....
**wipes tear from eyes**
MY FINALE SURPRISE PREDICTION:
I had to skip down because I am running out of time, so I'm sorry if someone already threw this idea out there.
What if rescue shows up (i.e. Penny), but something happens that makes the Losties decide/have to stay, BUT they tell the rescuers to come back in a certain ammount of time. This would explain both the snake in the mailbox (we would never expect them all to stay) and explain what the producers meant when they said we would understand why the show could only go 48 more episodes. 48 episodes from now, rescue would come, "on schedule."
Melissa_Lossa, can you please post your email again for the book club. I tried to go back and find it with no luck. Thanks.
Also, Dennis/Admin/Thrasher :) is there some place we could put the master list of birthdays and the book club reading list and put a link to the front page? I tried searching various past links with very little payoff. Thanks.
Memphish: I found Melissa_lossa's email...piper.emily@gmail.com.
Great idea to post the Book list and birthday list somewhere on the front page (or at least a link) so everyone can access them easily. (BTW: We can put Jacob's list there, too! J/K)
lucky: Not to criticize, but I would find "Ah, we're a wee bit busy with the Others right now. Could ya come back in a month or two?" kind of a let-down. And not really a game-changer.
My finale prediction -
Claire and Aaron are taken away in ahelicopter but it's not a rescue. They are taken to the same place they are keeping Michael and Walt (and maybe the children?)
Oh, and John Locke will blow up TLG because he finds out that it's the portal to/from the island.
Oh Amused,
Fotgot to mention, I have School tomorrow so I will probably not see it Live. Unless I could really breeze through my Mid-Term.
So no can do on the viewing party idea. Sorry.
Stupid School.
I don't know about you guys, but I think I have the sickness. Every now and then since the first season of LOST I have found my self not paying attention and writeing out the numbers.
Then I started writeing them in patterns. This is the most recent pattern that I seem to draw subconciously.
I re-made it in Illustrator though.
New Avi -------------->>>>
Hey everyone! Been a long time but wanted to touch base with everyone!
Ready to jump out of my own skin waiting for tomorrow night!
Hey Team Lena! Welcome home! Stick around for this summer's book club.
TRUE CONFESSIONS:
I woke up this morning and put on a plain royal blue t-shirt (like Jack will be wearing tonight) and my Oceanice Airlines hat. I have officially gotten dressed based on my excitement about the finale.
Way to go, Admin! I really hope it lives up to our excitement!
Happy Lost Day, everyone!
Happy (or Bittersweet) LOST Finale Day LoCos! Just over 12 hours to go, or less if you plan to watch The Answers and live in the Eastern U.S.
That's funny Admin, but I'm right there with you. I'm wearing my Numbers t-shirt today, and I wore my blue Jay and Jack t-shirt yesterday.
Here's your Wednesday Morning Doc Jensen. It appears to be spoiler-free and includes a special J. Wood appearance. P.S. I don't like EW's new pagination.
BBL with a list of questions for your spoiler-free predictions.
Happy Lost Day! And, yes memphish, it is bittersweet.
Has anyone seen a shot of TLG logo that confirms the thing on the rabbit's neck is a watch?
If that is a watch, it looks like the time is 8:15. Here is a screencap.
memphish... that's wild. I thought it was like a bullet hole but from that picture, there's definately something in the middle of the hole.
ib4uc, Of course, the White Rabbit in Alice in Wonderland has a pocket watch (at least in the Disney version). He was always late though. Lateness and scientific research don't seem to add up, but watches, Lost Time, Aerhart, entrances to screwy worlds--I'm betting it is a watch especially since it seems to indicate 2 of the Numbers!
One of my screwy finale predictions would be that one of the Numbers is changed. Don't know how, when, but then we'd have to rewatch all 3 seasons looking for the new number. :)
There's an article in the USA Today with info. about the episode, so you can check it out or avoid like the plague. WARNING -- the headline gives a point away though not a big shocker.
Happy Lost Finale Day LoCos!!!!
Hey memphish I'm wearing my numbers shirt too! Are we a hopeless group of people or what :)
Do you ever get people asking what the numbers are for? This morning at the grocery the check out girl asked and I told her it was from the tv show Lost and she said I thought they were lottery numbers. So I said in a way they are and explained. I asked her if she ever watchd Lost and she said yeah but I got bored. My mind was screaming bored what's wrong with you.
That's an interesting pic of the dharma logo. There's is something in there that looks like watch hands but I can't see any numbers.
Boy you're busy this morning aren't you miss links o lot. :)
Yes Sayid's Girl -- Summer officially started for me today. Yesterday was the last day of school for us. I slept in all the way to 7 am. :) And now I'm avoiding the stuff I need to get done in the name of summer.
That's great! This Friday would have been the last day for us but they have to go to the end of the month now to make up snow days.
I know what you mean about sleeping in all the way to 7:00 am.
Celebrate summer as much as you can today! Me I'm on my way out to weed my flowers :) Believe it or not I enjoy that.
Good Morning LoCos!
Happy LOST finale day!
It's nice that we get Monday off for LOST finale day :)
memphish said... Dennis/Admin/Thrasher :) is there some place we could put the master list of birthdays and the book club reading list and put a link to the front page? I tried searching various past links with very little payoff. Thanks.
I emailed Admin / David recently about the book club but I haven't heard back yet... although he has been here...
It's not up to me, but I was thinking it would be better to have a seperate blog for the book club, like TheLostBookClub.com, or TheLostCommunityBookClub.com or something like that. We do that already with TSOL, and TLEC. Then you are not mixing show posts with book posts, and we can change the front page "theme" to a book club theme.
If we keep all the posts here, when the show starts in 33 weeks, the book club will "disappear" when we change the front page back into "show" mode.
As for the birthdays, I'll put something in the "Links" section of the front page ASAP. Let me know if there is anyone missing on the list.
Speaking of Birthdays
I copied the list Dennis posted awhile back. Just checked it and today is Kristy's birthday. Happy Biirthday Kristy!!! Tonight's a great birthday present for you.
Happy Birthday Kristy!
BTW, Here is the most current TLC birthday list.
Happy Birthday Kristy!
And thanks Dennis.
Thanks Memphish, that season 3 recap was the best thing ever! Still can't stop laughing!
Happy Bittersweet Lost Finale day
loCos.....the anticipation is killing me!
Question for the blog: Juliet knows that there is some force that prevents boats from leaving the Island's orbit. She says in The Glass Ballerina: So they have a boat. Sailing in circles will keep them busy. So why doesn't she tell the LOSTies about this? And what does she think is the cause of this perpetual circling? Has anyone got any ideas about how/why a boat will always be pulled back into the Island, but a helicopter could leave the Island's pull? What is it that you think the LOSTies are thinking, that using Naomi's sat phone will bring another helicopter or the actual ship?
I think juliet knows alot about the island she's not sharing and I don't trust her at all. If she turns out to be a good guy that will be the biggest finale surprise for me.
I have no idea what causes this other than the magneic forces if the island. Maybe the others are doing something to cause this like they are jamming the signals off the island. Since the helicopter crashed I'm not so sure it could leave the islands pull. If they can get a signal to Naomi's ship I don't think they care what comes to get them as long as they get off the island.
memphish said...but a helicopter could leave the Island's pull
Why do we think that? We know whoever sent Naomi thinks that perhaps a helicopter is the way to go, but we really have no proof that there is any specific way off of the island but the sub...right?
Also, I am so nervous for tonight, and also say about the HUGE BIG LONG break...and I am going to wear my Alvar's Angels tee-shirt :D. Happy Lost Day!
SEASON FINALE SURPRISE PREDICTION:
Naomi's freighter gets pulled into the island's tractor beam, and crashes onto the island. The only people on the ship that survive are hot women, and hunky guys with no shirts (for the ladies :)
Hey Dennis I compared your present list with the one you posted awhile back and there were three people on the old one not on the new one.
cam794 March 24
experimentalfilm September 12
diggetydirge November 20
Memphish: I think it probably has more to do with the electromagnetism messing with compasses than any "tractor beam"-type force. I do wonder whether a helicopter (if it comes) would be bale to find its way back once it leaves.
By the way, are any other Veronica Mars fans out there? The season/series finale episodes last night were great. My co-blogger Dave (who also writes for dvdverdict.com) and I recorded a V-Mars postmortem podcast (which can be found here). We're gonna be doing a Lost roundtable podcast tonight, also for dvdverdict.com. I'll let you guys know when it's up!
Happy/Sad Lost Day Everyone!
I like it Dennis! Any casting suggestions?
LOSTIT: THANK YOU!!!!
i've been screaming since the day it happened that walt and michael did NOT "get away"!!!!
listen to me people.
I'm "Nostra-Dan-us".
i'll do it, memphish......*sigh*....if i must. hahahaha
Dennis,
The email I sent to you got sent back to me. I'll go ahead and post it here so others can add input...
Erich, I kind of think that too about the compass bearing, but it seems like drunk Desmond would have given up on the compass at some point and been able to drift out to sea rather than back into the Island.
It seems like any helicopter that tried to land would crash like Naomi's did though I guess a better pilot might be able to land despite spinning instruments. Naomi says: The instruments started spinning. I realized I was going down, so I grabbed my chute and I bailed. Spinning instruments does not equal crashing necessarily, does it?
The captain will be played by Rodrigo Santoro, and we will find out that he was Paulo's identical twin brother. It would have been the greatest crossing ever, if us fans hadn't killed Nikki & Paulo :)
Happy Lost Finale eve loco's and Happy birthday Kristy... wherever you are... lol
So not much to say. I don't have anything LOST related to wear that I havn't made myself so I am wearing my
"Guns don't kill people, Micheal kills people." shirt.
I have a math mid-term tonight that I am going to rip through so I can get home in time to watch... I hope.
Dennis,
Admin did answer your Book/Blog question in the last thread. Take a look for yourself.
C-ya later
Dennis,
I understand your idea about keeping the TLC "time capsule" factor. Our pattern thus far has been to not make exceptions about posting extra information unless it is for an Episode or a Podcast. I like posting about the Episodes & Podcasts ONLY because they are consistent and the community knows what to expect and they can stay focused. It's neat and tidy that way.
I guess I feel willing to make an exception for the book club b/c it will be organized and consistent. It fits our pattern.
At the end of the day, TLEC remains as a tribute to the whole experience of TLE. The comments mattered but thousands of people came to TLEC strictly to keep up with the content of the posts (to keep up with the clues). I think that, when all is said and done, TLC will stand not as a tribute to the show Lost, but as a tribute to the Community that it fostered. Nobody comes to TLC for the content of the posts (We really post nothing with the exception of podcasts), they come for the Community. I was thinking that hosting an "off season" book club would highlight the community aspect of the blog and provide some continuity during the 7 month hiatus.
memphish: no it doesn't. however, she simply said that's what she saw happening and she knew she was "going down". it does NOT mean that the instruments were "just spinning".
but being a prior marine in the aviation field, spinning instruments usually tell you you're losing fuel, in an area where MAGNETISM is throwing your compass way off or that you're "going down".
with THIS island, it could be any number of those. so yeah....bailing is a prime choice.
RE: Book List & Birthday List on front page.
Not a problem...I will take care of that next week after the finale discussions have died down.
I've already got the new book club banner done too!
and here's a wacky thought. what if Naomi really died, too???
that could be my "prediction". naomi is dead, as well. or died.
eh.
Hey chucklez3
I've never thought Michael and Walt got away either. I've just never posted it here.
DeDJeZTeR said... Dennis, Admin did answer your Book/Blog question in the last thread. Take a look for yourself. C-ya later
Yes, I saw that, and had emailed him something else.
But thanks, Karl :)
Sayid'sgirl said... Hey Dennis I compared your present list with the one you posted awhile back and there were three people on the old one not on the new one.
• cam794 March 24
• experimentalfilm September 12
• diggetydirge November 20
I added them to the list, and the link is up on the front page.
yeah, i said it a lot of times on the blog. some people have "argued" that point, but i don't buy it. it makes no sense to let them go. that's actually why i thought the idea of a THIRD island was possible. eh.
Happy Lost Day!!! (and happy birthday, Kristy!)
memphish said...
Has anyone got any ideas about how/why a boat will always be pulled back into the Island, but a helicopter could leave the Island's pull?
The only thing that really makes sense to me is if the island has only one way in/out ("follow a heading of 325" like Ben told Michael-tho Ben always lies). I found this on Wikipedia atlantis
I'm not saying it's Atlantis, just that this configuration makes sense to me...
thanks for the Doc Jensen link
Juliet is holding back info.... she's a LIAR
Maybe the THIRD island is Purgatory, and that's where Jacob is.
So technically, Lost island is not Purgatory, but it is near by.
Love the recap! Thanks!
As for Walt and Micheal getting away, I've thought that could go either way, but because they haven't shown back up again, TPTB have to give some explanation for what happened to them/where they went.
Darn, link didn't work... here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Atlantis_picture.jpg
dennis, what am I doing wrong (using TLC helper)
Juliet is on the View RIGHT NOW
dennis: see....that's what i've been saying. that the SHOW isn't purgatory, but that purgatory plays a PART of the story!!
Elizabeth Mitchel's husband is a stand-up comic:)
my top 5 theories i have (unless i'm missing one). my brain is like oatmeal, today.
1. they were brought to the island purposely (accident was well........an accident).
2. purgatory is a part of the show (to what extent, not sure)
3. There's a third island.
4. Michael and Walt did NOT get away.
5. Naomi died. (this one will only apply if purgatory is part of it)
Codysmom said... Darn, link didn't work... here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Atlantis_picture.jpg
dennis, what am I doing wrong (using TLC helper)
I'm not sure, that link worked fine for me.
BTW, you can test the links in the right side, and it should open up in a new window.
I'll make a change in the next version, so you can see what the link is when you hover over it.
thanks, dennis
Codysmom,
It looks like maybe you put the < a href =""> stuff in the link box? You only need to put the URL, and it will put the other stuff.
The writers chose their words very carefully. Follow this heading and you'll find rescue. Rescue can mean alot of things, but I don't think it means they made it back to the outside world. J K Rowling does this too in her books (I'm a Harry Potter fan) and Carlton and Damon compare Lost to Harry Potter alot usually when talking about their story having a begining middle and end but I've noticed the writers use wording like she does to lead you a certain way. Like Harry is suppose to vanquish the Dark Lord which everyone thinks means kill but it doesn't. Sorry I went a little off topic there. I'm looking forward to Harry's finale too.
So we have Chucklez predictions. LOL about Naomi being dead too.
What about more predictions from everyone else--spoiler-free of course. Deaths? I'm expecting some, but can't name anyone except Juliet and rando Others or Beachies that I would want to die.
A lot of people think Bernard is a goner which would be the official end of the Tail Section people who reached the Fusie beach. That would be very sad. The saddest to me would be if Jin died. I don't think he will though because it seems like he's got at least one FB left in him. We've never seen Sayid's daddy issues either. So I predict they will survive perhaps given a reprieve by Alpert's Others.
Thanks for all the birthday wishes! Can't wait for my finale "present".
Morning LAST LOST DAY FOR A LONG, LONG TIME! :(
Happy Birthday, Kristy! What a present you're getting!
Trying desparately to stay away from spoilers today...it's going to be very difficult and tempting!
I'm also in the camp that Walt and Michael never got anywhere. We'll be seeing them next season (maybe a different, older Michael. LOL)
I sincerely hope this finale lives up to all of our anticipation and all the hype out there!
Dennis: Thanks for keeping up the Birthday list and posting the link.
It really confirms that we're a great Lost Community! Yea, LOCOS!
sayid's girl: the producers didn't choose those words, the writers did. but aside from that, the character, BEN said it. and we all know Ben can be trusted, right? pfft......yeah. sure.
again, it would NOT benefit Ben to "let them go". didn't happen. and it's virtually impossible for that little boat to make it ANYWHERE with that small engine.
anyhoo....
gotta go. getting ready for my bus ride to jacksonville. later, everyone!!!
chucklez3... enjoy your time with your daughters!
thanks ib4uc.
ok, dennis, I think I've got it..
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memphis wants more predictions:
just guessing, of course....
• Walt is Jacob
• Those two girls in TLG are Naomi's friends
• Juliet dies
• there is a third island (just for you, chucklez)
• a helicopter arrives and Ben gets in it with Jack, Sun, Claire, & Aaron
• Locke is alive and shows up in the sub in TLG moon pool
Yes, chucklez3, enjoy being with your daughters..
Mornin' All! I can't believe this is the last Lost Day for a looooong time.
sadness.
Ded, good luck on your exam tonight. I hope you get home in time to watch the finale.
Elizabeth Mitchell was on the View, and she showed a "sneak peek" that was not spoilery. We already know the basic situation of tonight's episode, and this had no new info just some conversation between Jack and Juliet (be careful out there, you too ok?). Duh.
Happy Birthday Kristy!!!
Oh and by the way, Dedjezter, I am taping the finale so if you miss it send me an email and I'll loan you the tape, or you can come over and watch it when Chucklez comes over next week (when he gets home from visiting his kids in FL).
My email is available through my profile...
Hi All, and cheers and condolences to us all on tonight's big/last episode of 2007.
Thanks Memphish for the link to the large cap of the bunny logo. It looks like the hands of a clock at the settings of 8:15 to me.
yo, me and dedjezter in the same place at the same time???? won't that cause a rift in space?? hahahaha.
good luck on the exam, ded......ummm..sorry, i didn't catch what it was for.
amused: see you soon. and yeah, that'd be great if the jezter and the chucklez were in the same place. weird.
BTW, has anyone found or figured out from caps what the tiny word is underneath the rabbit? Sorry if this was already posted.
And no fair saying that it says, "What's up doc?"! :o)
So am I the only one somewhat nervous about the finale? I really want to be blown away by the game-changer, but what if I'm not? I'm somewhat afraid that it's been so hyped up it can't possibly be that good.
My game-changer prediction (which is of course wrong, as I think most other predictions have been for this episode): A new island/underground island/geographical location, combined with a countdown- and this time, the fate of the world really *is* at stake- no more mind games.
Also, I really don't want Sayid to die. Please live, Sayid/Bernard/Jin!
Hey guys, I'm dropping in now to say that I've been kinda out of the loop for this season (meaning I haven't really had time to post anything on here) but, today is my first day of summer! So, I hope to be really involved from now on out.
That is of course, if there is a TLE 2.
chucklez3
Sweetie go take another look at my post I did say the writers chose those words. I only said the producers compared Lost to J K Rowling's books and how they had a begining middle and end like Lost's story and that the Lost writers chose their words carefully like she does. I was referring to what Ben said as being leading and not the truth. That the heading leading to rescue could mean anything and not neccessarily getting to the outside world. However there are a few people who feel they did make it to the outside world. Which is why you have to be aware of the wording. Hopes this clears up my previous post for you. If not ah well.
I'm with you Ded. I'm not really registering the boobytapped mailbox, or earthshaking promo hype, into my brain. The end of seasons 1 and 2 were both game changers for the Lost as we knew it at those times, so I'm just going with "Whatever, but I hope it's crazy-good", in my head.
Your guess would be really great! But I hope that TPTB don't dig themselves in too much deeper. But, the mysteries of the statue and where the Hostiles came from really do beg for more layers to be added to the story. Well actually, those layers have already been added merely by the existance of those things, but now these empty layers need to be filled in with some story facts.
But I really do hope that we get some interesting and freaky info on the LG tonight! I can wait until next season for statue-story, if they give us some juicy junk about the LG and what the wabbit logo means. Hmmm, I wonder if there will be someone working on the LG who's name is Elmer?! Then we could spend the summer waxing on about the philosophical ramifications of Elmer Fudd in our bookclub! :o)
Well put, Sayidsgirl. :-)
Michael Emerson was on the Bob & Sheri radio show this morning.
You can download the podcast here
The interview starts at 23:30 and runs about 7 minutes.
Not really any specific spoilers, but they talk about purgatory and limbo.
Thanks capcom
darkaardvark
I really like your game changer prediction and I'm with you please don't die Sayid and of course Bernard and Jin. At this point if any lostie died I'd miss them. Maybe we'll all get our wish and Juliet will get it. :)
Chucklez3
Enjoy you time with your girls.
My prediction: that there actually is no Jacob, that Ben is developed psychic powers as a result of being neglected as a child.
Also: I think something won't happen that has to happen in order for our Losties to get rescued. Charlie may possibly fail at trying to push the button, flip the switch or whatever it is he has to do.
memphish
I like your avatar. Maybe the Looking Glass is from Jefferson Starship's White Rabbit. ;)
UH OH... Blogger is having trouble now :(
chucklez3 said... sayid's girl: the producers didn't choose those words, the writers did. but aside from that, the character, BEN said it. and we all know Ben can be trusted, right? pfft......yeah. sure.
Not to nitpick, but the producers ARE writers. Producer, Executive Producer, etc are writer titles, like ranks in the military. Damon & Carlton went through the whole hierarchy on one of the podcasts.
capcom said... BTW, has anyone found or figured out from caps what the tiny word is underneath the rabbit? Sorry if this was already posted. And no fair saying that it says, "What's up doc?"! :o)
It's "Dharma". That's standard protocol for Dharma Logos where Dharma isn't in the middle - they put it it at the top of the bottom triangle thingy.
Blogger being down tonight would not be good!
Crossfade, I'll try this again. Do you think Locke could hear "Jacob" because he was also a neglected child? Was he really hearing Ben? And if so, what about the screencaps of the guy in the chair.
Yay you're back! I was getting withdrawl symptoms. :)
Can I have a link to those screencaps? I haven't seen 'em. (Forgive me if my predicting that Ben and Jacob are one and the same if it's completely unfounded. I'm kinda jumping in here after a long lull of not contributing)
You're right Dennis they are writers too. Don't know who wrote that particular episode. Doesn't really matter they are all careful how they write it.
Tx Dennis, I saw that now on other cap pix. In the one that I was looking at, it didn't look like the letters matched the standard all caps Dharma shapes. It looked as if there was a taller letter in the middle. Dang squirrelly pixels. :-)
Oops, I replied to Ded above, and it should have been Darkaardvark, sorry.
You're right Memphish, let's hope that we don't break the blogger either tonight! :-O
Crossfade Here's Jacob!.
Memphish, you sent me a link to names to call your pet reptile.
BTW, has anyone anywhere hypothesized on whether or not the 8:15 on the rabbit logo has any relation to Flight 815? Or is it just another random usage of some of the numbers? Any talk on The Fuselage Memphish? Just wondering.
Wow, that blows my prediction into a million pieces. Does anybody else think he looks a little like Mr. Friendly?
Sorry Crossfade. Too much going on today. Thanks Dennis.
Thanks Dennis those are a little strange, but good.
All I have to say about the Finale is this...
It can't be any worse than Heroes Finale was. All that build up to SUCK OUT LOUD. It stunk, and I don't know if they can possibly pull me back in to that show without a serious overhall.
Go Cuseloff, The only two guys in hollywood who can write a cliffhanger that doesn't make me want to pull a Kurt Cobain.
Hey Ded, I was a little bit underwhelmed myself, but I thought that it was just me. >SPOILER ALERT< And are we supposed to believe that "_____________" has come back as a giant cockroach now?
Good catch on the rabbit's watch.
Here's a prediction I'm toying with. I'm not sure if it will be this finale or later in the series, but I think Alex will kill Ben.
That would certainly bring Ben full-circle Twinkle.
Doc Jensen has posted a feature at EW.com on his Top 10 Favorite Moments of Season 3. It's spoiler-free LOST content.
Hey, Crossfade...so good to see you here again! Yea, summer vacation!
I"m prepared to be "shocked and awed" tonight! Hope the finale lives up to all the hype, press interviews, internet chat, etc. LOST can never disappoint me! LOL
For anyone that hasn't listened to the Michael Emerson interview I posted earlier, I have edited out all the other stuff, and put it up on YouTube.
Michael Emerson Interview on Bob & Sheri
SEASON FINALE SURPRISE PREDICTION:
Jack says "I love you"... to Juliet!
(or Tom :)
Maven: Me too! Shock and awe!
Thanks, Dennis for all the work you do here!
Memphish: Based on the look on Ben's face when he talks to Alex, I don't think he'd really mind if she killed him either. :-(
Happy Lost Finale Day Loco's
Dennis; My B-day,Nov. 16
Great to hear from DA.
dennis... I was kinda thinking the same thing. We all assume it's Kate he says "I love you" to but whoa, what if it is Tom (or Sawyer or any other male) he says it to? That would definately be a game-changer.
Yeah, I don't think Jack says I love you to Kate. I think that's just the promo department trying to keep the Jate alive. I'm even willing to bed that the I love you is in a Flashback.
Maybe Jack says I love you to Hurley like Charlie did last week. I cried again when I saw that in The Answers. Less than 5 hours and in less than 2 I'll be busy doing something away from my computer until showtime! I doubt I'll be able to shut down the LOST part of my brain though.
memphish... the promo dept always has a way of making things appear that aren't really. So it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't say it to Kate, but I'm going with him saying it to her.
Can you imagine how many comments are going to be posted by the time I get to them tomorrow morning? Maybe I'll call in sick so I can catch up.
LOL ib4uc. That's why I've been doing the "yeah, it's summer and I can stay up all night and all tomorrow on the internet" dance. I've told my son he can't use the computer until Friday. :)
WOW. The ratings last week were not what I expected. I thought they would be much higher.
LOST ratings for May 14—20
#18 Overall, 12.3 million
#10 with 18-49-year-olds, 6.8 million
Note: Be very careful if you go to the USA Today site. There are no spoilers in my link, but I ran into a spoiler when I was looking for the ratings page.
Afternoon LoCo's! Don't have enough time to catch up on all the comments from this week, but just wanted to say Happy LOST Finale Day!
I'll be glad when this week is finished, it's the kids last week of school and I'm pooped. It's been an emotional day too- It's my son's (who has autism) last day of preschool. He starts kindergarten next year in a completely mainstreamed class with typical kids. So today has been very bittersweet.
Hope to catch up through the day and be back on tonite after the show.
@capcom: (heroes spoilers)
I don't think so. There was a cockroach crawling next to ______ before and people thought that was him, but it wasn't. I think they like the recurring cockroach theme because of what it has to do with evolution and how cockroaches are more evolved than humans (from Mohinder's lecture in the pilot)
I'm so tired of Mohinder's lectures. The opening of the Heroes finale was a worthless 5 minutes. Did they think we were tuning in for the first time that night? I'm betting Mrs. Petrelli is the Sauron that can see Molly.
I was just thinking... I have a feeling that in the promo, when Jack says "I'm getting them off of this island... ALL of them!" that he's saying that to Locke. That could be their showdown.
interesting, Luckyguy.....
can't wait for tonight.....
Great avatar Codysmom. How did you make that?
luckkyguylikeme
That's a great thought. I like it.
codysmom
I agree cool avatar.
I don't normally post but I have been thinking about a theory for a while. I think that the Islnad is just slightly off from our dimension. I think the looking Glass is the place where the two dimensions meet in a time warp or something. I think that the portal used to open and close whenever jacob wanted it to but it can't now. I think Jacob is stuck between the two dimentions which is whey the portal hasn't closed. And the best part, I think that the young Ben figured some things out and I think he is the one who trapped Jacob between the two worlds to keep the portal open all the time. Just a thought.
Hi all, it's me again. As usual I'll be at the episode late so won't be posting comments here until thursday/friday. But I have posted a new blog with a few things to think about going into the finale.
It's been great to continue the TLEC community here during the season. Will be strange with no series or ARG going on until January!
You never know though, maybe Mittlewerk will rear his ugly head.
Corrected link, sorry about that:
http://lostbullets.blogspot.com/
micah
That's a really interesting theory. It could possibly be something very close to that. I especially like young Ben finding some things and trapping Jacob.
that should be finding out
I was just looking over my Lost magazine again to check on something I thought was said about one of the characters playing a central part in the finale and now I know where everyone was getting the snake in the mail box phrase. Duh!
OMG...it's getting close for you EST people! I'm going to have a zillion comments to catch up at 11pm PST!
I'm with Memphish: I'm sure the "I love you" was spliced by the ABC promo dept. to look like Jack is saying it to Kate to keep the love interest going! She's probably nowhere in the scene when he says it! Who is saying it to could be part of the game changer.
Fenris...will be checking out your new blog post shortly!
Spoiler-free day! Yea!
Glad you like the new avi (I stole it off a post at ABC message boards..)
very interesting, micah
We'll see if I can stay up late enough to talk to you after the show, Maven (I'm EDT)
Maybe Jack is saying I love you to everyone as he leaves in the helicopter...
Thanks, Codysmom! Hope I can stay up, too! LOL It will probably take overnight or so to process the whole finale. Most likely, none of us are going to be sleeping too well tonight!
Your avatar is awesome.
1. I am totally jealous of all of you who are "out" for the summer. I have until the 13th and it is getting HOT.
2. I am so nervous about the show I can't even enjoy the Red Sox.
3. I am officially spoiler free, and NERVOUS, and I still think there is going to be a rescue of some kind. I am not even going to speculate on the "I love you" because they edit the previews so oddly sometimes for all we know Jack says it to Joop.
Excited and waiting!
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